Originally Posted by escorpio

Congratulate your fucking friends for helping cause more deaths in the desert. Big fucking heroes, harrassing desperately poor people.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Thats the funniest thing I ever heard.... THEY are responsible for these people that are knowingly risking their lives while breaking the laws of another country and then die in the desert because they are trying to hide from the law enforcement agents of the country whose laws they are breaking???

You crack me up. I could listen to this all day!!!:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Ohhh, the race card now.

Mexicans are actually among the biggest racists on the planet, and you know it. White people are loathed in the Mexican community.

The only reason there is any respect at all is because they need gringo to get their money to send back to Mexico.

Originally Posted by rants

I immigrated here when I was 11, I came from The Netherlands though (even though I'm not Dutch, I'm asian but I was born in Holland). Anyways, even though I didn't speak English in Holland when I was a kid, for some reason I learned English REALLY REALLY fast.

I don't know if it's exceptional genes or what but I was never in ESL, and after being in America for only 2 MONTHS, I was already in HONORS English. I was one of those really smart people and soon my english was so good that I was doing better than kids who were born here. Some people are just naturally smart.

It doesn't have much to do with the thread but I just wanted to brag how easily I learned English because I never got the chance to brag before!

I don't understand how people can be so retarded and be stuck in ESL for years. After 2 months here I was already in HONORS. And I also got a 4 on my AP exam in history in high school (which was an all written exam), I beat the valedictorian who ended up going to Harvard!!

Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

In that case, then Mexico needs to stop enforcing it's own border entry and immigration laws.

By the way, anyone with Spanish blood needs to leave mexico, since Spain stole it from the Aztecs....

....and come to think of it, the Aztecs got that land by conquering neighboring tribes, so THEY need to give it back to the original small tribes that the Aztecs stole from in the first place.

Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE

Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE

Originally Posted by seven

hey he wanted 1 reason I gave him 2 but you guys still won't accept but just go around beat around the bush then why even bother asking for reasons when your mind is all setup already? And please stop calling me a Jose. I'm not a mexican for God's sakes.

Originally Posted by bringer

im sure all white,black,yellow,blue,purple and red unemployed people in the us would do this job if it didnt pay $2/hour. its easier to exploit people who have no place to turn and make profits then to pay min wage. people who use this argument make it sound like illegals have been doing these jobs forever. im white and ive washed dishes. im white and ive mowed lawns. im white and ive worked in the fields picking oranges. its unfortunate that today these positions are earning less than they were 10 years ago.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

There are plenty actually, in states that don't have as many illegals in them. Hell, even here in Miami, where there are plenty of illegal aliens, there are white and black people working in kitchens of resturants that I know the owners of.

Of course the employers have to pay them the legal minimum at least. As opposed to the illegals, that get paid starvation wages.

Americans are very hard working, look at our productivity, weekly work hours and vacation times compared to the rest of the 1st world countries.

Originally Posted by bringer

im sure all white,black,yellow,blue,purple and red unemployed people in the us would do this job if it didnt pay $2/hour. its easier to exploit people who have no place to turn and make profits then to pay min wage. people who use this argument make it sound like illegals have been doing these jobs forever. im white and ive washed dishes. im white and ive mowed lawns. im white and ive worked in the fields picking oranges. its unfortunate that today these positions are earning less than they were 10 years ago.

Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE

Horseshit? I worked my way through college in restaurants and have not met a single white guy in dishwasher room busting his ass for 7 bucks and hour. Minimum was 4.25 at that time.

Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE

Another bull. My house cleaner is illegal and I pay her 60 bucks a week for 2 hour job. They guy that does the yard gets paid 40 bucks. I knew plenty of illegal and they weren?t getting paid 2 dollars an hour.

Originally Posted by bringer

$2 was an exaggeration. im sure you can find someone legal to clean your house for $30/hour considering my friend whos a nurse doesn't even make that. its also nice to know your gardener is illegal. i hope he walks to your place instead of driving because he doesn't have a drivers license which means he has no insurance.

Originally Posted by Warning Pages

but everyone who is an american citizen came from an illeagal immagrant(somewhere down the line)

Originally Posted by escorpio

What part of "desperate poverty" do you not understand?

Originally Posted by seven

:thumbsup Here are 2. They are our neighbors. 2. we stole land from them in the past

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

If they are about to die of exposure then they only have to turn themselves into the border patrol. They will be fed and given water, any injuries will be treated, etc....

It's their choice, it's not the fault of the minutemen.

Originally Posted by Phoenix

yes here..the average CDn family has 1.2 kids

immigrant families are having 4-5 kids

wash them around for two generations and what do you have left?

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

First of all, did you read my post?? Why won't YOU respond to my points about history?

Secondly I have never called you a "Jose". Are you on drugs?

Originally Posted by Mr. Soul

More Canadians. We're all immigrants, retard.

Originally Posted by escorpio

What if the border patrol isn't around? You think people willingly die in the desert before seeking assistance? Increased patrol pushes desperate crossers into some very inhospitable areas.

Originally Posted by seven

Gotta disagree there bud. I support legalization of existing illegals but not the future illegals. You gotta draw a line. Because increased patrol means more illegal immigrant deaths doesn't mean border security shouldn't be tighter they should. maybe the desparados will then get the point and stop trying.. can't blame u.s. for those illegals committing suicide :(

Originally Posted by escorpio

I support making it easier to gain legal access to working in the U.S. Increased patrols and vigilate harassment is not the answer. Desperate people will always try as long as the legal alternative is expensive and time consuming.

Originally Posted by seven

and nuff with the vigilate harassment cause there's no guidelines for vigils but legal patrol there should be more.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

What absolute crap.... I know people in that group, I was just in Arizona last week, and there are people of all colors helping them. They have no problem with any people of any color that come into the country, and neither do I.

....and they have done a great job in helping the border patrol do their work, and illegal entries in the areas that they are observing are WAY down.

Please show me any credible evidence of what you are saying.

Originally Posted by escorpio

Originally Posted by leggs

Now tell me how many of you people screaming about ilegal immigration form your opinions based on television and talking to the drunk redneck down the street....

who can only complain about how they are taking all your jobs, but he himself has one working at factory earning $20/hour....

Whereas the ilegal mexican comes to this country, and after getting a job that pays $2.00 below min. wage painting the house of the above drunk redneck, goes out and purchases a DVD player, CD player and various other consumer goods manufactured in the drunk redneck's factory. Therefore keeping redneck employed and contributing to the economy....

As you sit in an ally behind your house, drinking 3.2% beer calling all illegal immigrants scum and criminals as you roll up a big fat joint....

And act like you have an education or an opinion that isn't formed from at the base of your rectum?

Originally Posted by psili

Any group that overpopulates and exceeds the carrying capacity of its environment should face the consequences.

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The Minuteman Project is not illegal. Here in the US when our government doesn't step up and do something, we the people handle it ourselves.

Originally Posted by seven

And who decides a group overpopulating or exceeding carrying capacity of its environment? A Pornmonger? :1orglaugh Cos surely the economists are not :winkwink:

Originally Posted by minusonebit

I am not anti-immigrant; I am all for people who want to enter the country legally. My family came over from Spain many years ago. My relatives did it legally. That meant learning English and being a part of the culture. They didn?t sneak over the border in the middle of the night and then run into the streets demanding this, that and the other. Legal immigrants who enter through the proper channels by and large do come here to make society a better place.

Illegal immigrants do not come here to make this country a better place or to contribute to our society. They come here to suck up our resources, housing, handout programs, food and jobs and they ship the fruits of their labor back across the border. Illegal immigrants do not get immunized properly before crossing, this means that they bring disease and sickness with them.

And to fuck with their sad stories. I've got a few of those myself and they don?t entitle me to break the law to fill my needs, wants or desires. I cant just march into Canada or China or Russia or any other country and declare myself a citizen. Why should other people be able to do the same here?

Don?t post a link to a liberal California college and two to a newspaper for religious fruitcakes and tell me that?s why I should let it happen. The liberals have gotten this country into a huge fucking mess with their preaching tolerance and peace and unity bullshit its incredible. And the GOP is equally responsible for the mess because they keep wanting to spend every dime they can get a hold of.

So if you think that they should be allowed to come in here and do whatever they want and we should sit back and let them, well then fuck you because you are not an American and you are the one who doesn?t deserve to be here anymore.

Originally Posted by escorpio

"Violent/ criminal culture"? WTF? The U.S. has one of the most violent and criminal cultures on the planet.

Ask any Canadian.

Or Micheal Moore.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Sorry, but a left-wing wacko BLOG that quotes the SPLC the whole time, (a massive fund raising operation that had promised to run on it's own funds when they reached 60 million dollars and is still harrasing people for money with 120 million in its accounts), doesn't exactly constitute "credible evidence":1orglaugh

If you are interested in the truth, why don't you try going and observing the minutemen doing their thing? They have no problem with people observing.

Originally Posted by Anthony

Doctor Dre is a canadian, and was talking Canada.

This whole immigrant thing is bullshit.

I am an immigrant to the United States, a LEGAL one. My parents brought me over 30 years ago as a child. My parents took the steps to become US citizens, as did MILLIONS of Natrulized Citizens.

Why must we give special treatment to other minorities?

Originally Posted by seven

Just to point out that your "we the people" includes me too :winkwink: Said this before.. stop calling me a 'Jose' just cause I'm not being a hypocrite like yourself. Now, taking laws into our own hands is illegal and punishable by the very law here in this country that we call the U.S. of A :winkwink: