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Old 04-18-2006, 11:38 PM   #101
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Old 04-18-2006, 11:42 PM   #102
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You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You hear some crap on FOX News and run around repeating it like a fucking parrot.

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A senior intelligence officer confirmed that Plame was a Directorate of Operations undercover officer who worked 'alongside' the operations officers who asked her husband to travel to Niger. But he said she did not recommend her husband to undertake the Niger assignment. 'They [the officers who did ask Wilson to check the uranium story] were aware of who she was married to, which is not surprising,' he said.
'There are people elsewhere in government who are trying to make her look like she was the one who was cooking this up, for some reason,' he said. 'I can't figure out what it could be.' 'We paid his [Wilson's] airfare. But to go to Niger is not exactly a benefit. Most people you'd have to pay big bucks to go there,' the senior intelligence official said. (Newsday article "Columnist Blows CIA Agent's Cover," dated July 22, 2003).



Another right wing lie. Please look up facts before you continue spewing out your bullshit. This is right from the article Joe Wilson wrote in the NY Times which brought all this about:

'In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake.'

'After consulting with the State Department's African Affairs Bureau (and through it with Barbro Owens-Kirkpatrick, the United States ambassador to Niger), I agreed to make the trip.'

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Those are some of the releases about the subject but not all of the releases by far and as with most events of any type there are contradicting reports so it is left up to the readers to pick and choose the "truth" and the real "truth" will probably forever remain unknown.
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By the way I do not watch Fox news. It is not my news station of choice and in addition I watch very little TV, news or otherwise other than I do watch most congressional hearings. I prefer the printed media.
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Old 04-18-2006, 11:48 PM   #104
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Those are some of the releases about the subject but not all of the releases by far and as with most events of any type there are contradicting reports so it is left up to the readers to pick and choose the "truth" and the real "truth" will probably forever remain unknown.
WTF are you talking about?? There are other versions of Joe Wilsons article??

Your ability to survive this long is a marvel of nature.
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By the way I do not watch Fox news. It is not my news station of choice and in addition I watch very little TV, news or otherwise other than I do watch most congressional hearings. I prefer the printed media.

Yep, sure buddy. Just like you'll be glad when Bush is out of office.
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Old 04-18-2006, 11:57 PM   #106
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Those are some of the releases about the subject but not all of the releases by far and as with most events of any type there are contradicting reports so it is left up to the readers to pick and choose the "truth" and the real "truth" will probably forever remain unknown.
Honestly, I've been just sitting back and reading your posts and others. You are digging yourself a whole. I'm starting to think you are 18 years old and surfing yahoo for articles and then just copying and pasting words.

Bush is a puppet and his whole administration is full of evil power hungry assholes. Its pretty much that simple. They lie, cheap, steal and manipulate laws to get what they want.

To be honest, I'm completely surprised that no one from our country or another country has not tried to knock him off. One might think with all the billions of dollars that the terrorists have, they might train someone to do just that.
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WTF are you talking about?? There are other versions of Joe Wilsons article??

Your ability to survive this long is a marvel of nature.
Joe Wilson says what he says and others have contradicted his side of the story as well as his wifes side of the story. There has been multiple stories about this event, since and ongoing, and as I said one can pick and choose what the "truth" is but you and I will never know the "real truth".
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Yep, sure buddy. Just like you'll be glad when Bush is out of office.
You are an insulting bastard and I am not into arguing with bastards. The end of the discussion with you from my side.
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Here's my other question. I don't understand how the president is the only person that is allowed to do what he wants. He can manipulate the laws and the constitution as much as he and his administration desires.

How is this possible? Why doesn't he have to follow all the same rules and laws as every other American?
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Honestly, I've been just sitting back and reading your posts and others. You are digging yourself a whole. I'm starting to think you are 18 years old and surfing yahoo for articles and then just copying and pasting words.

Bush is a puppet and his whole administration is full of evil power hungry assholes. Its pretty much that simple. They lie, cheap, steal and manipulate laws to get what they want.

To be honest, I'm completely surprised that no one from our country or another country has not tried to knock him off. One might think with all the billions of dollars that the terrorists have, they might train someone to do just that.
What "whole" would that be? Has it occured to you that the people that serve in the upper echelon of goverment are by nature power hungry and all that seek power are in fact assholes (I am not comfortable with the term evil so I will not use the word). Administrations past and administrations of the future have been and will continue to be pretty much the same.

BTW...I have not copy and pasted anything. My words are my words and my thinking is my thinking as garnered from what I read, what I see and what I hear.

As to my age: I have lived through many administrations and this is the worst one in my opinion but that is not to say that past administrations were much better.

The power of all that are in the current administration will end in 2 1/2 years and the new power structure will begin and the same complaints will be heard from many of the same citizens no matter who takes the reigns of power.
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Here's my other question. I don't understand how the president is the only person that is allowed to do what he wants. He can manipulate the laws and the constitution as much as he and his administration desires.

How is this possible? Why doesn't he have to follow all the same rules and laws as every other American?
The constitution outlines the powers of each of the three branches of government. Any President cannot manipulate the laws or the constitution. But what the Congress cannot do is pass laws that limit the power provided the President by the constitution unless or untill the Supreme Court rules that a Congressional law limiting those powers of the President is in fact constitutional. With the FISA Courts the Congress in fact passed a law that is designed to limit the powers of the President and the President with advice from his legal counsels decided that he did not have to go through the FISA courts as it violates his Constitutional powers so he does not legally have to go to FISA Courts unless or untill the Supreme Court decides that the Congressional law is in fact constitutional. This will probably never happen.
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Joe Wilson says what he says and others have contradicted his side of the story as well as his wifes side of the story.
You are contradicting yourself. You said:

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I proved that to be bullshit and your response is 'others have contradicted his side of the story'.

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You are an insulting bastard and I am not into arguing with bastards. The end of the discussion with you from my side.
Don't blame ya. I usually will stop debating someone when I've been proven wrong.
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To be honest, I'm completely surprised that no one from our country or another country has not tried to knock him off. One might think with all the billions of dollars that the terrorists have, they might train someone to do just that.
BTW. What do you think would be accomplished by "knocking" off the President? It would not improve anything in our country and would damn sure have some serious affects for another country or countries.

Are you privy to the bank accounts of the terrorists? If you are you should report the accounts to the government. If you are not how is it that you the terrorists have billions of dollars?

I have spent way to much time on this board. I have business to attend to. Have a good night.
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To be honest, I'm completely surprised that no one from our country or another country has not tried to knock him off. One might think with all the billions of dollars that the terrorists have, they might train someone to do just that.
Terrorists may have good reason to leave George exactly where he is right now - he doing a reasonable job from their angle

Why you want to waste good terrorism funding training folks to eliminate a prime asset?
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BTW. What do you think would be accomplished by "knocking" off the President? It would not improve anything in our country and would damn sure have some serious affects for another country or countries.

Are you privy to the bank accounts of the terrorists? If you are you should report the accounts to the government. If you are not how is it that you the terrorists have billions of dollars?

I have spent way to much time on this board. I have business to attend to. Have a good night.
I don't think it would accomplish anything. Try reading what I post. I said I'm surprised it hasn't happened. I know it wouldn't accomplish shit. But seeing that the same people that do suicide bombings and kill innocent people are also the same people that pretty much hate Bush and his administration, well, I'm just surprised that none of those radicalists haven't tried anything.

Second, where have you been? Everyone knows that Osama has billions. Thats just one example. Its not a secret that their are plenty of terrorists that have billions of dollars. Hello .. Earth to Sexy Sites ... anyone there?
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Terrorists may have good reason to leave George exactly where he is right now - he doing a reasonable job from their angle

Why you want to waste good terrorism funding training folks to eliminate a prime asset?
That is actually a good point. Bush is doing a great job of fucking up our country. They might hate him but if he's ruining the USA then I guess they are loving it. Didn't think of it like that.
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I don't think it would accomplish anything. Try reading what I post. I said I'm surprised it hasn't happened. I know it wouldn't accomplish shit. But seeing that the same people that do suicide bombings and kill innocent people are also the same people that pretty much hate Bush and his administration, well, I'm just surprised that none of those radicalists haven't tried anything.

Second, where have you been? Everyone knows that Osama has billions. Thats just one example. Its not a secret that their are plenty of terrorists that have billions of dollars. Hello .. Earth to Sexy Sites ... anyone there?
I am not aware of anyone ever saying that Osama has billions. I have heard that originally he may have been worth between two hundred and three hundred million but that these funds have probably been seriously depleted. As to other wealthy terrorists: I am not aware of any. Please name them for me. I have a need to be, at the least, as knowageable as you.
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That is actually a good point. Bush is doing a great job of fucking up our country. They might hate him but if he's ruining the USA then I guess they are loving it. Didn't think of it like that.
Doubt they could get any better than their own agent in the Whitehouse.

That's what I was thinking - screwing the place up on all levels. I never actually paid a lot of attention to whoever was in the Whitehouse - the very first time was 10 days after Bush's election. He appeared on TV for a few minutes and within that time he literally reversed a substantial amount of his election policies. There were a couple of folks in the room and there was silence and disbelief. I thought then, sheesh, the US is gonna get screwed by this guy. And... gradually that's exactly what happened.

I'd hate to see the full extent of the damage by the time he pisses off back to Texas to be a candystore cowboy.
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I am not aware of anyone ever saying that Osama has billions. I have heard that originally he may have been worth between two hundred and three hundred million but that these funds have probably been seriously depleted. As to other wealthy terrorists: I am not aware of any. Please name them for me. I have a need to be, at the least, as knowageable as you.
I'll be sure to put the full list of terrorist names together for ya

And acutally it was Osamas father that had most of the lute to start. His pops was worth a boat load.

So you really don't think that their are terrorists that have billions? Stop and think before you answer that.
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I am not aware of anyone ever saying that Osama has billions. I have heard that originally he may have been worth between two hundred and three hundred million but that these funds have probably been seriously depleted. As to other wealthy terrorists: I am not aware of any. Please name them for me. I have a need to be, at the least, as knowageable as you.
Get a grip on reality for a moment??

Support for Osama has increased far more than existed on 9/11. Recruitment into the Al Queda org was up between 8 and 15 (estimated) fold at the time Bush spewed his "bring em on" cowboy act and there is sure no reason to believe there is any serious depletion in funding. If there is any funding shortage, Al Queda are obviously better at managing/funding their activities than US Treasury is in managing the ecomony.

Anyways... how much does it cost to fill a bag or explosives or fly someone else's plane into a building?

For this, you have the US government to thank for stepping in and playing right into their hands and aiding recruitment around the world.
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I'd hate to see the full extent of the damage by the time he pisses off back to Texas to be a candystore cowboy.
Thats what I'm scared about .. truly. And that is the whole point why I started this thread. Someone ... I mean everyone needs to do a little something to get him out. At least make the rest of the dumb Americans realize whats going on. I just think there are too many lazy complacient people in this country.

We the people need to rise up and stand up for whats right ... period. Whether one does something big or small ... as long as they do something.
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Get a grip on reality for a moment??

Support for Osama has increased far more than existed on 9/11. Recruitment into the Al Queda org was up between 8 and 15 (estimated) fold at the time Bush spewed his "bring em on" cowboy act and there is sure no reason to believe there is any serious depletion in funding. If there is any funding shortage, Al Queda are obviously better at managing/funding their activities than US Treasury is in managing the ecomony.

Anyways... how much does it cost to fill a bag or explosives or fly someone else's plane into a building?

For this, you have the US government to thank for stepping in and playing right into their hands and aiding recruitment around the world.
Its nice to see someone has a brain here
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Thats what I'm scared about .. truly. And that is the whole point why I started this thread. Someone ... I mean everyone needs to do a little something to get him out. At least make the rest of the dumb Americans realize whats going on. I just think there are too many lazy complacient people in this country.

We the people need to rise up and stand up for whats right ... period. Whether one does something big or small ... as long as they do something.
That's really what pisses me off about the current incompetents.

I got a few good US friends and it grinds when ya know what they did on behalf of their govt and they then get pissed on from a great height by dishonorable slimeballs who could not be trusted with 5 cents. These are good people in anyone's language and they sure as hell deserve better.

I'm sure it's happened elsewhere in western countries at times, but the current admin appear to surpass the lot in reaching the depths of the swamp.
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HOWEVER

They were just digging for dirt and kept digging until Clinton fucked up. He answered a question about something that had nothing to do with the case on hand, and answered in a way that defended his marriage more than anything else.

I'm sorry; Perhaps it's because I'm a former Marine but I don't think anyone should be taking pot shots at the office of the President of the United States. The office needs to be respected at all costs, no matter whom or what group is in office.

This was a lie about nothing important. Granted, it was under oath. But he should never have had to answer such questions under oath.

Clinton was impeached in the House, but he was not convicted in the Senate. The reason he was not convicted? Politics.

If you put the Presidential office above the law, at all costs, you wouldn't like the result. The result is a King. We broke away from England to avoid Kings.
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