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lock · 03-07-2006, 12:30 AM

Just wondering what AVS systems are still alive and kicking and if you use one which is your favorite.

BAKO · 03-07-2006, 12:32 AM

They Kick Ass https://www.proadult.com/avs/wmapply.cgi?2577

stev0 · 03-07-2006, 01:03 AM

www.xxxsexticket.com
www.sexkey.com

Zverka · 03-07-2006, 01:53 AM

see sig

Tex Willer · 03-07-2006, 02:58 AM

Cyberage rules

Sarah_Jayne · 03-07-2006, 02:59 AM

Cyberage makes me smile everyday.

lock · 03-07-2006, 03:54 AM

ok still a few around. A lot of AVS sites shut down years ago. Due to credit card processing and laws claiming there was no age verification with a card.
And processing for other sites etc. I used to run an AVS script (verifier) I could probably dig it up if i went thru some old archives. But just looking at options for other sites. Interested in AVS sites that want more than a few galleries or accept larger site. Eg: the old adultcheck gold

XMaster · 03-07-2006, 03:59 AM

Check out www.amazingpass.com

lock · 03-09-2006, 02:12 AM

i will see if i can find an old list of old AVS sites from 90's and see what became what. I remember agecheck becoming cyberage. And avs.com with the official gov warning shutting them down.

baddog · 03-09-2006, 02:22 AM

www.sexpicturespass.com

The Sultan Of Smut · 03-09-2006, 02:48 AM

For straight I like Cyberage and Sexkey and for gay I like UGAS and Mancheck.

the Shemp · 03-09-2006, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lock

ok still a few around. A lot of AVS sites shut down years ago. Due to credit card processing and laws claiming there was no age verification with a card.
And processing for other sites etc. I used to run an AVS script (verifier) I could probably dig it up if i went thru some old archives. But just looking at options for other sites. Interested in AVS sites that want more than a few galleries or accept larger site. Eg: the old adultcheck gold

netverifier.com does the premium AVS type sites, ive got some on there..

shuki · 03-09-2006, 06:17 AM

deluxepass and pornaccess are other options

PR_Dave · 03-09-2006, 07:27 AM

AdultVideoPlanet.com

Kills all the rest

$1 trials and Pay Per Signup!

candyflip · 03-09-2006, 07:29 AM

I do great with PornAccess.

You can look at BYOT as a form of AVS/AEN too. ARS has a great setup, as does Pimproll.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 03-09-2006, 07:39 AM

Check Sig.

sexkeydwayne · 03-09-2006, 04:17 PM

Hey all,

My name is Dwayne, and I work for Sexkey.com, and Mansites.com. These two websites are still alive and paying our webmasters twice a month. We have beenn in the industry since 1997, and plan on being around for many years to come. We took a proactive approach to the new Credit Card company demands, and are absolutely compliant.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at any of the following ways listed below.

Dagwolf · 03-09-2006, 04:23 PM

I just put a couple of sites on Sexkey, I haven't used them for years but I used to get really good results.

jayeff · 03-09-2006, 05:34 PM

As others have said, the biggest difference you will see is on the traffic front. For some reason the established AVS webmasters have a tendency to be almost dismissive about that change, but it is huge.

If you were used to your listings getting hundreds of visitors in the past, now you will now be lucky to see low double-digits. Which means that while paying the same commission to the AVS operator as in the past, you not only need to drive your own traffic to make initial sales, but upsells will suck even if you do that. In most cases, rules on upsells have got tighter even when the AVS operator started pushing his own upsells harder, but the main factor is the reduced volume of internal traffic diluted between so many more sites.

If you check the new lists of the remaining "traditional" AVS programs, it isn't hard to spot that they are dominated by 3 or 4 webmasters submitting new sites every day and that without them, some lists would be empty. This has been going on for 5+ years, locking AVS standards into the 90's and making it practically impossible for a newcomer (or returnee) to earn anything much other than new sales from his own traffic.

Given all that, if you really want to handle content, the newer video-AEN programs, such as DeluxePass, are a much better bet. They provide you hosting and content for free, while at the same time paying the same kind of commission. Their product is more in tune with the current market, so since AVS prices have gone up, it is arguably easier to sell. You won't make anything on upsells (there are none), but any loss there is marginal nowadays anyway. Rebills are not quite as good as AVS sites enjoyed in their heyday, but close and certainly a lot better than just about anything else around. And the final advantage is that most have built-in affiliate programs, so you might be able to get yourself a few affiliates and earn some extra dollars that way too.

Brujah · 04-23-2006, 01:07 AM

bump for a great thread.. jayeff always makes solid posts.

Pornwolf · 04-23-2006, 01:23 AM

Yeah, Jayeff is one of my top 3 favorite posters. He had some kick ass SEO posts back in th day when AVS Lounge was around. I was J. Will over there by the way.

Cyber Sex Network & Net Verifier are the two best IMHO when it comes to protecting your site and getting a good payout. The retention is about the same all around now... but as Jayeff said, it's still better than most regular sponsors.

Pornwolf · 04-23-2006, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

I do great with PornAccess.

You can look at BYOT as a form of AVS/AEN too. ARS has a great setup, as does Pimproll.

I brought this point up a couple of months ago and folks tried to argue that they are completely different. I'm glad someone else understands what I was saying.

faxxaff · 04-23-2006, 03:39 AM

great discussion.

Is it still possible to make sites for adultcheck? I couldn't find a webmaster link on their pages.

Manowar · 04-23-2006, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff

great discussion.

Is it still possible to make sites for adultcheck? I couldn't find a webmaster link on their pages.

they went down

Pornwolf · 04-23-2006, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff

great discussion.

Is it still possible to make sites for adultcheck? I couldn't find a webmaster link on their pages.

No, not unless you know somone on the inside.

bobby666 · 04-23-2006, 04:19 AM

I make 2/3 of my money by deluxepass and janswebring.com, with 2 sites mirrored on both systems.
a sure income on a regulary basis without the hassle of building up each day severals mini avs sites...
I also tried other avs systems f.i. goldxpass which converted 42000:0 !
Cyberage: just a gold site there, which still sells
Universalpass: even no member views on sites !

ladida · 04-23-2006, 04:36 AM

I'm surprised noone mentioned adultbouncer? It's the biggest one and kicking still.

Drake · 04-23-2006, 05:01 AM

AdultsAllowed in my sig

bobby666 · 04-23-2006, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladida

I'm surprised noone mentioned adultbouncer? It's the biggest one and kicking still.

they have great content but their support is awful:
never really got the ftp logins for building up my sites there
but i got some generated support mails..dear affiliate.. before you ask .. look...was this your question? ......

MarkMan · 04-23-2006, 07:01 AM

yaa.. the AVS Days..

Adultcheck used to be the best..

bizarredollars · 04-23-2006, 07:04 AM

I am still doing pretty well with NetVerifier...

Fabien · 04-23-2006, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

As others have said, the biggest difference you will see is on the traffic front. For some reason the established AVS webmasters have a tendency to be almost dismissive about that change, but it is huge.

If you were used to your listings getting hundreds of visitors in the past, now you will now be lucky to see low double-digits. Which means that while paying the same commission to the AVS operator as in the past, you not only need to drive your own traffic to make initial sales, but upsells will suck even if you do that. In most cases, rules on upsells have got tighter even when the AVS operator started pushing his own upsells harder, but the main factor is the reduced volume of internal traffic diluted between so many more sites.

If you check the new lists of the remaining "traditional" AVS programs, it isn't hard to spot that they are dominated by 3 or 4 webmasters submitting new sites every day and that without them, some lists would be empty. This has been going on for 5+ years, locking AVS standards into the 90's and making it practically impossible for a newcomer (or returnee) to earn anything much other than new sales from his own traffic.

Given all that, if you really want to handle content, the newer video-AEN programs, such as DeluxePass, are a much better bet. They provide you hosting and content for free, while at the same time paying the same kind of commission. Their product is more in tune with the current market, so since AVS prices have gone up, it is arguably easier to sell. You won't make anything on upsells (there are none), but any loss there is marginal nowadays anyway. Rebills are not quite as good as AVS sites enjoyed in their heyday, but close and certainly a lot better than just about anything else around. And the final advantage is that most have built-in affiliate programs, so you might be able to get yourself a few affiliates and earn some extra dollars that way too.

Holly crap you sum it up perfectly!!!!!
Sad but true. Man, did this thing made rebills wow.
I miss it

ladida · 04-23-2006, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby666

they have great content but their support is awful:
never really got the ftp logins for building up my sites there
but i got some generated support mails..dear affiliate.. before you ask .. look...was this your question? ......

Quite possible. But i know they're huge, and i wonder are they just lacking staff or not caring. I think it's not caring when you get to that size

TheSenator · 04-23-2006, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Yeah, Jayeff is one of my top 3 favorite posters. He had some kick ass SEO posts back in th day when AVS Lounge was around. I was J. Will over there by the way.

Cyber Sex Network & Net Verifier are the two best IMHO when it comes to protecting your site and getting a good payout. The retention is about the same all around now... but as Jayeff said, it's still better than most regular sponsors.

I remember the AVS Lounge.

I use to be an Adult Check and AgeCheck(CyberAge) webmaster back in the day.

I used to do crazy upsells and crazy rebills. I use to take summers off and live off the rebills.
Those days are over though.... it is now the age of AENs

Pornwolf · 04-23-2006, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

I remember the AVS Lounge.

I use to be an Adult Check and AgeCheck(CyberAge) webmaster back in the day.

I used to do crazy upsells and crazy rebills. I use to take summers off and live off the rebills.

Brad Gosse · 04-23-2006, 12:15 PM

ahhhhh the AVS good ole days.

uno · 04-23-2006, 12:52 PM

Sigh.

TheSenator · 04-23-2006, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

ahhhhh the AVS good ole days.

You were definately one of the biggest players.

Jamie · 04-23-2006, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexkeydwayne

Hey all,

My name is Dwayne, and I work for Sexkey.com, and Mansites.com. These two websites are still alive and paying our webmasters twice a month. We have beenn in the industry since 1997, and plan on being around for many years to come. We took a proactive approach to the new Credit Card company demands, and are absolutely compliant.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at any of the following ways listed below.

Sexkey rocks, i'm still making a killing with them.

Project-Shadow · 04-23-2006, 01:46 PM

AVS is dead.. AEN isn't ^^'

http://www.adultbouncer.com/webmasters.php?wref=ab19855 - Adultbouncer
http://www.adultsallowed.com/wm/index.php/3990 - AdultsAllowed
http://aux.avsofchoice.com/new_wm?refwm=6912933 - Cyberage

I wrote a post about all these systems a while back - http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=451248

Probably out of date now, but I tried

DaLord · 04-23-2006, 01:49 PM

I made neat cash with AdultCheck. Man, those were the days...
Each site I had made approx 5000-6000 dollars per month and I had quite a few.

Clement from Deluxe Pass is a good guy but very slow.
I've been waiting for content for approx 6-7 months now.

sonofsam · 04-23-2006, 01:49 PM

lock: what's inside the hatch?

DaLord · 04-23-2006, 02:08 PM

Sexkey.com allows celebrity content don't they? Or did I get that terrible wrong?

Mike

bobby666 · 04-23-2006, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaLord

I made neat cash with AdultCheck. Man, those were the days...
Each site I had made approx 5000-6000 dollars per month and I had quite a few.

Clement from Deluxe Pass is a good guy but very slow.
I've been waiting for content for approx 6-7 months now.

(deluxepass)
especially if you order content which is not ripped yet, i can affirm the truth of the statement

Deraj · 04-23-2006, 02:54 PM

Still got the good ol XXXKey =)

03-07-2006, 12:30 AM	#1
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03-07-2006, 03:54 AM	#7
lock Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 5,065	ok still a few around. A lot of AVS sites shut down years ago. Due to credit card processing and laws claiming there was no age verification with a card. And processing for other sites etc. I used to run an AVS script (verifier) I could probably dig it up if i went thru some old archives. But just looking at options for other sites. Interested in AVS sites that want more than a few galleries or accept larger site. Eg: the old adultcheck gold __________________ Traffic.Tools - 40+ Free Tools Free.Marketing - 150+ Free Tools Submission.Tools - 20+ Free Tools

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03-07-2006, 02:59 AM	#6
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03-07-2006, 03:59 AM	#8
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03-09-2006, 02:12 AM	#9
lock Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 5,065	i will see if i can find an old list of old AVS sites from 90's and see what became what. I remember agecheck becoming cyberage. And avs.com with the official gov warning shutting them down. __________________ Traffic.Tools - 40+ Free Tools Free.Marketing - 150+ Free Tools Submission.Tools - 20+ Free Tools

03-09-2006, 02:22 AM	#10
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03-09-2006, 02:48 AM	#11
The Sultan Of Smut Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,325	For straight I like Cyberage and Sexkey and for gay I like UGAS and Mancheck.

03-09-2006, 06:17 AM	#13
shuki Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 3,070	deluxepass and pornaccess are other options __________________ Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

03-09-2006, 07:27 AM	#14
PR_Dave Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 2,792	AdultVideoPlanet.com Kills all the rest $1 trials and Pay Per Signup! __________________ www.PIMPROLL.com

03-09-2006, 07:29 AM	#15
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,058	I do great with PornAccess. You can look at BYOT as a form of AVS/AEN too. ARS has a great setup, as does Pimproll. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

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03-09-2006, 04:23 PM	#18
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03-09-2006, 05:34 PM	#19
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	As others have said, the biggest difference you will see is on the traffic front. For some reason the established AVS webmasters have a tendency to be almost dismissive about that change, but it is huge. If you were used to your listings getting hundreds of visitors in the past, now you will now be lucky to see low double-digits. Which means that while paying the same commission to the AVS operator as in the past, you not only need to drive your own traffic to make initial sales, but upsells will suck even if you do that. In most cases, rules on upsells have got tighter even when the AVS operator started pushing his own upsells harder, but the main factor is the reduced volume of internal traffic diluted between so many more sites. If you check the new lists of the remaining "traditional" AVS programs, it isn't hard to spot that they are dominated by 3 or 4 webmasters submitting new sites every day and that without them, some lists would be empty. This has been going on for 5+ years, locking AVS standards into the 90's and making it practically impossible for a newcomer (or returnee) to earn anything much other than new sales from his own traffic. Given all that, if you really want to handle content, the newer video-AEN programs, such as DeluxePass, are a much better bet. They provide you hosting and content for free, while at the same time paying the same kind of commission. Their product is more in tune with the current market, so since AVS prices have gone up, it is arguably easier to sell. You won't make anything on upsells (there are none), but any loss there is marginal nowadays anyway. Rebills are not quite as good as AVS sites enjoyed in their heyday, but close and certainly a lot better than just about anything else around. And the final advantage is that most have built-in affiliate programs, so you might be able to get yourself a few affiliates and earn some extra dollars that way too.

04-23-2006, 01:07 AM	#20
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04-23-2006, 01:23 AM	#21
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04-23-2006, 03:39 AM	#23
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04-23-2006, 04:19 AM	#26
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04-23-2006, 04:36 AM	#27
ladida Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,167	I'm surprised noone mentioned adultbouncer? It's the biggest one and kicking still.

04-23-2006, 05:01 AM	#28
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04-23-2006, 07:01 AM	#30
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04-23-2006, 01:49 PM	#41
DaLord Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,318	I made neat cash with AdultCheck. Man, those were the days... Each site I had made approx 5000-6000 dollars per month and I had quite a few. Clement from Deluxe Pass is a good guy but very slow. I've been waiting for content for approx 6-7 months now.

04-23-2006, 01:49 PM	#42
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04-23-2006, 02:08 PM	#43
DaLord Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,318	Sexkey.com allows celebrity content don't they? Or did I get that terrible wrong? Mike