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Old 05-08-2002, 09:48 AM   #1
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Big Tours are ruining the biz

Whats with all the new sites having huge tours now...free movies and tons of free graphic pics. Site like mikes apartament which is a good site give so many surfers all the goods then the ratios are horrible...There's so much free shit out there now as it is..now it looks like the size of the average tour is going up...this is only going to make it harder than it already is
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Old 05-08-2002, 09:50 AM   #2
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and this is ruining the biz.... how?
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Old 05-08-2002, 09:56 AM   #3
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I don't need big tours to convert them fucks.
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Old 05-08-2002, 09:59 AM   #4
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Some surfers like long tours, some want to just get in jerk off, then cancel their membership

I think it's better to sign them up before they jerk off
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Old 05-08-2002, 10:05 AM   #5
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If it's somthing thats ruening this industry it isn't big tours
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Old 05-08-2002, 10:05 AM   #6
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Big tours are helping the biz... surfers actually know what they are getting and then when they sign up they stay a lot longer instead of seeing some short tour that promises them the world and they get an ARS members area
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Old 05-08-2002, 10:06 AM   #7
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WTF? If somebody finds a big tour helps his sign-ups, that's his business and his bandwidth bill, right? You're telling me you can't compete with that? Whatever it takes. I have a lot of photos in my tour at http://www.girlsdotcom.com (and I do have a pretty good affiliate program, if anyone's interested), but the photos are downsized and censored. That's how I do it. If someone else finds doing it another way works for him, great.
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Old 05-08-2002, 10:07 AM   #8
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All my small tour sponsors convert 10 times what the larger tour sponsors convert.
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Old 05-08-2002, 10:33 AM   #9
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Old 05-08-2002, 11:47 AM   #10
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We make all the content for this site so promote the damn thing - angelsofporn.com
Nice looking site but I found a typo on the first page.

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Old 05-08-2002, 11:52 AM   #11
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Old 05-08-2002, 12:07 PM   #12
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Big tours are helping the biz... surfers actually know what they are getting and then when they sign up they stay a lot longer instead of seeing some short tour that promises them the world and they get an ARS members area
Yeah really, All thier dam sites are pointed to the same dam content. They have about 80+ sites with niche specific tours not niche specific content.

Because of the reputation that ars sites have with sufers. Any dam site with the same type of design is worthless to them now. I have to agree with xApster on mike's apartment, because it's a diferrent type of design, good reputation, and the fucken content on the tour is the actual content you get for your money. My point is it doesnt matter how big your tour is. If you geta boner on the tour, then the actual site they pay for must keep it rock hard. Which leaves the surfer happy and commited. Other way around and the surfer will not only not be horny but also mad as fuck.
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Old 05-08-2002, 01:05 PM   #13
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Big tours?

*blink*

Big tours.

Down with big tours?

Down with big tours!

DOWN WITH BIG TOURS!!!

DOWN WITH BIG TOURS!!!
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Old 05-08-2002, 02:30 PM   #14
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Come take a look at our program, we offer both short and long tours. The short tours do seem to out convert the longer tours by a bit.
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Old 05-08-2002, 03:06 PM   #15
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I have a big Tourbus ...
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Old 05-08-2002, 03:53 PM   #16
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It depends on what you're selling really.

Flashcash has 1 page tours that convert good for what they're selling.

Then look at Amateurpages. I'm not going to go there and count, but there's a fuck of a lot of pages on that tour.
Same thing with WantBoobs and the Oxcash and Nastydollar sites. (And all 4 of the programs I just mentioned convert extremely well for me)

When you're only selling a "niche" then its enough to have some nice graphics and a small pitch explaining how many pics/videos etc you have inside.

When you're selling amateurs, then its the actual models who are selling the surfer, so you need to show them "who" they'll be getting inside.

If you can't sell Mike's Apartment then find something else to promote, but the way they do their tours has nothing to do with how well anything else on the adult web sells.
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Old 05-08-2002, 04:01 PM   #17
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Mercy.... Seems like with all of the tgp sites and stolen content sites, a legit pay site that just happens to have a bit of detail as to what the potential customer will have access to seems like a bit more leverage in convincing the surfer to join.. Mike's Apartment has a few sample files, but there are new files on an ongoing basis.. If the surfer likes the ones that he sees, then he is more apt to join; knowing there is more to follow.. just my lowly opinion..
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Old 05-08-2002, 04:50 PM   #18
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What is a tour?
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Old 05-08-2002, 07:20 PM   #19
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Tours aint the problem
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Old 05-08-2002, 07:21 PM   #20
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Tours aint the problem
Of course not.

BIG tours are!

DOWN WITH BIG TOURS!
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Old 05-08-2002, 07:44 PM   #21
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when will you ppl stop complaining first it's TGPs giving away too much, then theres just too many gallery builders now your bitching about paysite tours, fuck man just give it up nobody is to blame but yourself if you can't get signups. your the one in charge of marketing you get it done, don't like the site don't promote it simple as that
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Old 05-08-2002, 07:58 PM   #22
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Uh-oh.

What if the TGP's start giving away big tours?
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Old 05-08-2002, 08:22 PM   #23
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Uh-oh.

What if the TGP's start giving away big tours?
we're all doomed.....
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Old 05-08-2002, 08:46 PM   #24
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All my traffice I send to big tours sites is pre-qualified. They have to sign a from that they can have Multi-Orgasm... And if they lie, I tell them they will lose there Internet privilege.. Am like 1/40 on BIG tour sites..
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Old 05-08-2002, 08:49 PM   #25
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This thread is getting pretty big, maybe we should stop posting on it before we ruin GFY.
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Old 05-08-2002, 08:50 PM   #26
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when will you ppl stop complaining first it's TGPs giving away too much, then theres just too many gallery builders now your bitching about paysite tours, fuck man just give it up nobody is to blame but yourself if you can't get signups. your the one in charge of marketing you get it done, don't like the site don't promote it simple as that
Well the tgps do give too much away, and there are too many gallery builders. And hell there's probably too many paysites come to think of it.

Those big tours are funny tho, and it's not what the surfer thinks he's going to see...
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Old 05-08-2002, 09:11 PM   #27
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And hell there's probably too many paysites come to think of it.
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