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Old 04-17-2006, 10:36 AM   #151
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so coke made in jungle

heroin is more expencive then cocaine

one gram of lsd costs 1 mil bucks


what's next dude ? keep'em comming .... ^_^
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it isn't illegal..
it can be pretty god damn expensive, though.
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Old 04-17-2006, 10:38 AM   #153
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Do your own fucking homework. Cocaine is produced by a series of soakings and dryings in various solutions including potash, kerosene, sulfuric acid, and ammonium hydroxide and a couple others I've forgotten. It is nowhere near as complex a process as LSD production.

here we go again

http://www.dataalchemy.com/txt/DRUGS/LSD.TXT.htm

this is how to produce PURE LSD at you own kitchen.

and all those big drug-dealers built undergroud laboratories for producing cocaine , must be nutzz !

next...
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so coke made in jungle

heroin is more expencive then cocaine

one gram of lsd costs 1 mil bucks


what's next dude ? keep'em comming .... ^_^
try reading try reading try reading . welcome to reality.. this lesson on how to school punk kids has been a public service announcement..
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1 gram of lsd = 3 hits

cocaine is hard to make and more expenisve than heroin or l.s.d

lsd can be made in your kitchen and is easier to make than cocaine

bwahahah keep em coming kiddo..
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doing a bunch of acid at a dead concert 10 years ago doesnt make you an expert on drug prices today. ( im not claiming to be either just pointing out FACTS based on published EVIDENCE not hearsay based on memory )
My experience goes a little beyond that. What I'm saying is
a) 25 mikes ain't a dose, it's a burn.
b) $40,000 for a gram? I may have been away awhile but I don't think so.
c) don't believe everything you read
d) Dead forever, forever Dead
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here we go again

http://www.dataalchemy.com/txt/DRUGS/LSD.TXT.htm

this is how to produce PURE LSD at you own kitchen.

and all those big drug-dealers built undergroud laboratories for producing cocaine , must be nutzz !

next...
What does a lab's location have to do with process?

REPEAT -
FACT: cocaine is easier to produce than LSD.
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1 gram of lsd = 3 hits

cocaine is hard to make and more expenisve than heroin or l.s.d

lsd can be made in your kitchen and is easier to make than cocaine

bwahahah keep em coming kiddo..
1 gram DOES equal 3 hits...if you plan on spending the rest of your life in a psych ward.
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it isn't illegal..
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My experience goes a little beyond that. What I'm saying is
a) 25 mikes ain't a dose, it's a burn.
b) $40,000 for a gram? I may have been away awhile but I don't think so.
c) don't believe everything you read
d) Dead forever, forever Dead
a) 25 micrograms is an AVERAGE dose , i dont make the facts i just report them.. 250 mikes ( 10 times that ) was the avg dose in the 60's , we arent in the 60's anymore..

B) street prices , 10k hits using your super conservative estimates times $4 a hit ( a conservative lsd street price ) = what ?? using a more realistic estimate using the FACTS , its more like 40k hits at $10 a pop =

C) i believe what the evidence points out.. so far it points out to simple math as explained above.. even using your own estimates its 40k so .. dont know how that changes

d) life is short but your dead for sooooooo long.
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1 gram of lsd = 3 hits

cocaine is hard to make and more expenisve than heroin or l.s.d

lsd can be made in your kitchen and is easier to make than cocaine

bwahahah keep em coming kiddo..
heroin is far more expensive than coke

i would have to agree that lsd is the most expensive
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1 gram of lsd = 3 hits

cocaine is hard to make and more expenisve than heroin or l.s.d

lsd can be made in your kitchen and is easier to make than cocaine

bwahahah keep em coming kiddo..

1) yes
2) yes
3) yes

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Old 04-17-2006, 10:57 AM   #164
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i would have to agree that lsd is the most expensive
that's right Smokey !
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I was in India this winter and I can say that drugs in Europe are very expencive: two, three times more. It could be a good business
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Old 04-17-2006, 11:03 AM   #166
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that's right Smokey !
look who your quoting you idiot.. does that say smokey .. ? what a moron..
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a) 25 micrograms is an AVERAGE dose , i dont make the facts i just report them.. 250 mikes ( 10 times that ) was the avg dose in the 60's , we arent in the 60's anymore..

B) street prices , 10k hits using your super conservative estimates times $4 a hit ( a conservative lsd street price ) = what ?? using a more realistic estimate using the FACTS , its more like 40k hits at $10 a pop =

C) i believe what the evidence points out.. so far it points out to simple math as explained above.. even using your own estimates its 40k so .. dont know how that changes

d) life is short but your dead for sooooooo long.
You're not reporting "facts", you're regurgitating what you've read on the internet.

a)if 25 mikes is todays average dose a lot of people that think they've done acid have no idea what it's really like. I really have to believe that is the absolute low end of the scale.

b)O.K. street price for a gram is $40,000. Dealer cost is a mere fraction of that. LSD has always been very profitable in terms of markup.

c) see b

d)Wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world
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look who your quoting you idiot.. does that say smokey .. ? what a moron..
I call all the retards smokey
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heroine is $80 gram here , 100% pure heroin.

In many U.S. cities today, heroin is less than $10/bag and is 80%
- 90% pure. From the perspective, the price has dropped dramatically over
the past 30 years

x0x0 sm0key post more !!
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are you fucking stupid? you can find hordes of ppl willing to snort up a bunch of coke but only a handfull of people willing and with a strong enough mind to take LSD.

LSD is not for the weak, it will mindfuck you and crush you.

coke is for the weak and addicts.
You need to take more as it's positive effects have so far escaped you.
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heroine is $80 gram here , 100% pure heroin.

In many U.S. cities today, heroin is less than $10/bag and is 80%
- 90% pure. From the perspective, the price has dropped dramatically over
the past 30 years

x0x0 sm0key post more !!
There is no 100% pure heroin being sold at the gram level.
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There is no 100% pure heroin being sold at the gram level.
why that ? care to explain... ?
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You need to take more as it's positive effects have so far escaped you.
he ain' talking about his personal expirience , nofx said , that there is much bigger market for cocaine then for lsd
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You're not reporting "facts", you're regurgitating what you've read on the internet.
i dont deny that. i pointed out the links , thats how we get facts we search them out and find the ones that we trust the most .. should i trust wikipedia and scientific journals who for the most part is pretty bang on..

or should i trust your facts of a deadhead with experience from the 60's memories..

hmmmmm

deadhead hippys memories
or
wikipedia and several other sources including complete medical journals and avg doses
hmmmmmmmmm
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a)if 25 mikes is todays average dose a lot of people that think they've done acid have no idea what it's really like. I really have to believe that is the absolute low end of the scale.
could be . i have taken alot of acid in my day as well , and even seen pure lsd crystals, but to be honest , its hard to "guestimate" that into how much was in every dose i took.. so we can only really know by what "experts" tell us right.. do you have a scale capable of weighing micrograms ? me neither

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b)O.K. street price for a gram is $40,000. Dealer cost is a mere fraction of that. LSD has always been very profitable in terms of markup.
same with coke ( although obviously a higher markup for lsd )
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There is no 100% pure heroin being sold at the gram level.
my dealer is now very dissapointed at ya
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heroine is $80 gram here , 100% pure heroin.

In many U.S. cities today, heroin is less than $10/bag and is 80%
- 90% pure. From the perspective, the price has dropped dramatically over
the past 30 years

x0x0 sm0key post more !!
and .. that makes it more than $40,000 how ?

hmm $80 is more than $40,000 ? what the fuck are you smoking..

even by your own retard math that lsd = 250 a gram thats still less than lsd..

NEXT............

p.s. keep trying though , you might eventually get a grasp of this "math" thing..
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some people just make it so damn easy.. lol
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heroine is $80 gram here , 100% pure heroin.

In many U.S. cities today, heroin is less than $10/bag and is 80%
- 90% pure. From the perspective, the price has dropped dramatically over
the past 30 years

x0x0 sm0key post more !!
sorry bro but your not getting 100% pure heroin
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look who your quoting you idiot.. does that say smokey .. ? what a moron..
yeah your right im a moron and coke is more expensive than heroin
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yeah your right im a moron and coke is more expensive than heroin
you dont even know what your arguing about .lol

i was the one who said heroin is more expensive...

by weight
lsd is most expensive
then heroin
then cocaine
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cocaine is hard to make and more expenisve than heroin or l.s.d
maybe im wrong i didnt read the whole post. I was just going by what you said here.
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maybe im wrong i didnt read the whole post. I was just going by what you said here.
yah you have to read from start to finish to understand things. i was calling vlad a moron because he quoted you and though i said it by mistake..

I was making a facetious comment based on what vlad had said , you misinterpreted it as me saying coke was more than heroin.. but thats ok everyone is wrong a few times , at least you own up to it..
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yah you have to read from start to finish to understand things. i was calling vlad a moron because he quoted you and though i said it by mistake..

I was making a facetious comment based on what vlad had said , you misinterpreted it as me saying coke was more than heroin.. but thats ok everyone is wrong a few times , at least you own up to it..
yeah sorry my bad
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i dont deny that. i pointed out the links , thats how we get facts we search them out and find the ones that we trust the most .. should i trust wikipedia and scientific journals who for the most part is pretty bang on..

or should i trust your facts of a deadhead with experience from the 60's memories..

hmmmmm

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wikipedia and several other sources including complete medical journals and avg doses
hmmmmmmmmm

could be . i have taken alot of acid in my day as well , and even seen pure lsd crystals, but to be honest , its hard to "guestimate" that into how much was in every dose i took.. so we can only really know by what "experts" tell us right.. do you have a scale capable of weighing micrograms ? me neither



same with coke ( although obviously a higher markup for lsd )
I'll take practical experience over wikipedia. Everything published on the internet is not a "fact."

P.S. I'm not talking about the 60's. Even I was just a child then.
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I'll take practical experience over wikipedia. Everything published on the internet is not a "fact."

P.S. I'm not talking about the 60's. Even I was just a child then.
yes but did your personal experience include weighing micrograms of acid ?? im not saying you didnt , but im saying very few people have.. i have seen pure lsd crystals ( althought admittedly not ever weighed what a dose was ) the only thing i can go on is evidence in the form of tests that the government does
on lsd and its affects , and the does they use , and any credible evidence to suggest an AVG dose

Do you know for a fact that your doses contained over 250 mikes per ?

I admit i dont know for a fact because you dont take pur lsd crystals you dilute it.. even "microdot" acid isnt dots of pure micros' , i only know what others have stated and scientific evidence suggests

( do a little research on project bluebird ) i know the guy that ran it..
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Definitely coke - it cost around $100 - $140 per gramme
not even close to lsd..

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Smokey and escorpio, why are you arguing? You seem to be in agreement:
On a "per hit" basis, buying from a dealer, what Smokey says is more or less true. On a "per gram" basis, buying as a dealer, what escorpio says is more or less true.

Oh, and Vlad: wtf?
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Smokey and escorpio, why are you arguing? You seem to be in agreement:
just semantics.. lol but yes i think we both agree whatever the per dose amount is a gram of lsd is worth more than any illicit drug mentioned.

anyone can say they got some cheap drugs one time and conclude all drugs must be the same value , or you could take the only real evidence available and conclude the obvious..

lsd is more expensive than heroin , heroin is more expensive than coke. . on the street level you might find variations..

heroin cut 90% will be about the same price as pure coke at street level in some areas.. ( like england ) but pure heroin is more expensive than pure coke in almost any area ( besides heroin producing countries of course )
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Old 04-17-2006, 01:42 PM   #192
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Smokey and escorpio, why are you arguing? You seem to be in agreement:
On a "per hit" basis, buying from a dealer, what Smokey says is more or less true. On a "per gram" basis, buying as a dealer, what escorpio says is more or less true.

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Smokey and escorpio, why are you arguing? You seem to be in agreement:
On a "per hit" basis, buying from a dealer, what Smokey says is more or less true. On a "per gram" basis, buying as a dealer, what escorpio says is more or less true.

Oh, and Vlad: wtf?
We are in agreement that LSD is without a doubt the most expensive drug on a per gram basis. Our disagreement was over the reliability of wikipedia on this subject. Basicly it's an old timer (me) saying "25 micrograms? WTF?." I can't imagine a hit of acid being that weak. How you gonna meet The All on 25 micrograms?

I have no disrespect for Smokey.
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lol @ this thread

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>> one gram of pure lsd costs around $250 , about 2 ~ 3 hits.

lol you take 1/2 a gram of LSD and see how that goes for you will fucking go insane and never come back LSD is like 100micrograms a strong trip or something
500mg is like 500,000 micrograms thats like 500 times the dose you
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I honestly couldn't answer that question because I've been out of the loop for a long time. Maybe it has risen by 10x, but I doubt it. Acid chemists and dealers are strange lot and greed was never one of their motivations. Maybe things have changed and I'm just an old Deadhead living in the past.
Things are way different these days. Even as late as 99 or so you could find Uncle Sid for $3 per ~150-200mic or so in various forms. Lately, college kids have been getting what I'd imagine to be, from anectodotal evidence, 50-75mic tabs for $10 per. I have known people to sell/buy them for as much as $20 per hit. After the big busts a few years ago a large part of the distro chain was disrupted.

As for "Vlad" you should really just stop replying to him and ignore 'em. He has absolutely NO idea of what he's talking about and seems like a waste of effort to even acknowledge.
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doing a bunch of acid at a dead concert 10 years ago doesnt make you an expert on drug prices today. ( im not claiming to be either just pointing out FACTS based on published EVIDENCE not hearsay based on memory )

it also doesnt make math suddenly change..

even by your own conservative 1960's lsd dose its still worth well over 40k at street level so.. until i see anything other than rhetoric. Maybe your caculator is on l.s.d.
Escorpio is more or less correct on part of his arguments, he's just not arguing the same thing. The purchase price of a gram to those with the right connections is from 4-12k. Most of his experience is from years ago and for the time he's speaking about until the late 99/00 he's correct. A lot has happened since then.
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Lately, college kids have been getting what I'd imagine to be, from anectodotal evidence, 50-75mic tabs for $10 per. I have known people to sell/buy them for as much as $20 per hit.
That's just sad. We used to give it away at shows. Sounds like Greedheads have replaced Deadheads.
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