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04-17-2006, 08:03 AM

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I would agree on this one with you , nofx.

however , everyone can produce LSD ( aint takes lots of components , therefore it's CHEAP drug)

cocaine , well , you will need a very complex laboratory to produce it.

hey vlad how many micrograms in a gram ?? ill answer that for you , its 1 million..

now how many doses would you get out of a gram if each dose is 25 micrograms ? I'll answer that for you too because you dont seem very smart. its 40 thousand hits.

So every gram of lsd produces 40 thousand hits.. ,so explain to me how many "hits" you get out of a gram of cocaine.. then explain to me how a gram of cocaine is worth more than a gram of lsd. then explain why your mentally defective and cant do simple math without a babysitter ..

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04-17-2006, 08:04 AM

a real man admits his mistakes. try being a man not a child and admit you know absolutley nothing about the subject ( obviously )

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04-17-2006, 08:10 AM

Would all depend on where you live, and how easy it is to come by there.
In some parts 1g of shitty mixed out coke/washing powder would cost around $200, while in other parts of the world, 1g of PURE coke will cost you $2
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04-17-2006, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by KingK7

Would all depend on where you live, and how easy it is to come by there.
In some parts 1g of shitty mixed out coke/washing powder would cost around $200, while in other parts of the world, 1g of PURE coke will cost you $2

no it wouldn't , because we are speaking of "most expensive" drug. cocaine isnt even CLOSE to the top.. heroin is a ton more expensive than coke.

and as mentioned lsd is worth at a very conservative estimate of at least 40k per gram , and more realistically street price is 400k per gram , so by comparison. $400,000 compared to $200, you do the math..

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04-17-2006, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by Vlad

all those drugdealers kinda retarded for dealing with cocaine , one g of lsd according to Smokey costs over mil bucks ... hahahah

Not really, it's just hard to sell. Coke is probably the most lucrative drug to deal with. Probably also the most expensive to the drug user himself. Priced at around $50 per gram here in Holland, I know people who sniff multiple grams per weekend because the effect of one line only lasts for about 20 mins or so. 1 Gram is about 5 lines, maybe 3 if you're a heavy user. When you're a coke sniffing yuppy going out you're probably spending a lot more than the average LSD or heroin addict if you plan on being under influence all day (or night).

This question is kind of incomplete. Do you mean the most expensive per gram? Or per hit? Even weed can be expensive if you look at it this way. A buddy of mine smokes about $20 of weed a day, only quality stuff, Mexican Haze, etc. That's around $140 a week, which is pretty much the same expense as sniffing 3 grams of coke in a weekend.

When you use daily and are an addict, then coke is probably the most expensive. But it's harder to get addicted to coke than heroin for example.

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04-17-2006, 08:23 AM

smoke weed... its the best

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04-17-2006, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by KingK7

Would all depend on where you live, and how easy it is to come by there.
In some parts 1g of shitty mixed out coke/washing powder would cost around $200, while in other parts of the world, 1g of PURE coke will cost you $2

That's kinda BS, the chemical process it takes to create a gram of coke costs more than $2. Same with XTC, average going price in the Netherlands is never lower than 50 cents per 40mg or so (per pill) because the ingredients to make one pill cost 35 cents. Average going price in clubs in Europe for example is up to $5 per pill.

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04-17-2006, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

no it wouldn't , because we are speaking of "most expensive" drug. cocaine isnt even CLOSE to the top.. heroin is a ton more expensive than coke.

and as mentioned lsd is worth at a very conservative estimate of at least 40k per gram , and more realistically street price is 400k per gram , so by comparison. $400,000 compared to $200, you do the math..

heroin is not that much more expensive than coke and in some U.S. cities it's cheaper.
LSD is not that expensive. I'm going back a bit here because I've been out of the loop for awhile but a gram of blotter (100 sheets X 100 hits X 100 mikes) was $4000. Sheets of 100 were $40. I'm talking Grateful Dead scene in the 80's.
Cocaine is way easier to make than LSD. LSD takes a skilled chemist to produce. Cocaine is just a series of washes.

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04-17-2006, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by white-rob-like-whoa

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04-17-2006, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by escorpio

heroin is not that much more expensive than coke and in some U.S. cities it's cheaper.
LSD is not that expensive. I'm going back a bit here because I've been out of the loop for awhile but a gram of blotter (100 sheets X 100 hits X 100 mikes) was $4000. Sheets of 100 were $40. I'm talking Grateful Dead scene in the 80's.
Cocaine is way easier to make than LSD. LSD takes a skilled chemist to produce. Cocaine is just a series of washes.

If anyone wants to argue with me...just don't, O.K.? I'm right, you're wrong.

your confusing "points" with grams.. pure heroin is much more expensiove than pure cocaine BY WEIGHT , plain and simple.. spin that how you want but thats reality..

by weight as has been explained and you obviously missed a GRAM of pure lsd makes 40,000 hits...

so do you think you could sell 40 thousand hits of acid for the same price as a gram of coke..? get real

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04-17-2006, 08:47 AM

so if you wanna argue with reality go ahead. reality is right , you are wrong period.. your talking about things you obviously know nothing about... go do some research and come back with a clue..

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04-17-2006, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

your confusing "points" with grams.. pure heroin is much more expensiove than pure cocaine BY WEIGHT , plain and simple.. spin that how you want but thats reality..

by weight as has been explained and you obviously missed a GRAM of pure lsd makes 40,000 hits...

so do you think you could sell 40 thousand hits of acid for the same price as a gram of coke..? get real

All I know for an absolute fact is when I lived in Seattle black tar heroin was cheaper than cocaine.

A gram of pure LSD does not make 40,000 hits. Twenty five mikes ain't a fucking dose. I'd get higher on a couple bong hits. I know I'm an old timer but 100 mikes is what we used to call a "disco dose". I don't know what in the fuck you'd call 25 mikes.

Where the fuck did I say a gram of coke costs more than a gram of acid? I said a gram of acid cost $4000 back in my day.

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04-17-2006, 08:51 AM

i should also mention that in europe cocaine is alot closer to heroin prices ( still cheaper but closer )

Anyone who has any experience will tell you heroin is more expensive than coke.. anyone with basic math skills and a brain can figure out 40,000 hits of acid is worth more than a gram of cocaine or a gram of heroin or any illicit drug mentioned so far

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04-17-2006, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

so if you wanna argue with reality go ahead. reality is right , you are wrong period.. your talking about things you obviously know nothing about... go do some research and come back with a clue..

Yeah, 10+ years following the Dead and I know nothing about acid.

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04-17-2006, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by escorpio

All I know for an absolute fact is when I lived in Seattle black tar heroin was cheaper than cocaine.

A gram of pure LSD does not make 40,000 hits. Twenty five mikes ain't a fucking dose. I'd get higher on a couple bong hits. I know I'm an old timer but 100 mikes is what we used to call a "disco dose". I don't know what in the fuck you'd call 25 mikes.

Where the fuck did I say a gram of coke costs more than a gram of acid? I said a gram of acid cost $4000 back in my day.

comparing black tar heroin to pure cocaine is like comparing cocaine to crack..

I said PURE heroin.. , PURE heroin is more expensive than coke in any place i have ever seen

25 micrograms IS a dose.. back in the day it was more like 250

"Today, a typical single dose of LSD is as low as 25?50 micrograms"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsd

but i suppose you know better..

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04-17-2006, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by escorpio

Yeah, 10+ years following the Dead and I know nothing about acid.

it doesnt appear you know much so far.. maybe you did too much acid

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04-17-2006, 08:58 AM

LSD is, by weight, one of the most potent drugs yet discovered. Both subjective reports and pharmacological methods such as receptor binding assays determine LSD to be, per mole, around 100 times more potent than psilocybin and psilocin and around 4,000 times more potent than mescaline. Dosages of LSD are measured in micrograms (hahaha181;g), or millionths of a gram. By comparison, dosages of almost all other drugs, both recreational and medical, are measured in milligrams (mg), or thousandths of a gram.

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04-17-2006, 09:00 AM

Smokey keep on posting =)

people tell you from expirience , you obviously only heard about LSD on google

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04-17-2006, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

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Anyone who has any experience will tell you heroin is more expensive than coke..
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04-17-2006, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

comparing black tar heroin to pure cocaine is like comparing cocaine to crack..

I said PURE heroin.. , PURE heroin is more expensive than coke in any place i have ever seen

25 micrograms IS a dose.. back in the day it was more like 250

"Today, a typical single dose of LSD is as low as 25?50 micrograms"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsd

but i suppose you know better..

Oh, well if wikipedia says so...
Twenty five mikes has got to be the absolute low end of anything you could ever buy. A gram is 10,000 doses at 100 mikes per. One hundred mikes being an actual dose, not a weak hit of rip off acid.
I'm not arguing that acid on a per gram basis is the most expensive drug available, but your figures are still way off. And on a per dose basis it's probably one of the cheapest drugs. You can get way higher on $4 worth of acid than anything else.

As for cocaine versus heroin...it depends on where you are but heroin is not WAY more expensive. They are pretty close.

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04-17-2006, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by Vlad

Smokey keep on posting =)

people tell you from expirience , you obviously only heard about LSD on google

funny kid

you have already been played out as an idiot. we are onto the next person already , you proved you are a retard with no understanding of math, you think a gram of lsd is worth less than cocaine because your an idiot. you also seem to think a gram of lsd makes 3 hits hahah , vlad the lsd expert bwahaha

grab a clue son, you were proven to know ZERO about the topic

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04-17-2006, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

it doesnt appear you know much so far.. maybe you did too much acid

Maybe...

Dude, please. I know very well what I speak of.

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04-17-2006, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

i think your mom took to much acid as a kid

I won't get with you on "your mama" level...

as well I wouldn't expect any better arguments from you

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04-17-2006, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

i already posted the numbers , its 25-50 micrograms per dose , back in the day it was 5-10 times that , its simple math.. 25 micrograms = 40 thousand doses per gram.. 50 micrograms = 20 thousand doses

so theres 20k - 40k doses at street level maybe $10 per dose = 200k to 400k per gram , so far i havent heard anything mentioned that beats it by weight for price..

lol man no need to get all crazy. now if you are into taking small doses sure you could make a killer profit and a ton of doses. but the way we did it was more around 200mg's not 25-50. so i guess it could go either way right?
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04-17-2006, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by escorpio

Maybe...

Dude, please. I know very well what I speak of.

man , leave him alone , he probably got insulted and trying to google every related story since 1960's about LSD
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04-17-2006, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by escorpio

Oh, well if wikipedia says so...

so wikipedia is lying and your the expert ok.. bwahaha

Originally posted by escorpio

Twenty five mikes has got to be the absolute low end of anything you could ever buy.

do you know what AVERAGE STREET PRICE is ?? do you know what an average is ?

Originally posted by escorpio

A gram is 10,000 doses at 100 mikes per. One hundred mikes being an actual dose, not a weak hit of rip off acid.

well at least you can do basic math

Originally posted by escorpio

I'm not arguing that acid on a per gram basis is the most expensive drug available, but your figures are still way off. And on a per dose basis it's probably one of the cheapest drugs. You can get way higher on $4 worth of acid than anything else.

my figures are based on simple math .. 25 mikes is the avg dose , divide that by a million = 40k

You right though , you cant argue lsd' isn't the most expensive street drug by weight because it is..( so far )

Originally posted by escorpio

As for cocaine versus heroin...it depends on where you are but heroin is not WAY more expensive. They are pretty close.

this is true , its fairly close in areas with cut heroin , but in an area with pure heroin its more expensive. not a ton more , but more..

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04-17-2006, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by Vlad

Smokey keep on posting =)

people tell you from expirience , you obviously only heard about LSD on google

funny kid

Smokey's figures are a little off. You don't know what you're taking about when you say "LSD is easier to produce than cocaine." That's absurd.

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04-17-2006, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by dynastoned

lol man no need to get all crazy. now if you are into taking small doses sure you could make a killer profit and a ton of doses. but the way we did it was more around 200mg's not 25-50. so i guess it could go either way right?

how about 800 and up ?
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04-17-2006, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by dynastoned

lol man no need to get all crazy. now if you are into taking small doses sure you could make a killer profit and a ton of doses. but the way we did it was more around 200mg's not 25-50. so i guess it could go either way right?

i wasnt talking about profit because the thread didnt have anything to do with profit..

i was just referring to the most expensive drug by weight..

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04-17-2006, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by escorpio

Smokey's figures are a little off. You don't know what you're taking about when you say "LSD is easier to produce than cocaine." That's absurd.

exactly , and if you look at my original reply i didt state it as fact i said ( i THINK its a million ) i later revised that to between 40k and 400k , nothing mentioned has even come close to that figure yet.

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04-17-2006, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by escorpio

Smokey's figures are a little off. You don't know what you're taking about when you say "LSD is easier to produce than cocaine." That's absurd.

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04-17-2006, 09:18 AM

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The most expensive drug is, the one you get busted for

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04-17-2006, 09:20 AM

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04-17-2006, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by escorpio

Smokey's figures are a little off. You don't know what you're taking about when you say "LSD is easier to produce than cocaine." That's absurd.

There is LOTS of methods ot produce LSD

YOU can produce LSD at your kitchen , on your own

http://www.dataalchemy.com/txt/DRUGS/LSD.TXT.htm
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04-17-2006, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

so wikipedia is lying and your the expert ok.. bwaha

I'd say in this matter I have much more practical expertise than wikipedia, yeah. You think ten years in the scene that was the source for almost all the LSD in the U.S.A. and I have no idea what I'm talking about? All I'm saying is your $40,000 per gram figure is WAY off. Unless you've ever purchased LSD in quantity, you don't know what you're talking about, I don't care what the internet tells you.

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04-17-2006, 09:25 AM

and then sell it for $1mil/gram =))))) hahaha
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04-17-2006, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Vlad

http://www.neonjoint.com/drug_recipes/chapter1.html

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That's not easier than making cocaine. Cocaine is simply a series of washes.

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04-17-2006, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by escorpio

I'd say in this matter I have much more practical expertise than wikipedia, yeah. You think ten years in the scene that was the source for almost all the LSD in the U.S.A. and I have no idea what I'm talking about? All I'm saying is your $40,000 per gram figure is WAY off. Unless you've ever purchased LSD in quantity, you don't know what you're talking about, I don't care what the internet tells you.

by your own estimate of 100 mikes per gram = 10,000 hits , how much is that worth.. TODAY not 10 years ago.. we arent talking DEALER prices or i wouldn't have CLEARY STATED " STREET PRICE "

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04-17-2006, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by Vlad

There is LOTS of methods ot produce LSD

YOU can produce LSD at your kitchen , on your own

http://www.dataalchemy.com/txt/DRUGS/LSD.TXT.htm

Morning glory extract ain't REAL L.S.D. And it's not a practical method of manufacture. LSD takes a skilled chemist to produce. Cocaine does not.

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04-17-2006, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by escorpio

That's not easier than making cocaine. Cocaine is simply a series of washes.

NO

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04-17-2006, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by escorpio

Morning glory extract ain't REAL L.S.D. And it's not a practical method of manufacture. LSD takes a skilled chemist to produce. Cocaine does not.

prove it !
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04-17-2006, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

by your own estimate of 100 mikes per gram = 10,000 hits , how much is that worth.. TODAY not 10 years ago.. we arent talking DEALER prices or i wouldn't have CLEARY STATED " STREET PRICE "

I honestly couldn't answer that question because I've been out of the loop for a long time. Maybe it has risen by 10x, but I doubt it. Acid chemists and dealers are strange lot and greed was never one of their motivations. Maybe things have changed and I'm just an old Deadhead living in the past.

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04-17-2006, 09:31 AM

doing a bunch of acid at a dead concert 10 years ago doesnt make you an expert on drug prices today. ( im not claiming to be either just pointing out FACTS based on published EVIDENCE not hearsay based on memory )

it also doesnt make math suddenly change..

even by your own conservative 1960's lsd dose its still worth well over 40k at street level so.. until i see anything other than rhetoric. Maybe your caculator is on l.s.d.

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04-17-2006, 09:31 AM

i can't belive no one has said pussy yet. Every straight man wants it and there's a very limited supply of the googd pussy. Sometimes getting pussy for an hour will cost you a new car+
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04-17-2006, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Vlad

NO

you will a laboratory and chemican for it.

keep dreaming son , they make coke in the jungle , they make acid in a lab

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04-17-2006, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR

i can't belive no one has said pussy yet. Every straight man wants it and there's a very limited supply of the googd pussy. Sometimes getting pussy for an hour will cost you a new car+

hmm true that

like J-Lo for P.Diddy = $400 mil
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04-17-2006, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR

i can't belive no one has said pussy yet. Every straight man wants it and there's a very limited supply of the googd pussy. Sometimes getting pussy for an hour will cost you a new car+

it isn't illegal..

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04-17-2006, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

keep dreaming son , they make coke in the jungle , they make acid in a lab

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04-17-2006, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by Vlad

prove it !

Do your own fucking homework. Cocaine is produced by a series of soakings and dryings in various solutions including potash, kerosene, sulfuric acid, and ammonium hydroxide and a couple others I've forgotten. It is nowhere near as complex a process as LSD production.

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