Occash

[sublimed]

So these guys support is awful. Black Mother Fuckers retains at 2 rebills out of 25+ trials. Now after bitching at them and switching my links to no trials my ratio has went down the shitter and they cut my traffic somehow the last few days to top it off. I know for a fact because I have a top thumb still listed on a huge tgp and the traffic wouldn't just go away like this.

yeah they suck ass.

04/01/2006 1014 880 3 1:293 $7.44 Site, Program, Campaign
04/02/2006 1211 1074 2 1:537 $17.46 Site, Program, Campaign
04/03/2006 1432 1272 2 1:636 $17.46 Site, Program, Campaign
04/04/2006 1162 1056 2 1:528 $19.96 Site, Program, Campaign
04/05/2006 1201 1095 0 0:1095 $0.00 Site, Program, Campaign
04/06/2006 1325 1191 0 0:1191 $0.00 Site, Program, Campaign
04/07/2006 1063 941 1 1:941 $14.98 Site, Program, Campaign
04/08/2006 1088 980 3 1:326 $32.44 Site, Program, Campaign
04/09/2006 1027 924 2 1:462 $29.96 Site, Program, Campaign
04/10/2006 1223 1105 0 0:1105 $0.00 Site, Program, Campaign
04/11/2006 1172 1059 1 1:1059 $14.98 Site, Program, Campaign
04/12/2006 1234 1129 0 0:1129 $0.00 Site, Program, Campaign
04/13/2006 791 714 0 0:714 $0.00 Site, Program, Campaign
04/14/2006 370 332 0 0:332 $0.00 Site, Program, Campaign

[TheSenator]

Let me see your gallery

[TheSenator]

That is little traffic too.

[sublimed]

whats your icq

[Manowar]

0:1954

[sublimed]

I didn't say I had huge traffic but I have sent enough consistantly to know they are fucking crooked.

[V_RocKs]

Actually the cut traffic has to do with a server problem and so does the lack of support. They are all fixing the server problem... Which is most important since NO ONE GETS PAID WHEN THEY ARE NOT DOING TRANSACTIONS...

So it isn't just YOU, it is everyone for the last 2 days...

[MattO]

Idiot alert.

[sublimed]

Originally Posted by MattO

Idiot alert.

if that's directed towards me. fuck you beeeotch. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Tell me how long it took you to do 40 sales when you first started in this biz? I only started in mid March.

[HollywoodChris]

Originally Posted by sublimed

I didn't say I had huge traffic but I have sent enough consistantly to know they are fucking crooked.

Call me,

323-908-3589
Chris Stewart

[sublimed]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Actually the cut traffic has to do with a server problem and so does the lack of support. They are all fixing the server problem... Which is most important since NO ONE GETS PAID WHEN THEY ARE NOT DOING TRANSACTIONS...

So it isn't just YOU, it is everyone for the last 2 days...

Ok thanks for the info! knew something was dead wrong. my 404 traffic is 5x what my hits for occ. Appreciate your help.

[sublimed]

already talked to jay on the phone. I have icq'd you several times and never get a reply. I get discouraged and after having terrible ratios then watch my 404 traffic dwarf my traffic for the main sponsor im pushing, it set me off. Since I now know you guys are having issues I retract my statements. But you guys definately need to work on the support.

[bdld]

im getting about $14.48/join over the history of my account. used no trial half the time, then switched to trials afterwards. not too impressive but 2 of their sites convert amazingly well for me so thats why i keep on using them.

[V_RocKs]

Originally Posted by sublimed

if that's directed towards me. fuck you beeeotch. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Tell me how long it took you to do 40 sales when you first started in this biz? I only started in mid March.

Fourty sales? I am still trying...

That is a very nice pace! Keep it up!

Won't be long before you have that many in a day...

[HollywoodChris]

Originally Posted by sublimed

already talked to jay on the phone. I have icq'd you several times and never get a reply. I get discouraged and after having terrible ratios then watch my 404 traffic dwarf my traffic for the main sponsor im pushing, it set me off. Since I now know you guys are having issues I retract my statements. But you guys definately need to work on the support.

Bro, I have never received an ICQ from you and I'm the first guy here and the last guy to leave.

If your ICQ is not working - Call me. Mine works fine and has since 2000 and I'm always here to help.

Regards,

[sublimed]

Originally Posted by bdld

im getting about $14.48/join over the history of my account. used no trial half the time, then switched to trials afterwards. not too impressive but 2 of their sites convert amazingly well for me so thats why i keep on using them.

yeah it's too bad the trials don't convert for shit, but now that I switched to no trials my ratio sucks. oh well.. I see why people jump on the PPS sponsors now, atleast it's gauranteed money.

[TMM_John]

Originally Posted by HollywoodChris

Bro, I have never received an ICQ from you and I'm the first guy here and the last guy to leave.

If your ICQ is not working - Call me. Mine works fine and has since 2000 and I'm always here to help.

Regards,

Be careful, the last time I told someone to call if they can't reach us on ICQ I got ripped for it.

re: occash, they are some of the most stand up and hands on guys I've met in the business. To come on here and accuse them of not caring about their affiliates is absurd let alone accuse them of stealing.

People need to stop thinking they can put one toe in this business and run around saying whatever they want about whoever they want.

[sublimed]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Fourty sales? I am still trying...

That is a very nice pace! Keep it up!

Won't be long before you have that many in a day...

thanks man! hopefully within a year I'll be there.


Chris, my ICQ works fine. I talk daily with 30+ people on ICQ. no problems other than url filtering here and there. Guess my ICQ's to you got lost in the matrix.

[sublimed]

Be careful, the last time I told someone to call if they can't reach us on ICQ I got ripped for it.

re: occash, they are some of the most stand up and hands on guys I've met in the business. To come on here and accuse them of not caring about their affiliates is absurd let alone accuse them of stealing.

People need to stop thinking they can put one toe in this business and run around saying whatever they want about whoever they want.

Why because they run your software? You don't know me or what I have been through. A simple email on their part to the affiliates would of been nice. I wouldn't of made this post if I had been able to contact them in the last 2 days.

I can't come here and post the honest truth of what I have experienced without someone telling me what I should and shouldn't say. get fucking real.

[TMM_John]

Originally Posted by sublimed

Why because they run your software? You don't know me or what I have been through. A simple email on their part to the affiliates would of been nice. I wouldn't of made this post if I had been able to contact them in the last 2 days.

I can't come here and post the honest truth of what I have experienced without someone telling me what I should and shouldn't say. get fucking real.

I'm willing to back up those who I know and trust whether they use my software or not. I make judgement calls on people, not on the business they do with me.

You accused them of stealing from you. Thats not posting the "honest truth".

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Actually the cut traffic has to do with a server problem and so does the lack of support. They are all fixing the server problem... Which is most important since NO ONE GETS PAID WHEN THEY ARE NOT DOING TRANSACTIONS...

So it isn't just YOU, it is everyone for the last 2 days...

Yes, for program owners that are looking at this thread...there is an exploit in PHP Smarty that makes NATS vunerable. I you are using an older version of Smarty...please make sure you upgrade it.

[Abyss_Vee]

we convert great with oc cash....

[xxxjay]

OK Ryan,

I can?t even believe I am wasting my time with this for a litany of reasons:

1. Chris and I both spoke to you on ICQ and returned all of your emails. It got to the point where none of this seemed to be getting through to you so I invited you to call me. We had a half hour chat and I thought everything was hunky-dory. During our conversation it was established:

A. You convert pretty well with us (you still do 1:721 ? pretty good for TGP traffic)
B. You had some concerns about rebills.

I looked up your account and saw that you first started sending traffic at the 21st of last month MEANING THE THERE IS NO WAY YOU COULD EVEN SEE A REBILL UNTIL THE 21ST OF THIS MONTH. It?s the 14th right now, just in case you need to set your watch.

2. I gave you a free password to the members area so you could see that we were not a ?scam?.

3. You yourself even admitted that you?ve only been in this business for a month and a half, as in evidenced by your postings.

4. Find one other major program owner that will spend time with a newbie affiliate the concept of a rebill!!!! Say what you want about my board persona ? I?ve made millions of dollars promoting other programs BEFORE I ever started my own. Believe it or not, I empathize with the plight of the newbie / smaller webmaster. I was one myself 8 years ago.

5. On the topic of scams: We use NATS, which is 3rd party propriety ? we DO NOT have access to the source code to cheat you out of joins?even if we wanted to?which we don?t.

So Ryan?the long and short of it is this. You?ve sent 39 sales that started on the 21st and many of them were full joins and quite a few converted to full. ON THE 21ST OF THIS MONTH you will start to see rebills?do you get it yet? When you promote a revshare, you need to do it over a long period of time and build up a good base of rebills?then weather you send traffic or not?you keep on getting money! There is a concept I?m sure you won?t flame on GFY about.

OK, I?ve been a diplomatic program owner?.Ryan, if you want to keep going with this nonsense I am going to turn into XXXJAY and drag you ass so bad of GFY that you will feel so low you will need a parachute to jump off a dime.

Questions, comment, insult or apologies can be addressed to:
[email protected] / icq 62835707 / 323-845-9350

[Ice]

Originally Posted by sublimed

Chris, my ICQ works fine. I talk daily with 30+ people on ICQ. no problems other than url filtering here and there. Guess my ICQ's to you got lost in the matrix.

I never have a problem getting Chris on icq

[SomeCreep]

I've never had any problems with Occash support. With me, Jay or Chris have always been very prompt with their replies.

[woj]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I looked up your account and saw that you first started sending traffic at the 21st of last month MEANING THE THERE IS NO WAY YOU COULD EVEN SEE A REBILL UNTIL THE 21ST OF THIS MONTH. It?s the 14th right now, just in case you need to set your watch.

wow, I think sublimed needs to be nominated for the idiot award of the year...

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by sublimed

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

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[xxxjay]

Somebody told me it was white boy day.

[sublimed]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

OK Ryan,

I can?t even believe I am wasting my time with this for a litany of reasons:

1. Chris and I both spoke to you on ICQ and returned all of your emails. It got to the point where none of this seemed to be getting through to you so I invited you to call me. We had a half hour chat and I thought everything was hunky-dory. During our conversation it was established:

A. You convert pretty well with us (you still do 1:721 ? pretty good for TGP traffic)
B. You had some concerns about rebills.

I looked up your account and saw that you first started sending traffic at the 21st of last month MEANING THE THERE IS NO WAY YOU COULD EVEN SEE A REBILL UNTIL THE 21ST OF THIS MONTH. It?s the 14th right now, just in case you need to set your watch.

2. I gave you a free password to the members area so you could see that we were not a ?scam?.

3. You yourself even admitted that you?ve only been in this business for a month and a half, as in evidenced by your postings.

4. Find one other major program owner that will spend time with a newbie affiliate the concept of a rebill!!!! Say what you want about my board persona ? I?ve made millions of dollars promoting other programs BEFORE I ever started my own. Believe it or not, I empathize with the plight of the newbie / smaller webmaster. I was one myself 8 years ago.

5. On the topic of scams: We use NATS, which is 3rd party propriety ? we DO NOT have access to the source code to cheat you out of joins?even if we wanted to?which we don?t.

So Ryan?the long and short of it is this. You?ve sent 39 sales that started on the 21st and many of them were full joins and quite a few converted to full. ON THE 21ST OF THIS MONTH you will start to see rebills?do you get it yet? When you promote a revshare, you need to do it over a long period of time and build up a good base of rebills?then weather you send traffic or not?you keep on getting money! There is a concept I?m sure you won?t flame on GFY about.

OK, I?ve been a diplomatic program owner?.Ryan, if you want to keep going with this nonsense I am going to turn into XXXJAY and drag you ass so bad of GFY that you will feel so low you will need a parachute to jump off a dime.

Questions, comment, insult or apologies can be addressed to:
[email protected] / icq 62835707 / 323-845-9350

Ok Jay, fair enough. I tried to contact Chris and had problems getting in touch with him the last few days. I jumped the gun posting here, I let frustration take over. I apologize for not contacting you first and asking you what was up. Sorry for any bad things I said about your company as you have taken the time to explain and talk to me about all of my concerns once I have got in contact with you. I will keep sending traffic and hope for better days ahead.

Have a good weekend!

[RRRED]

Awwww... lol

[sublimed]

Originally Posted by woj

wow, I think sublimed needs to be nominated for the idiot award of the year...

if you have 20+ trials and only 2 convert to full month joins, would you call that good? please enlighten me genius. the only thing I have noticed since I have read this board is you posting in every 49th post thread, get a life!

[sublimed]

Originally Posted by RRRED

Awwww... lol

yeah, I'm trying to make it right, but what's done is done. I have learned my lesson. Can't do much more than apologize and learn from my mistakes.

[RRRED]

Originally Posted by sublimed

yeah, I'm trying to make it right, but what's done is done. I have learned my lesson. Can't do much more than apologize and learn from my mistakes.

You're doing fine especially for being so new. Would you mind icqing me? If and when you have time..

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by RRRED

You're doing fine especially for being so new. Would you mind icqing me? If and when you have time..

Damn...nice form, stealing our webmasters in our thread.

Nice going.

[HollywoodChris]

Originally Posted by RRRED

You're doing fine especially for being so new. Would you mind icqing me? If and when you have time..

RRRED, you are doing especially well for being so new. Please ICQ me when you get a chance or when you have time.

Thanks,
Chris

[RRRED]

Haha oh jeez you know better than that! I send you webmasters here and there all the time. You know that...

I just wanted to ask him where he was buying his traffic and who was helping him out.

[Martin]

naw occ is alright

[RRRED]

Chris I have only one thing to say to you! But I'll say it later...

[HollywoodChris]

Originally Posted by RRRED

Haha oh jeez you know better than that! I send you webmasters here and there all the time. You know that...

I just wanted to ask him where he was buying his traffic and who was helping him out.

I can tell you where the traffic comes from but it will cost you 25 joins tomorrow.

[RRRED]

Originally Posted by HollywoodChris

I can tell you where the traffic comes from but it will cost you 25 joins tomorrow.

Haha.. I already found out... cuz I'm slyyyyyyy Plus I already sent you joins.. Let's see how many you've sent.. Oh look! Zero.

[HollywoodChris]

Originally Posted by RRRED

Haha.. I already found out... cuz I'm slyyyyyyy Plus I already sent you joins.. Let's see how many you've sent.. Oh look! Zero.

I would but I cant get ahold of your affiliate support. LOL

[RRRED]

Originally Posted by HollywoodChris

I would but I cant get ahold of your affiliate support. LOL

Hahaha you ass!!

That's ok I grabbed your affiliate list while I was hacking your servers earlier today.

[HollywoodChris]

Originally Posted by RRRED

Hahaha you ass!!

That's ok I grabbed your affiliate list while I was hacking your servers earlier today.

Thats cool, hey, I need some things cleaned around my house if you need some extra cash...lol

[Morgan]

get a room

[Love Sex]

This amused me..
what do think will happen when the check is 2 months late.

[brentschn]

I've noticed in the past that their galleries are slow to load sometimes. They did however recently update their galleries, but most of the sights content hasn't changed in the past 2 to 3 years since I've been marketing them.

[cranki]

OCCash roxxxxxxxxxxxxxx! Their support is awesome