Do you trust BIG Players?

[TheFLY]

$50/trial sounds good -- but who is getting checks from them...?

Please expound so I can sign up under your ass...

[theWatsonian]

Enlighten us.

[Fletch XXX]

Never trusted anyone who "payed" me.

[payrollpete]

yes they pay.

i have been paid by the owners of this company since like 1996.

they pay and always have, very fair and nice guys.

and we never got cut small cheques

they wire us every month for traffic as well.

[payrollpete]

not to mention the backers of big players are all multi-millionaires

i think besides JoeE and ron levy and a few others, they are the richest.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by payrollpete
not to mention the backers of big players are all multi-millionaires

i think besides JoeE and ron levy and a few others, they are the richest.

Never kid yourself by believing rich people got rich by being angels.

Some of the most dishonest people I know in my life, are also the richest.

[SleazyDream]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Never kid yourself by believing rich people got rich by being angels.

Some of the most dishonest people I know in my life, are also the richest.

Sad that you think like that. Real sad.

[payrollpete]

nah man

these guys have been in bizz longer then most of the people on this board, and they have been around this long because they always pay, and play honest.

thats how you stay hot in this bizz.

they have probably paid out like $50mil + over the yrs

[payrollpete]

infact,

i heard something about if you push like 50 signups a month for 3 months, they will fly you out to "Bali" to party every 3 months.

private island, with all the girls - booze - private chef / food you can get down on...

you should ask them about it

[TheFLY]

A trip to Bali sounds nice.... but Pete you make it sound like there's some secrecy as to who we are dealing with...? Who are they?

[payrollpete]

the ultimate porn lord.

let's leave it at that

the rulers of this bizz know who owns the program, or can figure it out hehe...

[payrollpete]

go to oprano if you need to talk to them

speak to timon

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by SleazyDream


Sad that you think like that. Real sad.

Ive worked for one of the biggest names in this industry and I call it as I see it. I wasnt referring to every business man in America, I was speaking more of this Industry...I dont trust many people, especially "The Man."

There aint nothing wrong with being cautious and watching the fuckers who control the money, but not the game.

Coming from Catholic school I dont trust priests, coming from the ghetto I dont trust cops, and since ive worked in this Industry longer than any other in my life, I dont trust the big dogs either.

Maybe the Canadian Porn companies are angels, but her in SoCal its cut throat.

Again, I only speak of the people I know in real life.

[Fletch XXX]

Sleazy, in addition, I own stocks from many inside crooked porn czars making deals, so maybe running a tgp aint a crooked game, but I am talking about the real fucking Industry.

Im talking about pimps, and fucking model agency people who run their game out here like the fucking mafia, you wouldnt know, and I wouldnt expect you to.

[payrollpete]

you must know starnet steve then

hes a good friend

[Kimmykim]

Cashcow and teenclicks.net

[payrollpete]

KK is still off by a few other programs

[Hooper]

it's pretty clear that intergal owns it.

[payrollpete]

hooper

nope not even close

[Hooper]

whoops.. sorry.. was thinking of crocodilecash

[Hooper]

dont tend to trust those who arent up front.... just ask bernard.

[Wiredoctor]

Originally posted by payrollpete
hooper

nope not even close

Why all the games??..save us all some time consuming detective work, if you know who they are just say so..and tell us all?

[payrollpete]

nah

i wonder if signs signs signs is cutting the cheques for big players

[TheFLY]

ok so enough smokescreen -- just straight answers please...

Who gets checks from BIG Players... I'm still waiting...

?

[payrollpete]

a good method to find out if a program pays is send a few signups and wait for a cheque or wire...

i've always done that before going full blast with a program.

[payrollpete]

probably none yet thefly

they are 1 and a half weeks new i think now

and they pay out bi-weekly

[Hooper]

well if scourge orhpano is invoved then you can be SURE that we wont do business with them.

[payrollpete]

i never implyed serge was involved

you jump the gun too much hooper

[Shooter]

Sent them a couple this period.

Will let you know if I get a check or not. I'm not too worried though.

[Wiredoctor]

Originally posted by payrollpete
a good method to find out if a program pays is send a few signups and wait for a cheque or wire...

i've always done that before going full blast with a program.

OK well thanks for your totally worthless help here. You really don't need to comment anymore unless it's going to be helpfull.

TheFly I also would like an answer so if you here anything useful let us know.

[Hooper]

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you jump the gun too much hooper
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http://www.letterhead.com/profiles/serge/

[TheFLY]

i'm tired of feeding a little traffic here and there -- that's bullshit... if nobody I know is making money w/ it -- it's no good.

I'm glad it's not intergal because they fucked me many years ago and I'm still pissed...

[payrollpete]

you would also know serge doses not run signs signs signs anymore, john does...for awhile now.

not to mention, signs signs signs cut cheques and other payments for many, MANY, webmaster programs owned by many different people.

[payrollpete]

thefly it is not intergal

anyways
don't worry man, they pay and it's all good

you can hold me to that
i trust the owners of the program and know them personaly and do lots of bizz with them so...

[Hooper]

I've got an invoice from serge & signs signs signs that says otherwise...

Just another reason to distrust it dude... wont say who owns it... trying to play corporate shenanigans....

Same fucker that tried to bill me for nonexistant ad deals is writing their checks???

hahahaha... yeah.. i would say that that the next person to post is Korbin Street... whoops.. i mean.. Mr. Korbin

[payrollpete]

your assuming things

that makes you look stupid

i thought serge taught you to be a better boy then this? a smarter one?

[Hooper]

hahaha.. you should truly go fuck yourself.

i make more in a day than you make in a year, boy.

serge taught me one thing... that is to avoid doing business with serge because he will (as history has shown) shoot himself & everybody he does business with in the foot.

the "signs signs signs" are everywhere that "big players" is run by some "small fish" with some "big secrets"

[payrollpete]

"i make more in a day than you make in a year, boy."

please don't get cocky hooper, it's so easy to stick a cock in yer mouth and shut you up LOL

i still find it amusing you accuse these guys of serge having something to do with their business.

[payrollpete]

you let your jealousy for other peoples well built programs take over and then just turn into an idiot

when you plan to get that fixed?

[Kimmykim]

Originally posted by payrollpete
KK is still off by a few other programs

Um, yeah, that was a different Timon that owned those programs right?

You and your silly posts kissing certain ass are way too funny.

[payrollpete]

hah

i don't need to kiss ass

i already am getting paid (non ass kissing)

i like to give props to good honest paying companies, thats all.

[Hooper]

I doubt visa appreciates you burying your adult charges behind non-adult fronts like jumbomall timon. and *you* are the one who brought up serge & company.

[Steve]

I'd say Timon is the front. I bet it's the Aussie poobah, Scott PB who's the real muscle of that program. The guy IS super rich, indeed. I thought he was retired, and studied his Kung Fu, and did charity. Maybe Luke Ford was wrong? hahaha And since he fell off the face of the Earth after Traffic Inc, I would not be shocked if Prophet 8 was somehow involved. That was a fun bunch in the old days, maybe they broke out the old saddles, oiled them up good, and decided to go for another ride. Yee Haw!

[payrollpete]

You know how IBILL survives...

they have a ton of non-adult customers, and they mix it in with their high risk / adult transactions, thus for balancing it out.

This is how you stay in business when you do your own billing.

And no i am not for timon, nor am speaking for him, like i said, i am just giving props, he is my friend, and his program is great and i have always made bank with him, his partners, and their programs / deals.

[Steve]

I know how iBill went into the black hole due to excessive spamming by a Company From Down Under, mate

All us poor Yank fucks had to hold our dicks wondering if we were gonna lose our rebills

Who does the processing for Big Players?

[payrollpete]

steve

i do miss prophet8. he was really a good guy. unfortunatley like you said, traffic inc. flopped and caused alot of problems and hate.

but no, prophet8 is doing his own thing and is not involved with big players. i haven't talked to him in a year or more...

from what timon and i talked about a few weeks ago, they see him at the clubs sometimes thats about it...strip clubs...prophet has addiction to australian strippers

[TheFLY]

damn I opened a huge can o worms.

[payrollpete]

i don't work for bigplayers

you ask if they pay

i said yes

LOL

[payrollpete]

anyways nuff said

if you aren't smart enough to jump on the train and make some decent cash, then don't, simple as that.

your loss.

laters

[LoveAsianChicks]

I suggest you don't jump on the "train".
Remember Jimmybucks - the early birds on that program got burned bad.

BigPlayers might be run by rich people but that means shit. A rich person is as likely to rip someone off as anyone else.

I joined BigPlayers and my plan is send 2-3 signups and wait for a check.
If I get paid then its time to send them more traffic.

I like to believe everyone is honest but that is just naive. Take it slow with any new sponsor at first.

This post might sound anti-bigplayers but it isn't. I just think its foolish to blindly rush into a new program which has only been open 1.5 weeks.