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seven 04-14-2006 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
I hate to break it to you, but it's been at least 75 years since the US was the land of free immigration. We are now one of the most difficult countries in the world to become a citizen of.

The concepts this country was founded upon couldn't last forever. Looks like your friends in Mexico are about a century too late.

Sorry to break it to you but it's been only 41 years since any immigration legis first formed and about 32 years since they were actually enforced. Because it's the most diff country to become a citizen of, the mexs maybe thinking oh wtf lets just be illegals which is easier lol.

The concepts this country was founded upon couldn't last forever true (better not last too long or there could be more land grabbings from natives and mexicans lol) but surely could last for many more years. There are still much room to grow. Don't be jealous cause you were here first give noobs a chance too :winkwink: illegal mexicans here only hurting the high-school dropouts but benefitting rest http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12208037/ Fellow Americans or not I have no sympathy for that group that can't better their life given all the american opportunities. If we have to deport anybody that should be them.

I do not have any Mexican friend, colleague, acquintance or anything. Not a single one, don't know any mexican whatsoever, nada (however, sometimes I see some mexicans serving me at mexican restaurants if that counts lol). I just don't like to be a hypocrite like some of you that's all :winkwink:

seven 04-14-2006 08:54 AM

shit i beat woj. wow!

psili 04-14-2006 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio
Translation - upon reconsideration I thought better than to differ with the omniscient escorpio.

lol.

Nah. I just felt my post was too cruel, albeit true.

Basically, in the natural world, any group in an ecosystem that can't sustain itself (overpopulation / disease / poor management of resources / etc) usually expires. This doesn't seem to happen in human groups, however, which I sometimes think is very un-natural and not good. -- see, that's cruel to think like that, isn't it?

pornguy 04-14-2006 08:58 AM

Why is it that illegals= Mexicans???? I will grant you that a majority of them are, but I would venture to say that at least 1/4 of them are from other countries.

Do you have any idea how many people come into the US from Europe ever day with fake papers? That makes them illegals.

seven 04-14-2006 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica
Ok, I've tried to avoid this topic. I'm leaving the US anyway, and I'm a citizen. Born here. Anyway...native Indian's never owned this coutnry. They didn't even have a word for land ownership, much less real estate. So since they didn't own it, my ancestors claimed it. Boo hoo, too fucking bad. It's the way of the world. Has been for centuries.

LMFAO. You are too funny man! Thanks for the good laugh :thumbsup but i realize you are serious when you say: "Boo hoo, too fucking bad. It's the way of the world. Has been for centuries". Thanks for standing up for the Joses :upsidedow

G-Rotica 04-14-2006 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio
Looks like the Mexicans are reclaiming the southwest. Boo hoo, too fucking bad. It's the way of the world. Has been for centuries.

:1orglaugh

They aren't reclaiming shit. They are crossing the borders illegally. You want to reclaim the southwest? Get your army together and let's dance.

Until you can claim you beat the US in a war, as long as you are in the US, fly the US flag, follow US laws.

escorpio 04-14-2006 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by psili
lol.

Nah. I just felt my post was too cruel, albeit true.

Basically, in the natural world, any group in an ecosystem that can't sustain itself (overpopulation / disease / poor management of resources / etc) usually expires. This doesn't seem to happen in human groups, however, which I sometimes think is very un-natural and not good. -- see, that's cruel to think like that, isn't it?

Sounds like what's happening in Africa.

escorpio 04-14-2006 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica
They aren't reclaiming shit. They are crossing the borders illegally. You want to reclaim the southwest? Get your army together and let's dance.

Until you can claim you beat the US in a war, as long as you are in the US, fly the US flag, follow US laws.

:1orglaugh Silly gringo thinks the only way to take over a country is with armed force. Gonna take it without an army, without shots being fired. It's called the Silent Reclamation and it's happening right now. Welcome to history being made.

Learn some spanish! Your kids are gonna need it.

seven 04-14-2006 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by seven
I do not have any Mexican friend, colleague, acquintance or anything. Not a single one, don't know any mexican whatsoever, nada (however, sometimes I see some mexicans serving me at mexican restaurants if that counts lol). I just don't like to be a hypocrite like some of you that's all :winkwink:

Shit! I lied. My sister-in-law (itallian), has a friend (itallian), who has a friend (itallian) married to a mexican therefore I do know a mexican YAY! :thumbsup

G-Rotica 04-14-2006 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio
:1orglaugh Silly gringo thinks the only way to take over a country is with armed force. Gonna take it without an army, without shots being fired. It's called the Silent Reclamation and it's happening right now. Welcome to history being made.

Learn some spanish! Your kids are gonna need it.

Do you really think the Bubu Brigade is really going to sit around and let it happen? At some point every redneck in Texas is going to get fed up and then the shit will hit the fan.

seven 04-14-2006 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio
Silly gringo thinks the only way to take over a country is with armed force. Gonna take it without an army, without shots being fired. It's called the Silent Reclamation and it's happening right now. Welcome to history being made.

Learn some spanish! Your kids are gonna need it.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Dang! I hate when customer services start speaking in spanish with me out of the blue when I press a wrong button by mistake on the phone lol.

escorpio 04-14-2006 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica
Do you really think the Bubu Brigade is really going to sit around and let it happen? At some point every redneck in Texas is going to get fed up and then the shit will hit the fan.

I don't know what the Bubu Brigade is but it's too late for them.

G-Rotica 04-14-2006 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio
I don't know what the Bubu Brigade is but it's too late for them.

Trailer parks are actually barracks for the Bubu Brigade. They are spread out all over the country.

escorpio 04-14-2006 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica
Trailer parks are actually barracks for the Bubu Brigade. They are spread out all over the country.

Wait...you're trying to spell "Bubba" aren't you? :1orglaugh

Get off the computer and go play banjo on the porch with your brother/cousin.

G-Rotica 04-14-2006 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio
Wait...you're trying to spell "Bubba" aren't you? :1orglaugh

Get off the computer and go play banjo on the porch with your brother/cousin.

Well I don't hang with Bubu or Bubba, so I'm not sure how to spell it. But it seems you're pretty sure of it.

steffie 04-14-2006 09:49 AM

My 2 cents since I live about 1 mile from the border

1 - Our school here are all bi-lingual - if you as a teacher don't speak spanish, don't apply
2 - You must be bi-lingual to get any job where I live
3 - Highschool Graduation will be in Spanish starting next year
4 - We now have 50% of our classes in spanish and english
5 - If you are a doctor where we live you must offer a spanish speaking employee or lose your insurance. Right now this is volunteer in our state but they are looking to make it mandatory
6 - Our Insurance is the highest in the country, due to the fact of so many uninsured mexicans having accidents and no insurance when they come over the border
7 - I went to a College Day in our school and they had a speaker in spanish and a speaker in English just for the College Application
8 - Almost every day young women are found dead in the desert, either Mexican girls or US Girls - Murder, Violence and Child Abuse are one of the highest in the country
9 - We have the highest teenage pregnancy rate and highest dropout rate
10 - Our schools are on the buttom 3 in the Nation

and let me tell you since you all think those poor mexicans who are here illegal don't get paid much

Tile Layer - Illegal - Get 10 bucks per hour
Construction Worker - Illegal - Get 8 to 15 bucks per hour
Carpenters Frame and Custom get 20 bucks per hour
Plumper - Electrician - Get 20 bucks per hour
thats all cash by the way!

I deal with the above almost daily, I know what I pay!

For the past year I have tried to find english speaking workers! The contractors speak english however 99% of their workers don't. I am now taking classes in Spanish just to be able to speak to the locals.

I am in favour of returning Illegals to their country or origin. Let them apply legally to come into this country. Even in WW2 when most Jewish came to the USA they had to register. Irish had to register, Somalians are all coming thru the Seattle area and have to register.

If you come into the country and work here and want to live here you should register at least, so you pay taxes.

The first thing illegals do in our state is get pregnant and have babies born in the USA, thats an automated in.

Right now Hillary Clinton wants to offer scholarships for illegal immegrants. How about a scholarship for one of my kids?? Oh wait we don't qualify, were white and americans..

Look you can argue about this issue all day long, your not going to stop it. Instead of putting them to jail, they should be send back, period. It doesn't matter what country you are from. If you are here illegal and youre caught doing something wrong, anything, and youre caught. The first place should be back to your country and not our jails!

Want to guess which state I live in?

escorpio 04-14-2006 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steffie
My 2 cents since I live about 1 mile from the border

1 - Our school here are all bi-lingual - if you as a teacher don't speak spanish, don't apply
2 - You must be bi-lingual to get any job where I live
3 - Highschool Graduation will be in Spanish starting next year
4 - We now have 50% of our classes in spanish and english
5 - If you are a doctor where we live you must offer a spanish speaking employee or lose your insurance. Right now this is volunteer in our state but they are looking to make it mandatory
6 - Our Insurance is the highest in the country, due to the fact of so many uninsured mexicans having accidents and no insurance when they come over the border
7 - I went to a College Day in our school and they had a speaker in spanish and a speaker in English just for the College Application
8 - Almost every day young women are found dead in the desert, either Mexican girls or US Girls - Murder, Violence and Child Abuse are one of the highest in the country
9 - We have the highest teenage pregnancy rate and highest dropout rate
10 - Our schools are on the buttom 3 in the Nation

and let me tell you since you all think those poor mexicans who are here illegal don't get paid much

Tile Layer - Illegal - Get 10 bucks per hour
Construction Worker - Illegal - Get 8 to 15 bucks per hour
Carpenters Frame and Custom get 20 bucks per hour
Plumper - Electrician - Get 20 bucks per hour
thats all cash by the way!

I deal with the above almost daily, I know what I pay!

For the past year I have tried to find english speaking workers! The contractors speak english however 99% of their workers don't. I am now taking classes in Spanish just to be able to speak to the locals.

I am in favour of returning Illegals to their country or origin. Let them apply legally to come into this country. Even in WW2 when most Jewish came to the USA they had to register. Irish had to register, Somalians are all coming thru the Seattle area and have to register.

If you come into the country and work here and want to live here you should register at least, so you pay taxes.

The first thing illegals do in our state is get pregnant and have babies born in the USA, thats an automated in.

Right now Hillary Clinton wants to offer scholarships for illegal immegrants. How about a scholarship for one of my kids?? Oh wait we don't qualify, were white and americans..

Look you can argue about this issue all day long, your not going to stop it. Instead of putting them to jail, they should be send back, period. It doesn't matter what country you are from. If you are here illegal and youre caught doing something wrong, anything, and youre caught. The first place should be back to your country and not our jails!

Want to guess which state I live in?

You sound like a Texan.

steffie 04-14-2006 10:01 AM

Close but not right

Here is a clue -

http://www.mad4cash.com/border.jpg

Highschool Students burned the American Flag last week for a demonstration
We won the Private Space Station Program
We have White Sand in the desert
We have one of the largest NASA and defense bases here from all over the world including Canada and Germany

xoxoxo

seven 04-14-2006 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steffie
My 2 cents since I live about 1 mile from the border

1 - Our school here are all bi-lingual - if you as a teacher don't speak spanish, don't apply
2 - You must be bi-lingual to get any job where I live
3 - Highschool Graduation will be in Spanish starting next year
4 - We now have 50% of our classes in spanish and english
5 - If you are a doctor where we live you must offer a spanish speaking employee or lose your insurance. Right now this is volunteer in our state but they are looking to make it mandatory
6 - Our Insurance is the highest in the country, due to the fact of so many uninsured mexicans having accidents and no insurance when they come over the border
7 - I went to a College Day in our school and they had a speaker in spanish and a speaker in English just for the College Application
8 - Almost every day young women are found dead in the desert, either Mexican girls or US Girls - Murder, Violence and Child Abuse are one of the highest in the country
9 - We have the highest teenage pregnancy rate and highest dropout rate
10 - Our schools are on the buttom 3 in the Nation

and let me tell you since you all think those poor mexicans who are here illegal don't get paid much

Tile Layer - Illegal - Get 10 bucks per hour
Construction Worker - Illegal - Get 8 to 15 bucks per hour
Carpenters Frame and Custom get 20 bucks per hour
Plumper - Electrician - Get 20 bucks per hour
thats all cash by the way!

I deal with the above almost daily, I know what I pay!

For the past year I have tried to find english speaking workers! The contractors speak english however 99% of their workers don't. I am now taking classes in Spanish just to be able to speak to the locals.

I am in favour of returning Illegals to their country or origin. Let them apply legally to come into this country. Even in WW2 when most Jewish came to the USA they had to register. Irish had to register, Somalians are all coming thru the Seattle area and have to register.

If you come into the country and work here and want to live here you should register at least, so you pay taxes.

The first thing illegals do in our state is get pregnant and have babies born in the USA, thats an automated in.

Right now Hillary Clinton wants to offer scholarships for illegal immegrants. How about a scholarship for one of my kids?? Oh wait we don't qualify, were white and americans..

Look you can argue about this issue all day long, your not going to stop it. Instead of putting them to jail, they should be send back, period. It doesn't matter what country you are from. If you are here illegal and youre caught doing something wrong, anything, and youre caught. The first place should be back to your country and not our jails!

Want to guess which state I live in?

That's what the gov is working on.. getting these guys registered so they pay taxes. And oh if illegals are caught doing something wrong they are deported back to the country of origin already. You should move out of wherever you are now cos it sounds like an illegal ghetto area where you're living. Also consider moving to a decent area as opposed to regular ghettos or you'll again be troubled by thugs and criminals.

V_RocKs 04-14-2006 10:20 AM

Any illegal who can get on CNN should be giving full US status...

The others should be given a game show to obtain the same deal...

But losers should be given a swift kick in the ass on their way out.

escorpio 04-14-2006 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steffie
Close but not right

Here is a clue -

http://www.mad4cash.com/border.jpg

Highschool Students burned the American Flag last week for a demonstration
We won the Private Space Station Program
We have White Sand in the desert
We have one of the largest NASA and defense bases here from all over the world including Canada and Germany

xoxoxo

New Mexico is the last state I would have guessed. Why would you live in a place called NEW MEXICO a mile from the line with your issues?

steffie 04-14-2006 11:22 AM

Personal reasons why we moved here, the weather is great, the house prices are still good.. That's about it..

Martin3 04-14-2006 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by seven
...And oh if illegals are caught doing something wrong they are deported back to the country of origin already. ...

Actually they're not deported and that's the problem.
When an illegal gets arrested for something, because of the laws we have now, they most be treated the same way as anyone else. That means charged with a crime, booked, and a bail set.

Local and state officials have to call fedral immigration officials to come and pick up the illegals.... but they very rarely show up when called. Or they show up way to late they the illegal is already bailed out of jail, and got himself a new id and alias to go by. Local officials have no authority to detain an illegals longer then necessary, if bail is posted they have to release them.

In my younger days I worked construction and have spent a few nights in jail for petty stuff. Trust me when I say I've seen it all first hand.

escorpio 04-14-2006 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica
Well I don't hang with Bubu or Bubba, so I'm not sure how to spell it. But it seems you're pretty sure of it.

You don't have to hang with Bubba to be able to spell it. I don't hang with you and I can spell ILLITERATE.

seven 04-14-2006 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin3
Local and state officials have to call fedral immigration officials to come and pick up the illegals.... but they very rarely show up when called. Or they show up way to late they the illegal is already bailed out of jail, and got himself a new id and alias to go by. Local officials have no authority to detain an illegals longer then necessary, if bail is posted they have to release them.

I've seen illegals (just one more time, no, mexicans aren't the only illegals in this country) getting caught and deported first hand actually was an everyday story. I used to work parttime in summers at a police station as a file clerk while going to college.


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