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Old 04-11-2006, 11:58 AM   #1
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UFC 59 Reality Check

So who is your pick, Tito Ortiz or Forrest Griffin? I gotta go with Tito Ortiz.
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Old 04-11-2006, 12:00 PM   #2
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Tito is gonna take it.
However I would love to see Forrest shut his big mouth for him.

I can't wait until this event....gonna be fucking insane!
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Yeah, it's Saturday. Did you guys see who's fighting in UFC 60? Matt Hughes vs. Royce Gracie! Crazy!
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Yeah, it's Saturday. Did you guys see who's fighting in UFC 60? Matt Hughes vs. Royce Gracie! Crazy!
I'm not sure what to think about that one ... Gracie maybe past his prime ..but he just needs one submission and it's over ..
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Old 04-11-2006, 12:09 PM   #7
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Tito will win, he hasn't fought forever though. I'll be watching saturday night
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Tito is gonna take it.
However I would love to see Forrest shut his big mouth for him.

I can't wait until this event....gonna be fucking insane!

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Tito is WAY to experienced for Forrest, but I would LOVE to see Forrest pull off the MONSTER upset!!

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Brandon what's up bro!!!! Tito's got this one!
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Ortiz is gonna kick Griffin's Ass.
I admit he did well in the fight with Bonnar but he is no match for Ortiz.
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Well Ortiz is training hard of Shamrock so that can be good/bad - good, because he'll be in prime shape, bad because he may not be focused enough. I'm going on a limb and taking Forrest .. if it doesn't go to the ground much.
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don't be too hasty, always remember the rule of "any given sunday". Although I believe Tito will win it. He has too, he has way more to lose than Forrest. If Forrest loses this he's still a new developing fighter with a big future. If Tito loses this he's washed up.
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Tito is WAY to experienced for Forrest, but I would LOVE to see Forrest pull off the MONSTER upset!!

completely agree.

more so, I can't wait til Shamrock gets another crack at him in July
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What I'm interested in watching is Arlovski knocking Sylvia on his ass. Again.
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What I'm interested in watching is Arlovski knocking Sylvia on his ass. Again.
now thats gonna be a hell of a fight.
Arlovski will win it IMHO but Sylvia will throw some bombs.

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What I'm interested in watching is Arlovski knocking Sylvia on his ass. Again.
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Ok, so it's Tito this Saturday. How about when he fights Shamrock again? Do you think Shamrock is washed up?
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Ok, so it's Tito this Saturday. How about when he fights Shamrock again? Do you think Shamrock is washed up?
Shamrock will be dangerous well beyond all of us growing grey hair and man boobs, but if Tito's on game I think it'll go to Tito.
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UFC need new fighters instead of leeching on old washed up names...
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Night of big mismatches. Tito will demolish Forrest, and Arlovski will make Sylvia shit himself again.
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I love how in the promos for this they call Tim Sylvia "One of the best strikers in the game". LMAO he's actually one of the WORST strikers in the game, one of the slowest if not THE slowest striker in the UFC.
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I'm surprised Pimpporn and Anthony haven't commented yet. Hehe
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I'm surprised Pimpporn and Anthony haven't commented yet. Hehe
Cause I just saw the thread. LOL

Anyone picking Forest over Tito is nuts. Tito was knocking bitches like Forest around for years as Champ before he lost.

I met Sylvia back in UFC 47 at a party, cool enough guy, but he's no dangerous striker, just bigger than your average bear, and trained enough to take out smaller guys. Did well till Mir, and now Arlovski.

Arlovski is considered in the top 5 in the world for Heavyweight in MMA.

Slyvia isn't even on the list.
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Arlovski is Probably the best MMA fighter currently. I dont think sylvia can hang. Hes been EXTREMELY lucky his ENTIRE career. Dont underestimate griffin, but dont overestimate him either. He has a great chance to beat Tito. Griffin can strike with the best of them, but Bonner went puch for punch with him, and I dont think Bonner is that great of a fighter. If the fight is a standup fight, it could go either way. Remember Tito was easily knocked out by Liddel in a standup fight....
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Arlovski is Probably the best MMA fighter currently.
*cough*fedor*cough*

Slyvia is a much better striker than you guys are giving him credit for - he'll put in a better showing this time, but he's still outgunned.

I can't wait to see the line on Diaz/Sherk, that's easy money on Sherk.
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Here's the lines from sportsbook.com.... Nothing's jumping out at me except the line on Sherk - grab it now, it won't stay that low.

04/15/06 105 Andrei Arlovski -400 OFF OFF
23:30 ET Tim Sylvia +300 OFF OFF

UFC 59 - Fight Matchup
04/15/06 110 Tito Ortiz -350 OFF OFF
23:30 ET Forrest Griffin +275 OFF OFF

UFC 59 - Fight Matchup
04/15/06 115 Nick Diaz +115 OFF OFF
23:00 ET Sean Sherk -145 OFF OFF

UFC 59 - Fight Matchup
04/15/06 120 Jeff Monson -210 OFF OFF
22:00 ET Marcio Cruz +170 OFF OFF

UFC 59 - Fight Matchup
04/15/06 125 David Terrell -200 OFF OFF
22:00 ET Scott Smith +160 OFF OFF

UFC 59 - Fight Matchup
04/15/06 130 Karo Parisyan -260 OFF OFF
22:00 ET Nick Thompson +200 OFF OFF

UFC 59 - Fight Matchup
04/15/06 135 Jason Lambert -220 OFF OFF
22:00 ET Terry Martin +180 OFF OFF

UFC 59 - Fight Matchup
04/15/06 140 Thiago Alves -360 OFF OFF
22:00 ET Derrick Noble +280 OFF OFF

UFC 59 - Fight Matchup
04/15/06 145 Evan Tanner -325 OFF OFF
22:00 ET Justin Levens +250 OFF OFF


UFC 60 - Fight Matchup
05/27/06 505 Matt Hughes -400 OFF OFF
23:30 ET Royce Gracie +300 OFF OFF
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The Monson/Pe de Pano fight is gonna be awesome. It's a spinoff from those two fighing in ADCC.

Two big wins for my school American Top Team in Pride with Kang and Aurelio winning. It would be sweet to make it a hat trick with the Snowman beating Pe de Pano.
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Whoever wins we'll all be in for a good show.
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Nice Pic of Arlovski! Sylvia doesn't stand a chance against him. They are not even in the same league.
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Thats all I gotta say!
Great Pic!

Ok, so whos gonna win the Matt Hughes and Royce Gracie fight? I think Royce is past his time.
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Thats all I gotta say!


And that pretty much sums up how this next fight will go!

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Tito but it would be exciting to see forrest win.
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Ortiz for sure. Griffen will give him a great fight but Ortiz is just an animial.


Oh, and I can't wait for Arlovski. I love that crazy fucker; Sylvia just don't match up!
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Tito vs Forrest:
I loves me some Forrest. Great personality and fighter, but I'm not so sure that he's got what it takes to beat Tito, even with his training with Chuck. Tito is also growing on me like fungus, sigh. Tito wins.

Andrei Arlovski Vs. Tim Sylvia
Tim may have improved since their last fight, but I know that Arlovski has. Judging by the Silva fight he had in January, Tim really doesn't have nearly as much of a chance as he thinks he does. Arlovski wins, and fairly quickly too.

On a couple of the other fights:

Nick Diaz Vs. Sean Sherk
Diaz is coming off of two shitty loses in a row, and Sherk really doesn't have anything to loose (except the win money) as he's got a three fight contract coming up in the lightweight division. Diaz by career desperation.

Jeff Monson Vs. Marcio Cruz
Wow, a decent matchup in the Heavyweight division, cool. Cruz has done very well lately, but I think that Monson's general experience will get him the win. Unless of coarse his conflicting political tatoos cause some kind of weird hole in space andtime and he gets sucked in. Probably won't happen, but you never know.
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I'm not sure what to think about that one ... Gracie maybe past his prime ..but he just needs one submission and it's over ..

I think Gracie will choke him out fast!

If you think about it.. 12 years or so ago when Royce was fighting... there was not weight class.. time limits.. nothing.. hell.. he beat the hell out of Kimo .. I just dont see a dude weighing 175 beating Royce..

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