Fifty........

Look, you are too stupid to continue this further. But for the record I don't even have a bare titty on my websites so if a kid stumbles onto it by accident they won't be traumatized for life.

You are too stupid to hold a normal conversation without resorting to name calling. Face it you like American money, and you want it no matter if its a thirteen year old kid using moms credit card.

See, utterly god damned retarded. How anyone could put up with you for more than 5 minutes in person is beyond me.

Exactly ... Marriott makes tons of money off porn and the owner is Mormon!

We are blackballed when other large corporations are allowed to make money off the same thing we do. We just have to find a way to control it better, and while they think this is a good solution, it definitely has its pros and cons.

Personally, I would have been for .xxx had they started it from the beginning. But I do see why it's almost impossible to integrate with the .nets and .orgs.

This will definitely be a battle ... and the outcome will be interesting.

Why is there always some of these .xxx is good people everytime a thread like this comes up. A few things:

1 Say good bye to all your college surfers and daytime work surfers, those make up alot of sales. They will be no more.
2 People act like America is the world and its not, so offshore they are still using .com while we are here in filter hell.
3 Every right wing religious group will be writing every isp if you let .xxx you are supporting porn. So most will be shut out because unfortunately there are alot of porn viewers but they are not a vocal group because they dont want to be associated with porn.
4. if protecting kids was important they would do a cheap .kids domain for 5 bucks each with a .kids only browser .
5. everything doesnt have to be child safe thats the parents job and actually porn isnt a physical danger to kids , yahoo chat rooms and myspace sites are and they will not be regulated.

It's useless dude, he's dense. I've argued with you on multiple subjects but almost always a matter of personal preference. Something like .xxx is so obvious in one direction it's laughable to hear these fools. I bet he has 500 new.net .xxx domains and thinks he'll get rich when it happens. :1orglaugh

tony404 I agree .kids would be better and the ultimate responsability rests with the parents and trust me I am not THRILLED about .xxx itself but I am thrilled that for the first time the government is actually considering something that acts as regulation, and we need it, we have needed it so bad for so long.

I have to agree with you :thumbsup

Chadglni stfu you loser you are not even eloquent enough to state anything remotely as intelligent as what tony404 just said. Also I have ZERO .xxx domains. Why dont you go back to peddling your porn to youngsters you sicko.

Was the internet created for children ? Creating a .KID extension would be a lot better then creating a .XXX extension.

There are other stuff then porn that childrens shouldn't be accessing on the internet.

You're pretty much a waste of time so I'ma stop arguing with your stupid ass. If you can't see what the GOV is trying to pull, well that's just cauz you're blind.

its so true that kid that testified in front of the government, him jerking off for old men had nothing to do with adult porn sites. It was yahoo im and a webcam and paypal.

And if you stop wacking off for a minute you will see my stance is that .kids would be better, I dont wholly support .xxx and the only thing I definitively support is the fucking regulation to legitimize this industry. You really think the American government is going to stop coming after you(and all of us) unless they are getting a piece of the pie? The easy access to porn is what is fucking us, basically we are fucking ourselves you shortminded fucks. :Oh crap

So true and very sad......

Umm

Do you own your own program or biz in this industry, or have you fully looked into what is really going to happen here?

Its about"control" one more step from taking away the rights again.

Omg...you work for .XXX ....hahahaaha.....you must...Say hi to Jason....

:1orglaugh

Could it be that you're a plant just like the last guy I saw defending .xxx domains?

If not then you really are either obstinate or naive because you certainly aren't intelligent - but then that's obvious from your oh so eloquent reply.

Steve...we are thinking in "stereo" lol..................
Exactly what and who he is...............



"This bill will section off a piece of the Internet neighborhood and confine adult sites to one location," the Montana senator said.

In addition to the filtering issue already mentioned:

If all your sponsors are wasting their resources on trademark litigation, your affiliate payouts will have to be lower.

If all your sponsors have to spend their dough on rebranding new domains, your affiliate payouts will have to be lower.

Most importantly, who gets to decide what goes on a .XXX domain? Access to information about birth control and breast cancer and homosexuality and outsider art and all differing political views could all be fairly effortlessly sent to Siberia, if this goes through.

Web sites fundamentally are something which should enable the more free exchange of ideas and information. The totalitarian potential of a system which allows web sites to be easily ghettoized and subjected to bizarre and unusual regulation . . . well, it is appalling and staggering.

Lastly, if you want to know how this could impact you directly: Although this won't impact me negatively at all, if they impose stricter copyright and record-keeping rules as proposed on .XXX domains, then folks with your business model will be fined and statutory-damaged to kingdom come.

Eat a dick pedo.

Is this Splum guy series? He must have an agenda....

and if he doesn't have an agenda he is a fucking moron.

Splum, You keep posting about how regulation will make you more money. Unless you are controlling the entire supply chain (ex. VISA/MC, Major SEs, Hosting, ISPs, Producers etc.) on the internet + decision making politicians, then you have no clue to how this will end up. You are wishful thinking, you have no facts to base your expectations on!

it's simple... either you are "for" the .xxx or you are "against" ... bickering back and forth with each other isn't going to help or hinder what is going on right now.

If you would like to help, whether you are a small program, independant site owner or large program - it all helps.

Send a letter with your opposition to the FSC - The Free Speech Coalition has made it as simple as possible.
Click the link below and fill in a few fields, name, email address and company name and you send it....

don't procrastinate this any longer... help out! :thumbsup

SEND YOU OPPOSITION LETTER HERE!

Presumably some people are undecided on their opinion or flexible in what they think and will be swayed by statements which help them understand the pros and cons of it.

Also, the ACLU has some good resources for writing your senators etc.

It all sounds so simple ... just use xxx! ...

* The government will leave us alone. NO, once we are all in one easy to oversee category they will add regulation upon regulation until there is a code that matches the IRS's in volume.

* Any Porn is always a good target when running for re-election ...

* Eventually they will "tax" xxx ... Wanna Bet?

When I read this stuff it just reminds me of all the webmasters that went berserk and shut down their sites and dumped tons of content because of some ridiculous and unconstitutional law that had been proposed. What was it again? Oh yeah, 2257 and making webmasters secondary producers.

I'm not for .xxx, but this just looks like another scare tactic to generate more profits for a certain organization.

I highly doubt Splums on the fence with the whole .xxx !
I am in agreement with Mike Hawk and The Other Steve... he's a plant and here to cause conflict when the .xxx is brought up on message boards.

I do however, agree with you Amelia, that it is good to openly discuss the pros and cons so that those people who are uncertain may possibly be persuaded in a different direction.

Thanks AmeliaG for posting the link for letter writing your senators... every bit helps!

You called me a moron when you cannot even spell serious? :1orglaugh

Be careful with your accusations you have no idea who I am. I am not your sheep and you keep lobbying for the FSC buddy I am sure they have given you some nice kickbacks.

You know what you fucking hippies go ahead and give to the FSC and tell them MikeHawk sent ya http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/ this is not worth my time to be fighting with a bunch of former woodstock junkies who think that regulation means censorship. Im done arguing with you people, lets just wait and see where all your money ends up heh, enjoy the ass raping with no lube, Ill take the lube thanks.

Hahhahaahaha "Statements" by whom? Tards?

Most dont know a thing of .XXX or what its all really about, i suggest to the people who dont know what they are talking about GO READ and learn. I think once you have read understood what this, you will change your tune. This info is not by board posting GFY people but by lawyers and folks who have done there homework and fact finding.

Lesson 1

FSC Anti-.XXX Letter-Writing Campaign
Source: Free speech Coalition
by: Company Press Release
[Here's an interesting bit: The Free speech Coalition and the Bush Administration agree on this, albeit for different reasons. Adult Industry News remains neutral on this important matter and as a reporting agency will publish opposing viewpoints. We urge everyone to learn, decide and be active in this matter. -Ed.]

(CANOGA PARK, CA) -- The Free Speech Coalition is commencing a letter-writing campaign in opposition to the creation of a .XXX top-level domain. A pre-written letter is available on the Free Speech Coalition Website, at FreeSpeechCoalition.com/xinfo.htm, where one can go to simply fill in a few fields of information and send the letter off, make changes to the letter, or write a completely new one. Letters will be emailed to the Free Speech Coalition, where they will be gathered and presented to ICANN later this month. For maximum impact, we are collecting the letters themselves.

The Free Speech Coalition has already contacted ICANN officials on several occasions over the past weeks and months, to express our opposition to the creation of .XXX itself, and to restate our concerns regarding the legitimacy of the application submitted to ICANN by ICM Registry to create and run .XXX. We will continue to press our case up to and after the upcoming September 15 ICANN meeting, when the issue of the approval of .XXX is scheduled to be revisited.

We ask any and all members of the adult entertainment community who believe, as we do, that .XXX is a bad idea that will not work, to visit our site and take 60 seconds to register your opposition. We understand that other people and petitions are out there, sending letters and gathering names, and we certainly applaud those efforts. In fact, if anyone has already signed up at FightTheDotXXX.com, there is no need to duplicate the effort here. But if you have yet to register your opinion, it certainly is not too late to do so. It is important to let ICANN know that responsible adult webmasters already exist, and that we resent the implication that adult websites that do not purchase and abide by mandatory .XXX policies are by definition irresponsible.

Fight dot XXX!

Free Speech Coalition is the trade organization of the adult entertainment industry. Its mission is to safeguard the industry from oppressive governmental regulation and to promote good business practices within the industry.

Contact:
Tom Hymes
310-384-6298
Free Speech Coalition
P.O. Box 10480,
Canoga Park, CA 91309
ph: 818-348-9373
FreeSpeechCoalition.com
[email protected]


http://freespeechcoalition.com/

http://www.sci-tech-today.com/news/I...d=10100B9YJI81

http://freespeechcoalition.com/dotXXX/Form.html

Splum, who are you anyway? You a tough guy? Or a "gangsta"..lol....

I attend every show for our biz, next time introduce yourself to me and i would happy to meet ya and see "who you are"...hahahaha....

Anyway, this thread was about "information" .....and letting those know about this nasty .XXX.

Oh and by the way i must have hit a nerve about "Jason" ...the FSC is a group that works for not alot of money to protect our industry just so you know.

I am going to enjoy the beach and the rest of my weekend, my work is done here.............keep fighting for your cause Splum.....its your right.....right?

If anything results from this greed driven bill written by them devils everyone loves to hate. I hope someone takes it to heart and puts the children of those responsible in the line of fire with a high powered sniper rifle. My 2 cents.

the US has turned around the time, its going towards the 50's now.

Actually it was created for the US military( which is run by adults, I think ). And it was also used to connect universities( also a non-kid area ) So no the internet was not in fact created for kids it was created by adult for adults. Nuff said.

I believe in free speech and I believe that a cornerstone of free speech is people explaining to one another what they believe and why. I was just saying that I think it does make sense to continue to discuss the topic here.

You are not a tard and you are posting statements outlining your views and the views of others. Presumably some people will be swayed by your statements or why make them?

I am deeply opposed to the .xxx TLD, more from a patriotic freedom perspective honestly, than a business one, but from a business stance as well. Did you miss the part where I responded to Splum, saying:

This site of course would also have to move to .XXX . In fact I suppose any website that has a "bad" word in the name would have to be placed on .XXX regardless if it has nay adult content on it or not.

I believe that the requirement is any site that is considered to be "harmful to minors" - just who decides what's harmful to minors in a country that is infested with religious zealots and bigots does not leave me feeling very confident about the future of sites that deal with STD's and breast cancer and other health issues.

I'm not sure what to say. I'm not debating .xxx anymore. The documents on the site, and others posted on the ICANN and GAC sites, state quite clearly and literally what this industry is up against.

There's nothing I can add except to say that I have always actually had an open mind about dot xxx, but after going to New Zealand my suspicions were confirmed and I am more convinced than ever that no one will be able to keep their hands off this domain.

If anyone has anything they want to ask me, I'm easy to find. If anyone who has not done so already wants to take a stand against this, please send a letter or email. Make it short. No need to pontificate. Just state your position.

Thanks,
Tom

[email protected]

Oh. One other thing. Anyone who knows anything about the history of dot xxx knows exactly from which direction the promises and payoffs have come from.

yea, its a truly fucked up situation.

You really are DUMB and IGNORANT ... and obviously could not comprehend an explanation ... no time to loose with idiots. :2 cents:

You should be BANNED for making twice these allegations...

BTW, who did you say was reverting to " name calling " :1orglaugh

I presume you are against abortion .. and I can see why.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hymes Oh. One other thing. Anyone who knows anything about the history of dot xxx knows exactly from which direction the promises and payoffs have come.

Yup - :pimp

2hp

Thanks for raising this again Mike.

The whole .xxx exercise is to have a domain name goldrush. Look what happened with .eu and .xxx will be 100 times more ott. The registry behind the push sees the $$.

I mean think about it there is more on the net that kids shouldnt see than just porn. THIS is why a .kids domain makes so much sense. Rather than trying to exclude sites from kids, why not make a domain space where all the content is safe for kids!

.kids is SO much better of a solution - but hey - there wont be as much money for the registry trying to sell them will there?

It's all bollocks - support FSC on this ppl.

:2 cents:

in a few words: Do not support the .XXX!
It will take seconds for isps to block .XXX domains!
Don't do it!

Survival of the fittest!!!

cambaby i believe ...

What it will do, is allow the gov to specifically monitor surfers and webmasters very closely, Not that they don't do that already. How much easier is it to shoot a group of ducks if they are all located in one place? The surfer knows this and that will make the fear of prosecutions grow and drastically reduce traffic.