Yes someone coming into the United States ILLEGALLY is going to fill out a 1040.

Not only are they not going to fill out a 1040, but when they get hurt, which is more common, due to their manual labor jobs (which they do well in my opinion, no sarcasim intended), they go to the hospitals and get free care.

I busted my head open once and was at Pomerado Hospital in Poway, CA. In the room next to me, there were two illegals, that were getting stiched up from being in a fight with each other. The nurse was complaining that they were not citizens, but the INS didn't have time to come get them, so they would stitch them up, send them off, and the state would foot the bill.

How is that fair when my insurance costs me $110 a month, and I pay the deductible?

I pay $96 a month for my son's insurance( $500 deductable ) and $65 a month for me ( $5000 deductable ). Basically mine is more for if I get really fucked up at least I can get treatment. I can come up with $5K if I need a new kidney or heart or something. Also just having the card gets me into the doctors office whereas if I didn't have ANY insurance they want payment upfront. Nice thing is I can deduct my insurance premiums.

I wasn't half as messed up as these two Mexicans that were in there next to me. My bill was $1,350 I believe. Assuming that these two guys were $1,500 a piece, that is $3,000.

Now for all the people bitching that our schools don't have enough money, that is (and I'm totally guessing) $3,000 that could have been spent on over 100 books for classrooms, teachers aids, etc.

We should send the bill to Mexico, but who would pay it?

Point of fact: They are breaking the law by being here, and it costs tax-payers more money because of it in the long run.

Are you really following or talking off your ass? The illegals who are to be legalized will have to pay back taxes and a fine and then will have to pay taxes every year. No taxes, no fine = no legalization, no taxes after legalization = no citizenship and revoked legal alien status. Now quit bitching be happy that the "criminals" start to pay taxes just like yourself :winkwink:

Point of fact: They are not breaking the law, they are breaking immigration law which is a civil offence only not misdemeanor not felony. They will now be paying taxes too therefore will be one of the tax-payers themselves.

You must live in lala land. They ARE breaking the law. Period. Prove otherwise, please, and give me a reason to educate you.

You must be high if you think they will pay back taxes..... Here is what will happen:

Immigration officer: How long have you been here?

Mexican: Just got here today.

Immigration officer: Ummm... Okay....

Now repeat that 12 million times..... plus....

P.S.

I would like to note that I HATE posting in a thread named "Immigrant haters"

I don't hate immigrants.

I'm too lazy/busy at the moment to make a new thread, I will within the next week, and debate this until we are all blue in the face. ;)

Chris

Oh, so we fine them and as long as they pay that and back taxes its OK?

Tell me, how much is the fine for flying airplanes into buildings?

umm.. hard to argue with hard-heads Immigrant haters. You "break laws" when you rape, kill, do drugs etc. you do not quite "break laws" when you smoke in a non-smoking zone.. well as per your idea of breaking laws ofcourse you do break the law when you smoke in the non-smoking zone and therefore are a criminal :1orglaugh

IDIOT.

You should've really listened to the news or atleast read the article i provided an url to in my first post before shooting off your mouth.

Immigration officer: How long have you been here?

Mexican: Just got here today.

Immigration officer: Ummm... you can't get a legal status unless you've been here atleast 5 years.. now you are deported.

So now the Joses (mexicans) flying airplanes into buildings? :1orglaugh

what are you a mexican?

Listen dipshit, they are already are here WITHOUT alien status so why would they care it got revoked? Do you realize what would happen if all 90 million Mexicans came here? Is that what you want? If not what # do you stop at? Which Mexicans do you tell "Sorry you can't be here"? So who is the one full of shit? Fact is the policy you support just ENCOURAGES more people crossing the border, don't say it doesn't.

I don't want them to pay taxes, I want them GONE. Deport the motherfuckers and shoot everyone that comes over a fence. We send Cubans and Hatians home all the time why show favortism to Mexicans?

YOU hate immigrants. What about people from other countries that follow the rules and have to wait longer because of this crap? Is that fair?

:helpme :error :Oh crap

Immigration law is still a law IDIOT. And most non-Mexicans get deported for it.

No I'm not a mexican. Neither are my mom, dad, sister, brother or lensman. Why? Are you a Nazi?

So if the policy encourages more people crossing border then get better border security and actually shooting the ones trying to cross won't be too bad an idea either but for the 11 million illegals already in.. ah.. deporting them will cost 354 billion dollars, you ain't gonna poop that kinda money outta your ass are you? gov not showing favortism to mexs it's actually for all illegals regardless of nationality.. btw, if the cubans could reach U.S. soil they were instantly legal so don't see where you got that "sent cubans home" idea from :error

Iraq was is going to cost that much. Anyways it will not cost $354 billion. Did you pull that # out of your ass? Put them on a bus and send it back to Mexico. Considering you can fit 10 mexicans in Ford Escort you probally could fit 200-300 on a standard bus.

I get it. You are not an Immigrant Hater you are a Mexican Hater :1orglaugh Btw, mexicans do get deported more often than any other nationals but then they try crossing the border again and again. Stricter border security is the key to that prob.

I highly doubt the people that have been here 2-5 years would trust going across the border and attemping to come back for "legal status" I dont see this working.

No I read newspapers.. i understand it could be hard for you to fathom that some people actually do read before shooting off the mouth :1orglaugh Shit man! maybe you should call for a jihad against mexicans.. hmm.. did a mexican ever steal your girlfriend by any chance? :1orglaugh well truthfully, i'm not a big supporter of those idiot uneducated mexs but I don't really see any other way solving this prob and i believe congress would find another way if there was any :2 cents:

I agree but can't think of a better solution.

fuckit Bush lets just nuke Mexico that way will get rid of them and all the Texan's Who don't want them here. Problem Solved...:Oh crap

I'm reposting this.... Why isn't it being addressed?


:disgust

I was wondering what made you an expert, you read a newspaper, that MUST be it.

Want to know how you know you won an argument? The other party resorts to name calling. I believe you just called me an idiot. Cute, you lose. Does mommy and daddy know you are up this late?

Gator has done nothing but post logical sense here, you on the other hand, seem to be looking for a fight...

Quote for my post above....

Wrong again. Read the law buddy. Being here alone is breaking a law, not matter how you slice it.

It was addressed, some people seem to want to ignore it though. :)

Chris

:1orglaugh "Your" country. :1orglaugh

:321GFY :321GFY

I'm an American, that makes it my country. US History 101. Read a book.

He meant it as a joke. Izzz is a good american :)

You live on stolen land, gringo. Mexican History 101. Read a book...in spanish! :1orglaugh

Keep waving that flag..... you have a green card or something?

Do youself a favor.... educate yourself:

www.760kfmb.com

Listen to Rick Roberts.....

And in case you don't want to click above...

hahaha8220;I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!hahaha8221;-
By Rick Roberts - 760 KFMB AM

I donhahaha8217;t mean to go off on a rant here, but herehahaha8217;s the bottom line, I want my country back.

I want my kids to be able to walk to the store or walk to school without being abducted by some 3-time convicted child molester. And the politically correct powers that be in this country just canhahaha8217;t seem to get over themselves with hahaha8220;CANhahaha8217;T WE JUST HELP THIS PERSON!hahaha8221; No! You canhahaha8217;t. But theyhahaha8217;re let loose to prey on more children.

I want my kids back. I want my country back.

I donhahaha8217;t agree with everything this President does. Ihahaha8217;ve never agreed with anything 100% that any President has done or said.

You know, I was very young during the Vietnam War. So I probably missed that thing by a hair. I donhahaha8217;t know whether I would have agreed with that or not at the time. I was too stupid to have an opinion at that point and time even though I thought I did.

I want my country back.

I want some semblance of respect for authority, whether I agree with it all or not.

I want the Boy Scouts to be hahaha8220;boyhahaha8221; scouts, not boy and hahaha8220;we think shehahaha8217;s a girlhahaha8221; scouts. I want Girl Scouts to be hahaha8220;girlhahaha8221; scouts not Girl Scouts and hahaha8220;Bruce.hahaha8221;

I want my country back.

I want to be able to wake up in the morning knowing that I can walk outside without some gang-banger on parole taking my life.

Or being able to go down and purchase a car without having to worry about you know 90% of the parts being made overseas in some sweatshop.

I want my politicians, when they finally do get my vote, to do what the hell they said they were going to do in the first place.

I want the Abramoffhahaha8217;s of the world to be labeled what theyhahaha8230;nothing more than organized crime in a better suit.

I want the Hollywood elite to make movies to entertain me. Not use their celebrity to sway me politically one way or the other.

Quite honestly, if youhahaha8217;re a has-been-pseudo-celebrity I want you to go away quietly, so that I can remember you fondly through your hahaha8220;artiste workhahaha8221; thathahaha8217;s left in the archives.

I want people to say something and when they say something look at me in the eye. And mean what they say. Not say what they think I want to hear. And then do what they want to later politically or any other way.

I want to be able to go out and work and make a decent wage and buy a home. Half the people that are listening to me right now canhahaha8217;t even afford to buy a house unless theyhahaha8217;re working three jobs.

And I want America to be America. All of those opportunities, all of those things that made her great, I want those returned to the forefront. If you want to come to this country we welcome you with open arms. We simply ask that you abide by our laws. I donhahaha8217;t want you to snub your nose at our laws, then take advantage of our opportunities, and then cling to the constitution most of which you canhahaha8217;t even read because you donhahaha8217;t speak the language.

I want us to secure our borders because the country is worth securing. The people that live here are worth protecting.

I want my country back. I want my children back.

I want some semblance of what this country used to be.

Ithahaha8217;s worth protecting. Ithahaha8217;s worth defending.

I donhahaha8217;t recognize this country anymore.

Not politically, not philosophically, not spiritually.

Whether you like it or whether you donhahaha8217;t God was a part of building this great nation. To remove him is to take away the very foundation of what this country was all about.

I donhahaha8217;t care about your political correctness!

I donhahaha8217;t want to know your sexual preference!

I could care less about all of that. Stop making it the headline of the day!

Thathahaha8217;s not America.

I want my country back!

And the only way Ihahaha8217;m ever going to be able to get this country back is if I reach out to the brothers and the sisters that all feel the same way and we say hahaha8220;Hell No! You canhahaha8217;t have our country.hahaha8221;

Ithahaha8217;s not for sale! Take the price tag off this country!

Take the price tag off the heads of our children!

Stop it already!

The politically-correct-psychobabble-hug-a-tree-experts ; You are not qualified to release sex offenders back into our neighborhoods.

The southern border, more than any other border, needs to be secured tomorrow. For all those that wish to come to this country to take advantage of her opportunity, to live under a constitution a living document that breathes in and out just like you do, this country is not for sale.

I should know. Ihahaha8217;m one of the owners. You canhahaha8217;t sell it without my permission.

I want my country back!

crap... sorry about the hahahaha's above

Why are you moving to Portland? I think you'd be more at home in Idaho.

You've confused education with indoctrination. :1orglaugh

Nah, just sick of paying $20 to park my car on a Friday night, no other reason (and my girl's family is up there).

I respectfully disagree.

If you leave San Diego you are essentially surrendering Aztlan to the Mexicans. What kind of proud Aryan warrior are you?

You can paint me with that brush if you want to. Its not accurate, but do as you will. You can crucify me for loving me country too, I can deal with that as well.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

I'm Italian by the way. My grandparents legally "come over on the boat".

Keyword, LEGALLY.

What year?

1915 in May

So how is this "your" country? Your ancestors didn't help steal it, English people did. I bet they were pissed when those wops came over just to freeload and commit crimes.

Depends, are they paying taxes? :1orglaugh

It's "my" country, because I am a citizen. I vote, I pay my taxes, I abide by the law, I support and love the freedoms given to me. My grandparents jumped through the legal hoops as well to become citizens, so I was GIVEN it as my birth right through my parents.

Very standard.

If you can't grasp this simple fact, I think I'm wasting my time with you.

Care to define that? I think I missed your point....