I never see ARS or CECash leaving a leash lying around to hang themselves with.

[gentmaster]

Why some sponsors here (mostly smaller) persistently continue to let others snoop around into your business practices only to be drawn out in public here is beyond me.

Discussions regarding cookies is just one example.

[gentmaster]

Bump for the view count.

My opinion should not matter. I'm just a noob surfer.

But here is a reminder regarding today's competitiveness:

There are 146+ Adult sponsors. (~90 of them advertise regularly here)
There are 200+ ccbill sponsors.
There are over 5,722 paysites.

There is a TON of FREE porn online.

Who is going to survive this game in the long run? Those who run a tight ship or those who operate with loose lips?

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by gentmaster

Why some sponsors here (mostly smaller) persistently continue to let others snoop around into your business practices only to be drawn out in public here is beyond me.

Discussions regarding cookies is just one example.

This might be true for ARS but I definitely don't agree about CE...

[gentmaster]

Originally Posted by Far-L

This might be true for ARS but I definitely don't agree about CE...

Don't know. Never seen them drop hints about who their vendors are or who they wheel-and-deal with. Nor do I see them trash talking other sponsors (in their representative names). Seriously how fucking lame is that?

One thing can be said about ARS, they are a professional company. An agency can approach them with confidence that their agreements will be secure.

[SmokeyTheBear]

some companies have some methods , others have different methods.. im often confused as well but , lots of things that are profitable suprise me.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by gentmaster

Don't know. Never seen them drop hints about who their vendors are or who they wheel-and-deal with. Nor do I see them trash talking other sponsors (in their representative names). Seriously how fucking lame is that?

One thing can be said about ARS, they are a professional company. An agency can approach them with confidence that their agreements will be secure.

I agree about ARS. I can only say good stuff about ARS - they have been solid allies in the fight against Acacia.

CE on the other hand was caught red handed redirecting our traffic to their amateurbitch site , then sued us for complaining about it and asking for an accounting, then apparently blacklisted us and insulted us on various boards because we decided to stand up to them. IMO, the reason you don't see much about CE and the flameouts they have had with others has to do with fear of litigation and not with them being some kind of bastion of ethics.

[gentmaster]

Originally Posted by Far-L

I agree about ARS. I can only say good stuff about ARS - they have been solid allies in the fight against Acacia.

CE on the other hand was caught red handed redirecting our traffic to their amateurbitch site , then sued us for complaining about it and asking for an accounting, then apparently blacklisted us and insulted us on various boards because we decided to stand up to them. IMO, the reason you don't see much about CE and the flameouts they have had with others has to do with fear of litigation and not with them being some kind of bastion of ethics.

Interesting. I won't judge.

Business flames on message boards are pretty destructive. Most of these flames just don't belong out in the open and originate from mouthpieces who just can't keep their lips shut, even internally. Information that affiliates (employees) just don't need to know.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by gentmaster

Interesting. I won't judge.

Business flames on message boards are pretty destructive. Most of these flames just don't belong out in the open and originate from mouthpieces who just can't keep their lips shut, even internally. Information that affiliates (employees) just don't need to know.

Couldn't agree with you more... but it does make for good drama.

My favorites are the reps that let their egos spin out of control thinking they are accorded some sort of royalty or special status because they post on gfy.

I guess the difference is the big companies do their battles in court for judges to judge and not on boards for surfers and other reps to judge...

[gentmaster]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Couldn't agree with you more... but it does make for good drama.

My favorites are the reps that let their egos spin out of control thinking they are accorded some sort of royalty or special status because they post on gfy.

I guess the difference is the big companies do their battles in court for judges to judge and not on boards for surfers and other reps to judge...

Good stuff. Now for some evil. I'm not referring at all to what is happening between EpicCash or OC. Frankly I pledge allegience to those sponsors who pay me.

My concern is with sponsors who let info slip about partnerships they setup with their affiliates. Information that doesn't need to be out there.

BTW p1mpdogg. ROCK THE FUCK ON!

[elitetec]

Me neither