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Alex 04-02-2006 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Get your point Splum, but also know that the US did not "win" two World Wars - that's just too absurd and sure as hell is not in any history book anywhere, tho Hollywood may suggest this :)

Other nations were already fighting WW2 on several fronts before the US was even involved. BTW.. I'm not decrying or deriding US involvement in either world wars - the US played an important role along with many other nations and where several of those other nations paid a far higher price.

The U.S "WON" those two wars becasue they were on the side of the allies.

They supported tons of other ways but in regarding to the conflict in Europe in WWII, they didnt come in untill way after Germany knew it was over.

WarChild 04-02-2006 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
Anohter fucking idiot.

Go back to History Class moron.

France has won more wars than the U.S has been in.

Gallic Wars
- Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

- Hundred Years War
- Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman." Sainted.

- Italian Wars
- Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.

- Wars of Religion
- France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots

- Thirty Years War
- France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

- War of Revolution
- Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.

- The Dutch War
- Tied

- War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War
- Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

- War of the Spanish Succession
- Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.

- American Revolution
- In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

- French Revolution
- Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

- The Napoleonic Wars
- Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.

- The Franco-Prussian War
- Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

- World War I
- Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

- World War II
- Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

- War in Indochina
- Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

- Algerian Rebellion
- Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

:upsidedow

Alex 04-02-2006 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
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How the fuck was WWII in the loss column??

You just said yourself in regards to the Napoleonic wars. It doesn't matter how many temporary victories or losses you have, all that matters is where you come out at the end.

And the allies won WWII

lyn1 04-02-2006 02:09 PM

Every US negative force must belong to GFY.

I am starting to wonder that to qualify as a porn webmaster:

1. You must be shit scared of the bird flu (that is a media beat-up)

2. Hate US

3. Hate George Bush

4. Hate Microsoft

5. Hate Bill Gates

6. Shit scared a war is going to kill you.

7. Shit scared the US is going to beat the shit out of Iran

8. Shit scared the Arabs are going to hate the US even more

9. Shit scared of poofters

10. Hate Juicy Links for turning gay

11. Be an uneducated/unemployed teen

12. Actually think US has lost every war it has contested.

Must I go on. I could add to this for ages.

Step back and take a reality check and have a look at yourselves.

Lyn from Oz

KRL 04-02-2006 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lyn1
Every US negative force must belong to GFY.

I am starting to wonder that to qualify as a porn webmaster:

1. You must be shit scared of the bird flu (that is a media beat-up)

2. Hate US

3. Hate George Bush

4. Hate Microsoft

5. Hate Bill Gates

6. Shit scared a war is going to kill you.

7. Shit scared the US is going to beat the shit out of Iran

8. Shit scared the Arabs are going to hate the US even more

9. Shit scared of poofters

10. Hate Juicy Links for turning gay

11. Be an uneducated/unemployed teen

12. Actually think US has lost every war it has contested.

Must I go on. I could add to this for ages.

Step back and take a reality check and have a look at yourselves.

Lyn from Oz


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

WarChild 04-02-2006 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
How the fuck was WWII in the loss column??

You just said yourself in regards to the Napoleonic wars. It doesn't matter how many temporary victories or losses you have, all that matters is where you come out at the end.

And the allies won WWII

Yeah, the French were an integral part of the allied victory in Europe during WWII. I mean, without their beaches to land on, the British and Americans might not have been able to liberate them. :Oh crap

Alex 04-02-2006 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lyn1
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Let me ask you something:

Have you ever experienced a war? Not one where your country had troops fighting in other countries.

But one, right on your own turf. Or have you had family members go through something like that?

WarChild 04-02-2006 02:16 PM

Let's not forget France as a colonial power! Boy what the English, Spanish and Portugese would give to be able to be sniveling in Quebec! You go France.

Alex 04-02-2006 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
Yeah, the French were an integral part of the allied victory in Europe during WWII. I mean, without their beaches to land on, the British and Americans might not have been able to liberate them. :Oh crap

Don't give me that bullshit. Russia was the only country in WWII that defeated Germany ALONE.

If it come down to the way you put it, then Russia won WWII (in regards to the European conflict)
and the U.S, Britain, and France lost.


We all know that the U.S army in WWII was a piece of shit. Open a history book, they admit it themselves. Britain would have surrendered in two days had they not been supported by the Convoy System from the U.S

Only Russia went at it alone, yet Britain and the U.S get credit for the win

WarChild 04-02-2006 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
Don't give me that bullshit. Russia was the only country in WWII that defeated Germany ALONE.

If it come down to the way you put it, then Russia won WWII (in regards to the European conflict)
and the U.S, Britain, and France lost.


We all know that the U.S army in WWII was a piece of shit. Open a history book, they admit it themselves. Britain would have surrendered in two days had they not been supported by the Convoy System from the U.S

Only Russia went at it alone, yet Britain and the U.S get credit for the win

Yes I agree that Russia was a giant part of the allied win. Couldn't have been done without them. France on the other hand, not so much, eh?

WarChild 04-02-2006 02:18 PM

I really shouldn't knock the French that much. After all, they did sink the Rainbow Warrior!

Alex 04-02-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
Yes I agree that Russia was a giant part of the allied win. Couldn't have been done without them. France on the other hand, not so much, eh?

Same is said by Russians about the U.S.


Am i arguing that the French didnt do "so much"? No.

All i am saying is that when regarding the French in WWII they came out on top in the end, therefore they win.

Napolean concqured half of Europe during his time, yet you classify that war as a loss for France, why?

Webby 04-02-2006 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lyn1
Every US negative force must belong to GFY.

I am starting to wonder that to qualify as a porn webmaster:

1. You must be shit scared of the bird flu (that is a media beat-up)

2. Hate US

3. Hate George Bush

4. Hate Microsoft

5. Hate Bill Gates

6. Shit scared a war is going to kill you.

7. Shit scared the US is going to beat the shit out of Iran

8. Shit scared the Arabs are going to hate the US even more

9. Shit scared of poofters

10. Hate Juicy Links for turning gay

11. Be an uneducated/unemployed teen

12. Actually think US has lost every war it has contested.

Must I go on. I could add to this for ages.

Step back and take a reality check and have a look at yourselves.

Lyn from Oz


:1orglaugh :thumbsup

I'd never hate Juicy - in fact, I got these fantasies over Juicy :winkwink:

I even like Bill Gates, despite he is the target of popular "hate".

Can't say I hate any country - including the US - they are all amazing places.

Bird flu as not been given much thought yet - ya got to wait a bit for that.

The only war I'd even get involved in is a valid one - so little fear of being killed in one right at this time.

Hell.. would I just like to be an unemployed and uneducated teen now - the world would be my oyster.

George Bush? Well.. he's probably a nice guy to share a beer or line of Charlie, but to empower him to run a country - that's too hilarious. It has got to be some reflection on those who elected him.

On poofters, it's all about respect of your fellow man and tolerance. A couple of lesbians can be interesting tho :)

One thing you missed - the need for "would you hit it pics". This is obviously the prime reason for the bulk of "webmaster" involvement on the net - a few free porn pics, cos they sure as hell ain't actually running real businesses.


Anyways... this has been another awesome thread of GFY - it was about Iran and the US messing again with marvelous intelligence? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

WarChild 04-02-2006 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
Napolean concqured half of Europe during his time, yet you classify that war as a loss for France, why?

Because my post was a cut and paste meant to be very tounge in cheek. :pimp

Alex 04-02-2006 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
Because my post was a cut and paste meant to be very tounge in cheek. :pimp

I figured i was arguing with something someone googled.

Not enough of a brain to argue for yourself?

WarChild 04-02-2006 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
I figured i was arguing with something someone googled.

Not enough of a brain to argue for yourself?

I wasn't actually trying to argue at all. I thought it was kind of funny, so I posted it.

Xaid 04-02-2006 02:42 PM

starting a new war on "terrorism" while under funded, deeply embedded in Iraq and Afghanistan is foolish. the US is short on money and barring the reinstitution of the draft short on soldiers for that kind of war

Webby 04-02-2006 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
I wasn't actually trying to argue at all. I thought it was kind of funny, so I posted it.


Excuse me while I wedge my tongue out of my cheek - it's been in there for so long and has a reflex action of going there on every visit to GFY :winkwink:

Barefootsies 04-02-2006 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Juilan
The Russians won WWII.

Technically the Red Army defeated Nazi Germany. Eisenhower halted the Western allies and allowed Zhukov and Konev to commit the Coup de Gras by taking Berlin.

Semantics. The US and Britan let Russia take Berlin. There was a race to Berlin, and the Allies had gotten there first, but allowed Russia to take it per agreement. This is documented as Stalin wanted Berlin, and Britan and the US agreed. There were in position a few days prior, and could have taken it if they wanted.

Sounds like you need to brush up on your history.

:disgust

Barefootsies 04-02-2006 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
The U.S "WON" those two wars becasue they were on the side of the allies.

They supported tons of other ways but in regarding to the conflict in Europe in WWII, they didnt come in untill way after Germany knew it was over.

You might wanna brush up on the "Lend Lease" part of WWII in regards to the US involvement.

:winkwink:

Splum 04-02-2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
Anohter fucking idiot. Go back to History Class moron. France has won more wars than the U.S has been in.

You are seriously deranged and disillusioned. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

tranza 04-02-2006 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jensen
Iran is already supporting terrorist groups like Hezbollah and attacks within Iraq... so if that scares the shit out of you, wake up turn on your telly...

You're not for real, are you?

Yucky Smurf 04-02-2006 04:43 PM

Iran has china, russia.

united states cant do shit to iran.

they dont even have the option of nuking iran. iran has russia's sunburn missles.

united states isnt america no longer. its being divided and sold. mexicans killed cali, arizona, nevada...etc etc. entire west coast belongs to mexico, been that way for years, no one did shit.

the infamous haliburton company has been busy building bootleg prisons ready to house an influx of prisoners. 200% says its americans fighting for america.

want advise? better start liquidating, transfer ur fuckin cash out this country

this country is garbage. its citizens do nothing.

JohanTheGreat 04-02-2006 04:54 PM

There wont be attack on Iran by the US.
Russia and China has to much to lose if Iran becomes Iraq.
They wont let that happend.

I also dont see the problem with Iran having nuclear-weapons.
If the US and Israel can have that kind of weapons, why not Iran?

If any country should be attacked, it should be israel.
zionism is a disease and should be classed as terrorism.

Pornwolf 04-02-2006 05:18 PM

I learned two things in this thread.

I learned the term Poofter means gay. I never heard the word before.

I learned Juicylinks may be turning gay. I hope this is not true.

That's all.

Pornwolf 04-02-2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JohanTheGreat
If any country should be attacked, it should be israel.
zionism is a disease and should be classed as terrorism.

Let me preface this and first say I'm not Jewish.

Why is everyone so afraid of the Jews? I hear Zionism this, Zionism that like they have something to truly fear behind them.

What's the deal?

Rochard 04-02-2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Juilan
The Russians won WWII.

Technically the Red Army defeated Nazi Germany. Eisenhower halted the Western allies and allowed Zhukov and Konev to commit the Coup de Gras by taking Berlin.

You can argue who won WWII until your blue in the face. The Russians sure did take the brunt of it, but they were only fighting against one country on a single front while the US was fighting two wars a world apart (Germany and Japan) on multiple fronts (Africa, France, Italy, Denmark, and all of the Pacific).

qwe 04-02-2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
Don't give me that bullshit. Russia was the only country in WWII that defeated Germany ALONE.

If it come down to the way you put it, then Russia won WWII (in regards to the European conflict)
and the U.S, Britain, and France lost.


We all know that the U.S army in WWII was a piece of shit. Open a history book, they admit it themselves. Britain would have surrendered in two days had they not been supported by the Convoy System from the U.S

Only Russia went at it alone, yet Britain and the U.S get credit for the win

thats what they teach in north america that they won ww2, which is COMPLETE bullshit... like 6 years ago when i was in HS here in canada, it was funny how the history teacher kept making it seem like canada was a MAJOR player in ww2, and won the war... that is so rediculus it's not even funny.. why is it so hard to admit that russia won the war and had LITTLE help from other countries.... no wonder everyone in north america thinks that they won, it's actually pretty sad

FetishTom 04-02-2006 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
Don't give me that bullshit. Russia was the only country in WWII that defeated Germany ALONE.

That is absurdly simplistic. Russia came damn close to losing Moscow and if the Germans had not had troops committed elsewhere i,e France, North Africa etc then it is likely they would have taken Moscow and Russia would have gone with it. The fact is that the Allies were hugely interdependant - take one of them out of the equation and who knows how events would have turned out. Hitler made the mistake of fighting a war on two fronts and paid the price.

As for the US being unsuccessful at waging war - by themselves - then it is largely correct. To date invading Greneda is the high point.

At all other times even in the Pacific theatre during WWII other nations played a large part, Britain, Australia and other Commonwealth countries were heavily involved.

Its why Britain tags along - just to make sure you do it right! :thumbsup

qwe 04-02-2006 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies
Semantics. The US and Britan let Russia take Berlin. There was a race to Berlin, and the Allies had gotten there first, but allowed Russia to take it per agreement. This is documented as Stalin wanted Berlin, and Britan and the US agreed. There were in position a few days prior, and could have taken it if they wanted.

Sounds like you need to brush up on your history.

:disgust

you probably have american flags all over your house, right ? you can't be serious of what you just wrote... simply put, you're an idiot

qwe 04-02-2006 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FetishTom
That is absurdly simplistic. Russia came damn close to losing Moscow and if the Germans had not had troops committed elsewhere i,e France, North Africa etc then it is likely they would have taken Moscow and Russia would have gone with it. The fact is that the Allies were hugely interdependant - take one of them out of the equation and who knows how events would have turned out. Hitler made the mistake of fighting a war on two fronts and paid the price.

As for the US being unsuccessful at waging war - by themselves - then it is largely correct. To date invading Greneda is the high point.

At all other times even in the Pacific theatre during WWII other nations played a large part, Britain, Australia and other Commonwealth countries were heavily involved.

Its why Britain tags along - just to make sure you do it right! :thumbsup

true that other countries did help, but don't you think saying that usa won the war is complete bullshit ?

JohanTheGreat 04-02-2006 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf
Let me preface this and first say I'm not Jewish.

Why is everyone so afraid of the Jews? I hear Zionism this, Zionism that like they have something to truly fear behind them.

What's the deal?

Afraid? Im not afraid of the jews. I dont care about the jews. Like the rest of all the ppl who believe in a god. But the way Israel was started makes me angry and how the US keep giving aid (money) to Israel is sick, so they can continue to kill and secure the palestinian land.

The land where "israel" is placed belongs to palestinian. 700 thousand muslims lost EVERYTHING they owned because of this shitty country.

Sharon (may he die very soon) is the biggest terrorist on this planet, bigger then bush. He makes Usama Bin Ladin look like a straight up guy!

Many jews support Israel, all of them who does should be jailed, as the muslims who support Al-Quida.

I support the arabic-countries in this question, cause its very easy to see who´s right and not.
Let Saddam take care of thoose jews who support Israel. He knows the drill.

Alex 04-02-2006 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by qwe
thats what they teach in north america that they won ww2, which is COMPLETE bullshit... like 6 years ago when i was in HS here in canada, it was funny how the history teacher kept making it seem like canada was a MAJOR player in ww2, and won the war... that is so rediculus it's not even funny.. why is it so hard to admit that russia won the war and had LITTLE help from other countries.... no wonder everyone in north america thinks that they won, it's actually pretty sad

Are you claiming that i think U.S won the war?

No i read both U.S and Russian History books.

And i know the real deal. W/O russia all you fuckers would still be saluting ot Hitler.

Alex 04-02-2006 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JohanTheGreat
Afraid? Im not afraid of the jews. I dont care about the jews. Like the rest of all the ppl who believe in a god. But the way Israel was started makes me angry and how the US keep giving aid (money) to Israel is sick, so they can continue to kill and secure the palestinian land.

The land where "israel" is placed belongs to palestinian. 700 thousand muslims lost EVERYTHING they owned because of this shitty country.

Sharon (may he die very soon) is the biggest terrorist on this planet, bigger then bush. He makes Usama Bin Ladin look like a straight up guy!

Many jews support Israel, all of them who does should be jailed, as the muslims who support Al-Quida.

I support the arabic-countries in this question, cause its very easy to see who´s right and not.
Let Saddam take care of thoose jews who support Israel. He knows the drill.



So you are anti-semetic. No one gives a shit, Hitler.

crockett 04-02-2006 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard
You can argue who won WWII until your blue in the face. The Russians sure did take the brunt of it, but they were only fighting against one country on a single front while the US was fighting two wars a world apart (Germany and Japan) on multiple fronts (Africa, France, Italy, Denmark, and all of the Pacific).

Hey man, don't mind the little details like that.. :winkwink:

Webby 04-02-2006 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf
I learned two things in this thread.

I learned the term Poofter means gay. I never heard the word before.

I learned Juicylinks may be turning gay. I hope this is not true.

That's all.

:1orglaugh

And that is prob the most meaningful bits anyone could extract from this thread. :1orglaugh

And na... I doubt Juicy is turning gay :winkwink:


I ain't too good on memory stuff, but thought this thread had something to do with Iran?? But hell.. it's another GFY diatribe :)

JohanTheGreat 04-02-2006 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
So you are anti-semetic. No one gives a shit, Hitler.

LOL!
Ignorence is a blizzzzz

Odin 04-02-2006 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FetishTom
That is absurdly simplistic. Russia came damn close to losing Moscow and if the Germans had not had troops committed elsewhere i,e France, North Africa etc then it is likely they would have taken Moscow and Russia would have gone with it. The fact is that the Allies were hugely interdependant - take one of them out of the equation and who knows how events would have turned out. Hitler made the mistake of fighting a war on two fronts and paid the price.

As for the US being unsuccessful at waging war - by themselves - then it is largely correct. To date invading Greneda is the high point.

At all other times even in the Pacific theatre during WWII other nations played a large part, Britain, Australia and other Commonwealth countries were heavily involved.

Its why Britain tags along - just to make sure you do it right! :thumbsup

Regarding Europe in WWII it is certainly true that perhaps the biggest part of the war was played by the Russians, and essentially by an even more murderous leader than Hitler (Stalin). If Russia would have continued to fall as quickly as it was there is no doubt Germany would of won the war. The Russians however, through strength and indeed brutality of their leaders fought and held them off long enough to cause a major disruption.

That said, the USA played an absolutely enormous part in the pacific war, and were it not for them alone Australia would of certainly been conquered by Japan, along with the rest of the nations in the region. Britian, who Australia had relied upon up until that point, was obviously in their own fierce battle and could not truly fight in the pacific, and whilst Australians did fight bravely there isn't any real comparison been the Australian armed forces and the Japanese at that point. So really I think that could certainly be considered a US Military success.

Kevin - The PNN 04-03-2006 01:02 AM

The official start of WW3


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