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Old 04-07-2006, 08:30 PM   #101
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I'm willing to bet money this statement is false.
Kids don't come out of nowhere and purchase $100K of equipment and still only be resellers(no AS# and no owned IP's).
I retract my statement on the 6509's and Junipers. We are infact using PTP's hardware as far as those go to run our BGP. I was incorrect and I had that fact clarified by our server tech. I handle the business end of things and joined the company after the hardware was in place. I was incorrect in stating that we owned those, as I was under the impression that we did until I was corrected. I'm not here to blow smoke up anyones ass and I'll full on admit when i'm wrong.

As far as the "Kids" comment goes, If you're reffering to my age, yes I'm 21. I'm a college graduate, a law school student, and a United States Marine with two tours in Iraq - I highly doubt I would be reffered to as a punk kid.
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I retract my statement on the 6509's and Junipers. We are infact using PTP's hardware as far as those go to run our BGP. I was incorrect and I had that fact clarified by our server tech. I handle the business end of things and joined the company after the hardware was in place. I was incorrect in stating that we owned those, as I was under the impression that we did until I was corrected. I'm not here to blow smoke up anyones ass and I'll full on admit when i'm wrong.

As far as the "Kids" comment goes, If you're reffering to my age, yes I'm 21. I'm a college graduate, a law school student, and a United States Marine with two tours in Iraq - I highly doubt I would be reffered to as a punk kid.
Now the truth comes out...well sort of. You don't run your own BGP. Heck you don't even know what an AS is. For 21 years old you've been quite busy - graduated college, 2 tours in iraq, law school, sales with this company. Where do you find the time?
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As far as the "Kids" comment goes, If you're reffering to my age, yes I'm 21. I'm a college graduate, a law school student, and a United States Marine with two tours in Iraq - I highly doubt I would be reffered to as a punk kid.

The smell of bull shit.


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The smell of bull shit.


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Why do people think we're all dumb? Like anyone with half a brain can smell this bull shit! LMFAO
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The smell of bull shit.


I'd be glad to prove any part of it. DD-214 scan?
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I'd be glad to prove any part of it. DD-214 scan?

Sure please post it! LMFAO


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And by the way, I have my degree at such a young age because I was home schooled - I graduated highschool at age 15 1/2.

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And by the way, I have my degree at such a young age because I was home schooled - I graduated highschool at age 15 1/2.
Shit it gets better and better.

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Why do people think we're all dumb? Like anyone with half a brain can smell this bull shit! LMFAO
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And by the way, I have my degree at such a young age because I was home schooled - I graduated highschool at age 15 1/2.
And you enlisted in the Corps at 16 right? Served both tours before you were 18 I bet!
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Shit it gets better and better.

Do you actually know anyone who was homeschooled? Its quite common to graduate that young.
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And you enlisted in the Corps at 16 right? Served both tours before you were 18 I bet!
No, i went in a month before my 18th birthday. You can enlist at age 17 with parental consent.
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I sure don't.


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Graduating from boot camp - age 18, there ya go. MOS 5711 - Nuclear Biological and Chemical Weapons Specialist. I don't feel like digging up my dd-214 right now and scanning it because someone on a board disbelieves me. I could really care less.
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Graduating from boot camp - age 18, there ya go. MOS 5711 - Nuclear Biological and Chemical Weapons Specialist. I don't feel like digging up my dd-214 right now and scanning it because someone on a board disbelieves me. I could really care less.

Bull shit again you wouldn't have posted this if you did care there buddy. I bet you've done everything I have but 10 times better all so. By the way why can't you spell worth a shit if you're so smart?

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It just keeps getting better and better. Keep digging that hole Marine.
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Come on big boy where did ya go? LMFAO. By the way I have been with Webair for over 5 years and would never move.

Fuck I hate to be rude but fuck it....

www.webair.com is #1 in my book.
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Sometimes you gotta take a stand and call bullshit. It sucks, but you gotta do it.
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wow such hate, I was home schooled too, and you do graduate young, because nothing holds you back, you graduate as soon as your smart enough and fullfill the paperwork....



why attack Dissipate on his hard work as of yet? and to call it bullshit, on what graounds? just to stir shit, I can see it from a fake nick, but why from TA ... maybe i dont open my eyes enough (cataracs (sp?)) but its seems uncharacteristic-like....

Dissipate kick your dog? pee in your bush?
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wow such hate, I was home schooled too, and you do graduate young, because nothing holds you back, you graduate as soon as your smart enough and fullfill the paperwork....



why attack Dissipate on his hard work as of yet? and to call it bullshit, on what graounds? just to stir shit, I can see it from a fake nick, but why from TA ... maybe i dont open my eyes enough (cataracs (sp?)) but its seems uncharacteristic-like....

Dissipate kick your dog? pee in your bush?
Let me help you out here - this post screams of 'kiddie host' which just gives the entire hosting industry a bad rep. When you see crap like this you got to put folks in there rightful place. Customers are tired of being abused, being sold a bill of sale because they trusted what a company was telling them is truthful. Gimme a break.
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wow such hate, I was home schooled too, and you do graduate young, because nothing holds you back, you graduate as soon as your smart enough and fullfill the paperwork....



why attack Dissipate on his hard work as of yet? and to call it bullshit, on what graounds? just to stir shit, I can see it from a fake nick, but why from TA ... maybe i dont open my eyes enough (cataracs (sp?)) but its seems uncharacteristic-like....

Dissipate kick your dog? pee in your bush?

I just smell bullshit so I call bullshit when I see it. You still love me?


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I can see it from a fake nick,
Who's using a fake nick? Just because I'm new here don't mean it isn't on the real.
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Dig it....so the service here you say is unquality, or some facts were mixed up....True it is a new business, true, they are eager....but where is the service bunk or the quality not there? give them a chance, .....

how do you know....besides, obviously faded your from a hosting company, i mean why else this onslaught.....dont you remember when you started? thats if you were with the company your "boasting" in the beginning.....

no disrespect but come and and play nicely, in your own clothes....
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always, just wondering whats up :P have you not gotten a new purse this week?
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Well that's the only time I sell my sig is for Coach!


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Dig it....so the service here you say is unquality, or some facts were mixed up....True it is a new business, true, they are eager....but where is the service bunk or the quality not there? give them a chance, .....

how do you know....besides, obviously faded your from a hosting company, i mean why else this onslaught.....dont you remember when you started? thats if you were with the company your "boasting" in the beginning.....

no disrespect but come and and play nicely, in your own clothes....
My point from the very beginning to these guys has been to keep it truthful. Thats all I'm saying. Peace and chicken grease.
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My point from the very beginning to these guys has been to keep it truthful. Thats all I'm saying. Peace and chicken grease.
looking back i guess i cant say your full of shit.....

so....anyway i have to go....

gotta go see the accountant
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[QUOTE=faded]Now the truth comes out...well sort of. You don't run your own BGP. Heck you don't even know what an AS is. QUOTE]


First of all, Nick didnt make the mistake of the AS, that was me. I am one of the owners in the company long with Nick. My on-staff, on payroll server administrator and I had some confusion when he stated what an AS was over the phone. I heard atomic, he said autonomous. Miscommunication, nothing to kill someone about.

Neither Nick nor I are the top techs in the world, we are out in the public running our companies doing sales and leave the techincal stuff to our server and network admins.

For the record though, OUR network is run by PTP we have stated this time and time again in this thread. PTP runs OUR network, we pull bandwidth from multiple sources including PTP and we hook our switches and what not into their main backbone. If you look at their site, they provide nothing but high-leve colocation and network management.

I can still give you a tour if you want, I will be there monday morning/afternoon installing more servers for the clients we have already got running.

As for my background I have been in the hosting industry since 2000. (proof is my register date on WHT). I also ran UnlimBand.com in 2001-2003 when it was shutdown by multiple lawsuits from outside companies. I didnt have the resources or time to fight these lawsuits. If you go over to WHT you can see that and everything is documented.

What else do you want Mr. Faded? If you still have any problems we can work these out face to face infront of Equinix.

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My point from the very beginning to these guys has been to keep it truthful. Thats all I'm saying. Peace and chicken grease.

Mr Faded, I have no real problems with you other than disrespecting Nick with his background. The main thing is, you started a whole bunch of unnecessary beef, we were truethful from the first post. We exposed everything about us maintaining a network on PTP when someone asked why PTP owned our IP Address space.

Your beating a dead horse here, now I will continue to offer great hosting with the support of a great security name brand like PTP and maintain my own network Tear2Hosting (http://www.tear2hosting.com) and provide everything that is promised by my company.

If anyone needs hosting please contact Nick (nick [a] tear2hosting.com) or call us directly at 240 - 396 - 5208.

Thanks everyone!

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Rumble at Equinix. Rumble at Equinix. You bring your bois and I'll bring mine. ok? bwhahahaha
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For the record though, OUR network is run by PTP we have stated this time and time again in this thread. PTP runs OUR network, we pull bandwidth from multiple sources including PTP and we hook our switches and what not into their main backbone.

I'm curious on a couple points, since you bring them up.

1. What other networks other than PTP are you 'pulling bandwidth from'?

2. You say 'switches' - plural. What kind and how many.

Lets just get it all out in the open and be done with it.
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On Payroll as in, you call up when you need something done and they charge you by the hour? Thats pretty much the definition of smart hands or remote hands etc. Calling them 'on payroll' implies they work directly for your company.
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On Payroll as in, you call up when you need something done and they charge you by the hour? Thats pretty much the definition of smart hands or remote hands etc. Calling them 'on payroll' implies they work directly for your company.
Our server tech does work directly for our company. Thanks though.
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I retract my statement on the 6509's and Junipers. We are infact using PTP's hardware as far as those go to run our BGP. I was incorrect and I had that fact clarified by our server tech. I handle the business end of things and joined the company after the hardware was in place. I was incorrect in stating that we owned those, as I was under the impression that we did until I was corrected. I'm not here to blow smoke up anyones ass and I'll full on admit when i'm wrong.

As far as the "Kids" comment goes, If you're reffering to my age, yes I'm 21. I'm a college graduate, a law school student, and a United States Marine with two tours in Iraq - I highly doubt I would be reffered to as a punk kid.
You are a kid and full of shit. And if I or anyone else didn't call you on it you would have kept on bullshitting people.
If you handled the business end of things you would know wether you spent thousands of dollars on this kind of equipment and not have to ask your "tech".
So is it your tech who writes the checks for this stuff?

You should change your tag under your name to "The dirty Bullshitter"
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You are a kid and full of shit. And if I or anyone else didn't call you on it you would have kept on bullshitting people.
If you handled the business end of things you would know wether you spent thousands of dollars on this kind of equipment and not have to ask your "tech".
So is it your tech who writes the checks for this stuff?

You should change your tag under your name to "The dirty Bullshitter"
I joined the company after any fixed hardware assets were purchased. Right now I'm handling sales and promotions. I don't write the checks for the hardware, nor have I ever physically been in the datacenter. Jim and our other partner handle that end of things. However, thank you for the bump.
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Rumble at Equinix. Rumble at Equinix. You bring your bois and I'll bring mine. ok? bwhahahaha
How professional! Did I ever say Rumble? Or is that what you want to do?

Keep it up keyboard warrior! Keep hiding behind a fake name too, or do you want to expose who you really work for.

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On Payroll as in, you call up when you need something done and they charge you by the hour? Thats pretty much the definition of smart hands or remote hands etc. Calling them 'on payroll' implies they work directly for your company.

I dont even know why I continue to arge with you, but whatever...it gives us page views.

Payroll yes, smart hands NO. We have pretty much a full time tech running our networks, being paid by our company on a salary.



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I'm curious on a couple points, since you bring them up.

1. What other networks other than PTP are you 'pulling bandwidth from'?

2. You say 'switches' - plural. What kind and how many.

Lets just get it all out in the open and be done with it.

1. Through arrangements with PTP we pull a wide variety of bandwidth, those arrangements include a mixture of Cogent, Tiscalis, Nlayer, At&T and many more. We also have our own reps from each company who work closely with us to provide us with bandwidth through PTP's main Equinix pop.

2. Switches - Plural yes. Cisco/Linksys are used on each rack.

Anything else you would like to know?

Thanks!

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Old 04-08-2006, 05:49 PM   #143
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who wants some FoundryNap hosting
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Old 04-08-2006, 07:27 PM   #144
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Our smallest virtual hosting package is $14.99/month and gets you:

1000mb disk space
150 gigs transfer,
2 IP Addresses
Unlimited Email,
Unlimited Domains
Free Cpanel

Additional IPs are just $1 per month

We can also space your IP's out on different class C's upon request!

All our VPS packages run on dual-clustered servers which are loaded with our custom load balancing scheme - no slowdowns like some of the oversold datacenters other providers have.
Hmmm...

**Webair-Starter**
? 2000 MB Storage
? Unrestricted Bandwidth
? 3 Unique IP Address
? Unlimited Email
? Unlimited Domains
? Free Backups
? Free Ecommerce
? Free Control Panel
? 200 GB Transfer
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? $9.95 mo.
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Neutral access to multiple local and long distance carriers, metro area network providers, and to the Webair Global Network...Webair connectivity includes GIG fiber ring to 60 Hudson and, 25 Broadway, 111 8th Ave.

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Global Crossing
Level3 Communications
MCI
ATT
Teleglobe
Teliasonera
Nlayer
NAC
Cogent (separate network)
Cablevision/Lightpath
Con Edison Communications
Keyspan Communications
Looking Glass Networks


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Equinix - NJ
PacketExchange/XchangePoint - London
AMS-IX - Amsterdam


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Old 04-08-2006, 07:41 PM   #145
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Who wants pictures of their gear? Pull the plugs cage is near my cabinets in ashburn G. Also they are in ashburn -F. I have took a camra into equinix before and took pictures.

What is your cage number?? I'll be in equinix ash-G tomarrow (sunday) or monday installing these boys to my cabinet.
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Old 04-08-2006, 07:42 PM   #146
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This has all the signs...
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I'm small only pushing 60mbps but atleast i have my own network.




i have a Gige with BTN and 2 FE's with Verio and sprint that one of my clients brought in on the cisco 2950's

top to bottom. summit 48, DSR2161 kvm over ip, 2x cisco 2950's i have 3 more 2950's going in place this week along with 3 more cross connects and 12 more boxes in the next two weeks.
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Old 04-08-2006, 07:44 PM   #148
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ohhhh and also that bottom server in the rack is Chio's new server. Ask for proof and ye shall receives.

If anyone wants dedicated hosting let me know. I'm not the cheapest but i garrentee you'll love the service level.
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Old 04-08-2006, 10:59 PM   #149
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Hmmm...

**Webair-Starter**
? 2000 MB Storage
? Unrestricted Bandwidth
? 3 Unique IP Address
? Unlimited Email
? Unlimited Domains
? Free Backups
? Free Ecommerce
? Free Control Panel
? 200 GB Transfer
? Free Shopping Cart
? $9.95 mo.
? $9.95 setup

Hit me up if your interested!...own network own datacenters...tier one bandwidth with cogent on separate gig networks with auto failover to tier one network...

Connectivity:

Neutral access to multiple local and long distance carriers, metro area network providers, and to the Webair Global Network...Webair connectivity includes GIG fiber ring to 60 Hudson and, 25 Broadway, 111 8th Ave.

Carrier Roster:

Global Crossing
Level3 Communications
MCI
ATT
Teleglobe
Teliasonera
Nlayer
NAC
Cogent (separate network)
Cablevision/Lightpath
Con Edison Communications
Keyspan Communications
Looking Glass Networks


Peering Locations:
NYIIX - NY
Equinix - NJ
PacketExchange/XchangePoint - London
AMS-IX - Amsterdam


Don't forget webair's meet or beat guarantee to meet or beat any COMPARABLE hosting offer...

Industrial Strength Web Hosting since 1996!

Alright, I guess its okay to follow all of your posts as well and hijack your threads too then.



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