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John69 03-29-2006 09:36 AM

they quit proccessing it looks like.


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CDSmith 03-29-2006 09:39 AM

A better quesion might be...

"Will I win the lottery on March 29th?"


or


"Will I be hit by lightning?"


How about


"Will Donald Trump get a new hairstyle?"

DebsDeep 03-29-2006 09:50 AM

hmm seems strange doesnt it

Screaming 03-29-2006 10:52 AM

bump for the truth

chadglni 03-29-2006 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debsdeepthroat
Well I suppose we will see today huh?
If they dont pay they will never have another chance at making anytype of arrangments with anyone, they will be totally screwed.

Same thing I thought the last 43 times they pulled similar. But for some reason idiots keep trusting them.

chadglni 03-29-2006 10:58 AM

If I were Ibill I would wire you guys the binary for "fuck off" to help you get the hint. Damn what does it take to make you see you aren't getting shit?

DebsDeep 03-29-2006 11:01 AM

clocks ticking

DebsDeep 03-29-2006 11:15 AM

hey...I dont process with them...I am not an idiot...The idiots are people that simply stand back and say things like that and let them get away with it...Why sit back and so oh well, i learned my lesson, I would much rather stop or at least warn anyone else from falling into their traps.

If I can help someone out i will....

imageman 03-29-2006 11:21 AM

My suggestion for what its worth is that anyone still using Iballs even just for re bills should log into the CMI and make copys of all your members and any other information you need. If they go belly up to-day the servers will go down and all that info will be lost. You can at least e-mail existing members to ask them to switch to Epoch or CCbill.

DebsDeep 03-29-2006 11:59 AM

well not me, i cancelled allo rebills back when this whole thing first started happening in oct 2004
But hes right, get your info while you can

directfiesta 03-29-2006 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imageman
My suggestion for what its worth is that anyone still using Iballs even just for re bills should log into the CMI and make copys of all your members and any other information you need. If they go belly up to-day the servers will go down and all that info will be lost. You can at least e-mail existing members to ask them to switch to Epoch or CCbill.

Probably right ... But my rebills are like members from 2 years ago or more ...

Doubtfull they even realize what that monthly charge is ...

Every time I get a wire from Symetrex ( or whatever ) , it reminds me I should buy a loto ticket ....

John69 03-29-2006 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
Probably right ... But my rebills are like members from 2 years ago or more ...

Doubtfull they even realize what that monthly charge is ...

Every time I get a wire from Symetrex ( or whatever ) , it reminds me I should buy a loto ticket ....


it would be hard to get a member that has been charged for over 2 years to switch i bet., that is all i have left with them, is some old ones i could not move over.

Screaming 03-29-2006 02:11 PM

any news here?

MacDaddyPlaya 03-29-2006 02:23 PM

Interactive Brand Development Subsidiary, iBill to Outsource Payment Processing
 
--Interactive Brand Development, Inc. (OTCBB:IBDI - News) announced today, that its wholly-owned subsidiary, Internet Billing Company, LLC (iBill) will begin outsourcing its on-line payment processing to etelegate.com, an unrelated third party processor.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060329/20060329005502.html?.v=1

mudi 03-29-2006 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
They don't care about principal, so even less interest ...

If I know I will not repay a loan that somebody will give me, do you think I care about the terms ... I just care about pushing the payments back ...

Move on. It's over.:2 cents:

Your 100% right about that!

mudi 03-29-2006 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by precise
Would not be surprised if Ibill just ignores their liabilities completely now.
The ?new new? Ibill people like Michelle (providing she is still with them) won?t ?have a clue what you are talking about??
They will hardly even bother posting a ?fuck you? notice on CMI?
They could not care less for a bunch of wankers whining here ? us?
Unless you sue them, there is not a slightest chance to get a penny?
If enough people sue they go belly up, and that will at least put an end to this endless agony and disgrace.

That is interesting,... the people that sued IBILL all got payed, but the people that stuck it out with them dont get shit!

iBanker 03-29-2006 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mudi
That is interesting,... the people that sued IBILL all got payed, but the people that stuck it out with them dont get shit!

Why is that interesting? Its common fucking sense.

aico 03-29-2006 03:11 PM

Funny I just got this today:
 
Wednesday March 29, 2006


Dear iBill Client,
In an effort to continue to offer the newest advances in online payment processing iBill is pleased to announce that we have outsourced our processing arm to Etelegate; an online payment processor with a new, much improved, gateway solution.

Etelegate?s gateway will enable us to continue to offer the full range of products that you?re used to; credit card, check and Web900 transaction processing along with some additional features.

Here are some of the highlights of the new software:
Better conversion rates
Real-time check processing (this protects clients from all NSFsand Chargebacks)
Reliable automated payment system that automatically sends you anemail once your settlement has been processed
In-depth risk reporting to notify you when problems arise
Extensive customer support ticket follow-up system which ensuresno customer will go un-serviced

We?re excited about being able to offer you these additional features and the migration to the new system is scheduled to begin this week.

Check your inbox as Etelegate will be sending you an email with all the details on what you need to do to successfully integrate with this new system.

Thank you,
Your iBill Team

Webby 03-29-2006 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico
Wednesday March 29, 2006


Dear iBill Client,
In an effort to continue to offer the newest advances in online payment processing iBill is pleased to announce that we have outsourced our processing arm to Etelegate; an online payment processor with a new, much improved, gateway solution. Blah blah...

More bullshit, squirming and sliding in the swamp.

Spaniak, Markley, Gallanis, Molina and all associates need a short term in custody to answer questions while further investigation continues.

John69 03-29-2006 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mudi
That is interesting,... the people that sued IBILL all got payed, but the people that stuck it out with them dont get shit!


I feel the same way, carma will comeback 10 fold if they dont pay webmasters.

Drake 03-29-2006 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mudi
That is interesting,... the people that sued IBILL all got payed, but the people that stuck it out with them dont get shit!

Who has sued them?

mudi 03-29-2006 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike33
Who has sued them?


I had the link to the news story, I have to look for it. But it was a few adult companies. 2 of them was very large adult companies.

mudi 03-29-2006 04:02 PM

I also had the names of some of the big well known Law Firms they were using down there in FL.

imageman 03-29-2006 04:06 PM

I got the same crap no mention of the money owed. No wires nothing !!!! This Etelegate company is obviously in bed with Iballs and is one that should be avoided at all costs. Im adding their name to my warning site to let others know they are processing for Iballs.. Doesn't matter how good their gateway is if you don't get your money, now does it ? I replied with a GFY


Quote:

Originally Posted by aico
Wednesday March 29, 2006


Dear iBill Client,
In an effort to continue to offer the newest advances in online payment processing iBill is pleased to announce that we have outsourced our processing arm to Etelegate; an online payment processor with a new, much improved, gateway solution.

Etelegate?s gateway will enable us to continue to offer the full range of products that you?re used to; credit card, check and Web900 transaction processing along with some additional features.

Here are some of the highlights of the new software:
Better conversion rates
Real-time check processing (this protects clients from all NSFsand Chargebacks)
Reliable automated payment system that automatically sends you anemail once your settlement has been processed
In-depth risk reporting to notify you when problems arise
Extensive customer support ticket follow-up system which ensuresno customer will go un-serviced

We?re excited about being able to offer you these additional features and the migration to the new system is scheduled to begin this week.

Check your inbox as Etelegate will be sending you an email with all the details on what you need to do to successfully integrate with this new system.

Thank you,
Your iBill Team


FUCKED_BY_IBILL 03-29-2006 09:30 PM

IN MEMORY OF IBILL 1996 to 2006
MAY YOU BURN IN HELL

CDSmith 03-29-2006 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUCKED_BY_IBILL
IN MEMORY OF IBILL 1996 to 2006
MAY YOU BURN IN HELL

Some believe they were pronounced dead long before 2006.

These past 6 months have been nothing but twitches from rigormortis setting in.

John69 03-29-2006 09:58 PM

no wires here, where's the MONEY?

DebsDeep 03-30-2006 05:05 AM

So its official.....The notes were not honored
Todd Gravelle and the gang lies like hell huh

Verotel 03-30-2006 05:08 AM

LMAO :1orglaugh

Nicky 03-30-2006 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verotel
LMAO :1orglaugh

Thank god for Verotel :)

John69 03-30-2006 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky
Thank god for Verotel :)


no thank god for epoch/paycom:thumbsup

DebsDeep 03-30-2006 05:59 AM

Wee its really sad for the people out there that really relied on this money, Sorry bit I dont find the humor in it, some of you may but ok, Guess thats why the world is the way it is
I knew people that lost everything because of these guys, wouldnt be so funny if it would have been you huh.
Sad guys ....sad

Verotel 03-30-2006 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debsdeepthroat
Wee its really sad for the people out there that really relied on this money, Sorry bit I dont find the humor in it, some of you may but ok, Guess thats why the world is the way it is
I knew people that lost everything because of these guys, wouldnt be so funny if it would have been you huh.
Sad guys ....sad

To clear up any misunderstanding, my post was in reference to the pics SK posted. I literally laughed my ass off seeing a picture of a pig flying and hell freezing over - guess it requires a sense of humor.

For the record, it does suck for the webmasters that lost money.

John69 03-30-2006 12:11 PM

Any new news ?

Gerco 03-30-2006 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico
Wednesday March 29, 2006


Dear iBill Client,
In an effort to continue to offer the newest advances in online payment processing iBill is pleased to announce that we have outsourced our processing arm to Etelegate; an online payment processor with a new, much improved, gateway solution.

Etelegate?s gateway will enable us to continue to offer the full range of products that you?re used to; credit card, check and Web900 transaction processing along with some additional features.

Here are some of the highlights of the new software:
Better conversion rates
Real-time check processing (this protects clients from all NSFsand Chargebacks)
Reliable automated payment system that automatically sends you anemail once your settlement has been processed
In-depth risk reporting to notify you when problems arise
Extensive customer support ticket follow-up system which ensuresno customer will go un-serviced

We?re excited about being able to offer you these additional features and the migration to the new system is scheduled to begin this week.

Check your inbox as Etelegate will be sending you an email with all the details on what you need to do to successfully integrate with this new system.

Thank you,
Your iBill Team


Yup, got this same email. They still owe me over 10k, untill I see that :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh There is no way I would even think of moving over to yet ANOTHER new solution. Is anyone hear actually thinking doing this? All my links with Ibill are history. Yes late, but I was trying to at least recoup some of the money. On another note, I'm looking in adding another GOOD processor to my list, Already use CCbill, WTS, Paycom, myvirtualcard and passwordbyphone. Anyone one out there that would like to fill the hole ibill "gcard" left?

pr0 03-30-2006 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerco
Anyone one out there that would like to fill the hole ibill "gcard" left?

They didn't leave any new holes, they just stretched out existing assholes. For what 2 years?

Gerco 03-30-2006 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
They didn't leave any new holes, they just stretched out existing assholes. For what 2 years?

Ah, totally fucked. We are still looking for a lawfirm to handle a suit against them. Have all the information etc so should be pretty open and shut, If anyone has names of a good firm to use post it. Other firms have been posted but in calling all of them none has panned out so far.

potter 03-30-2006 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBanker
Why is that interesting? Its common fucking sense.

100% agreed. I find it amusing there are people who have not gone to a lawyer.

John69 03-31-2006 09:00 AM

todays bump

FUCKED_BY_IBILL 03-31-2006 11:12 AM

Its too late for lawyers now. We will never see any of the money the owe us. The only available option left is to storm IBILL office and bash in some heads. I will start with the fucking secretary who never gives me an accurate answer or lets me talk with anyone else. Right now, IM out about 23K, and it will give me great pleasure to see them all laying in blood.

Webby 03-31-2006 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUCKED_BY_IBILL
Its too late for lawyers now. We will never see any of the money the owe us. The only available option left is to storm IBILL office and bash in some heads. I will start with the fucking secretary who never gives me an accurate answer or lets me talk with anyone else. Right now, IM out about 23K, and it will give me great pleasure to see them all laying in blood.

So... you got some feelings left in the relationship with the secretary? :1orglaugh

Seriously, check out a non-naive lawyer or perhaps an ex-lawdog with legal qualifications within the State of Florida (basically cos they *have* to know the legal loopholes in that state) and tell your story (this needs to be fully documented and factual with no bullshit/rumor). After that, ask what options there are to present paperwork before a nice judge and get an order to remove property (if any remains) belonging to iBill and sell this in payment of due debt.

The above is possible in some states without a load of bullshit procedural crap - a charming gun-totting lady para legal ex-lawdog did exactly that for me, tho this was not in Florida.

If you want to act/check it out - do it now - time is meaningful and better ya stay on the side of the law and come out with a happy result.

Morphious 04-03-2006 08:41 AM

ok, Was on the phone with them for 4 hours ( mainly on hold ), got to one of the Managers for Ibill.

He stated that they are having daily meetings on this, there intention is to pay everyone, They are trying to figure out how, but the new integration of the gateway has swamped them... They said they Will be posting something on this Monday or Tuesday..

Sounds like the Same BS to me.

So here is what I told them. If they want to stay in business and Not be sued by a whole bunch of more pissed off people, they Better do something ASAP and that means Cash, as No one wants another note, or worthless penny stocks in your company.

They said they 100% understand this... ( gee.. as if they shouldn't ) and was not even offended by my tone.

So here is what I have came up with my self. Suing them for the original amount is worthless and to much of a hassle, BUT they can be sued for defaulting on the Note! they Still have assets, a paper trail to more assets, and an income stream. Will have to check on this one, but in some states you can even sue the owners directly and personally.. ( if this does not work, it will sure make them wake up! )

So I will call them back in a day or two to ask for status on this, If I get nothing back, I ( me and partner ) will procede with our law suit against them. They owe us over $40K still on these notes.

Drake 04-03-2006 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morphious
He stated that they are having daily meetings on this, there intention is to pay everyone, They are trying to figure out how, but the new integration of the gateway has swamped them... They said they Will be posting something on this Monday or Tuesday..

Sounds like the Same BS to me.

So I will call them back in a day or two to ask for status on this, If I get nothing back, I ( me and partner ) will procede with our law suit against them. They owe us over $40K still on these notes.

If you're going to sue them do it now. You're not going to get your $40k from the notes. It's been 2 years now. The note specifically says you will be paid on a certain date. You signed that note one year ago. If the money was not in your bank account on March 29th, it never will be. It's a hard pill to swallow, and I know many people that have lost money with Ibill. The truth is, you'll never get it if you're still expecting them to pay it. They've been 'in meetings' and having 'gateway issues' for years now 'trying to resolve the payout problems'... hint hint

XX_RydeR 04-03-2006 09:03 AM

Iball, are a joke not worth laughing at.

If you are owed money, do something about it, pretty simple right ?

FUCKED_BY_IBILL 04-03-2006 10:44 AM

I just called IBILL now, they no longer respond to calls. All I got was a canned mesage. No live support, no secretary, no nothing!!! NO MORE IBILL, NO MORE MONEY, NO NOTHING.

Mr Dickovitch 04-03-2006 11:34 AM

Did these cocksuckers go bankrupt yet?
:321GFY you Ibill!

Fetish Gimp 04-03-2006 11:55 AM

It seems the house of cards is finally coming down

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=14204

Quote:

IBill Parent Says It Needs to Restate Earnings for 4 Quarters

DEERFIELD BEACH, Fla. ? Interactive Brand Development reported in a filing to the Securities and Exchange Commission that it needs to restate its financial statements for the last four quarters.

With the filing, the company also said a recent audit by a third-party accounting firm found that previous accounting numbers could sink the value of its investments in Penthouse Media Group and Interactive Television Network Inc., which markets XTV. It also could threaten those companies? financial viability.

John69 04-03-2006 12:04 PM

March is over, no money.

DebsDeep 04-07-2006 04:46 AM

there is suppose to be an "email" coming out explianing everything....
Whats to explain besides keeping the agreement they already made...
lets see...they didnt pay us if the winter of 2004/2005...they promise to make it up on march 29th 2006,whats next? I really hope they dont intend to try another promise....good gawd...
Seriously you guys.....I think someone is retarded somewhere

joey3001 04-17-2006 10:16 AM

anyone get paid?


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