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First, a little background, a while ago I met aaronM and worked out a deal with him for some content. At the time I thought it was a good deal, which I take fault for. Anyways, we agreed on 4500 for 750 sets of content which he said were 65,000 images. So I wire him the 4500 dollars, and immediately he tells me that it was US funds, the currency was never discussed and I never gave it any thought before that. Some of you will say it was my fault, but when I dealt with lightspeed regarding my first model, we never said which currency and I just assumed it was Canadian, and I was right. I think the currency issue was equally both of our faults. Regardless, right after he received the wire transfer he informed it was US funds and I explained to him sorry, but I can?t afford to spend that much on content. There was NO problem with that with him, he said it was okay and that I could get the site up, established, and making sales? and yes that is documented on icq that he was completely fine with that deal.
So the content we agreed on was cute teen, girl next door content. He shows me a bunch of samples of the content, and it was perfect. A month goes by because of his ?shipping problems? and he can?t upload the content for me to download because his ?internet is too slow?. At this point I ask for a refund, and if he didn?t want to send a refund then to at least give me a tracking number. Anyways a week later I receive the content, and lets say I was VERY disappointed with what was delivered, what we had agreed on and what samples I were shown was not what I received. If I could go back and ask to see 1 pic of every girl that would have been the proper thing to do, but I would have thought the samples he would have shown me would somewhat resemble the content I was sent. When I received the content, not only was it 60k images instead of 65k images, but it was full of BBW / GOTH / HAIRY / NASTY girls, even a PREGNANT set, and his defence to that what ?this is good amateur content, this stuff converts, and if you can?t make this stuff convert you shouldn?t be doing adult? now that is correct, I?m sure the content DOES convert, but that content is NOT what I had asked for. And he tells me ?it is girl next door content, because it?s possible a pregnant girl lives next door?. I offered to post some samples on GFY and let the forum decide if it was girl next door content. I post some samples of the content I got, and what does he do? He contacts my web host and tells them to remove the content because I?m using them illegally and don?t have licenses for them, and tells me he?s suing me for libel and copy-write infringement. He also icqs me and tells me if I make a thread and apologize and basically say I?m wrong, that he?ll consider dropping the lawsuit? So let me get this straight, If I was happy with the content I could have gone forth and made the paysite and everything would be dandy, but since I was unhappy with the content he sold me, I get threatened with a lawsuit. How professional. ANYONE that I have dealt with can vouch that I don?t fuck anyone around when it comes to business. I?ve had no problem paying people upfront for things and sticking to my arrangements. In my short time in adult I?ve done a lot of networking and met a lot of very helpful people, to which I am extremely thankful. I do NOT bullshit, or lie about anything. I make it a point to be very blunt and honest, because life is to short to sugar coat things and I live by that. If I ever would wanted to fuck someone over, I would have done it to Dark Jedi at the time I did a deal with him, he wired me 700 dollars and I hated him at the time also. But I still didn?t fuck him over and bounce with the money, even though I was new to adult and could have disappeared without it affecting me at all. Now Aaron kept trying to pick fights with me after our previous drama, to which I responded ?listen, fighting with you online is not going to solve anything, I?ll send you the rest of the money and we don?t have to talk again? to which he responded, ?fuck you, even if you send me the remainder of the money, I wont send you the licences to the content, and you are lucky I am not suing you? Now I made this post against a lot of people?s advice that Aaron would be childish and never let it go and shit over any thing you ever post about, but I needed to post this to finish it and move on? So Aaron, keep the 3600, I don?t even WANT that money back? I honestly wouldn?t accept it back even if you fell and bumped your head and decided to give it back to me, to show that even though I don?t have a lot of money, I am NOT a liar, and I have never lied about anything or gone against my word? a man without his word is a punk bitch. Dealing with you has been exactly they way one would expect by reading your latest barrage of attacks on people, basically you are always right or you will do everything you can to attack someone. So enjoy the 3600, and maybe someone will remember this before dealing with you, and remember I have nothing to gain by lying about my dealings with you, if anything this is damaging to me because I?m certain all your sheep will jump over this, but anyways, have a nice life, and you have lots of work to do on your business ethics.
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had to throw my last thoughts on that before i ended it..
and.... Sig Spot and grow up with all your fighting on gfy
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No way im reading that... especially since it sounds like old drama...
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sonofsam, you really believe that internet commerce is conducted in canadian dollars?
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Theres a lot of trust in doing business online and once its breached it makes it harder for everyone in the business. Sucks plain and simple..
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oh and another thing i'd like to add was that Content Producer was a great guy, and sent me a content CD for me to use for filler on my solo site, without even discussing payment or pricing or anything, said take my time, and pay him whenever i want... now THAT is true class, from a stand up guy
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thats a lot of money to just walk away from. too bad you got shitted on.
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I thought this shit was settled... since I havn't seen anything posted nor updated about it for a while now.
SoS -- no ego talking here, just simple honesty...... had you taken my advice in that other thread many weeks ago you would have saved yourself a lot of headache and anguish. You were, however, hell-bent on ignoring everything I and several others said, so you are where you are because of your own choices dude. And for the record, you best live and learn about the currency of online transactions. Unless the person or site specifically specifies it or offers a choice of options, the standard currency used for online transactions is USD, period. NO if's, and's or but's about it. Good luck from here on out...
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I like AaronM, i've hung out with the guy, he's a class act in my opinion.
But it seems to me like sonofsam has no content, & AaronM is $3600 richer. If i'm wrong, please correct me. Set me straight Aaron.
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Oh my here we go again.
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if you ask for cute teen girl next door content, I really dont see how pregnant content fits in at all... Id like to here what aaronm has to say about this.
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One thing I can't remember from the original debacle.. Was sos buying a package deal? like "all" available content? Cause I don't know about anyone else, but if I'm buying all the content someone has, I don't expect it to all be one particular niche. |
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CDSmith: i understand that, but it was my noob mistake, but keep in mind that is not even the problem... that was resolved right away and aaron had no problem with it.. that happened at the beginning... we were completely 100% cool till the content came and i was unhappy with it... the currency issue was a n00b mistake on my part in the beginning, and i take responsibility ofr it.. but thats not the issue at hand
but yah, i just needed to get this thread over and done with so i can move on with things.... anyone who i've dealt with (with the exception of aaron, lol) can vouch that i don't fuck around with business... DarkJedi - should have jacked when i had the chance, haha.... Q-Man - paid before any work was ever done Webmaster Labor - paid before anything was ever done i know my list is short, but comon.. i'm new! haha and it was my trust i had that i even wired aaronM all that money with no contract or paperwork, or before recieving anything... you know...
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How does having content & not being able to use it .....any different than not having it?
I'm fucking confused. Please someone send AaronM in here to give an intelligent disposition of what exactly the reasoning for this kid being out of $/or content is. |
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heres another fun fact, in the old drama thread... he offered to refund me for the bald girl sets that were in there.. now WHY would he offer to refund a portion of the sets if "i knew exactly what i was getting" ... funny isn't it?
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And sonofsam, whats this talk of "jacking" dark jedi, that sounds just as unprofessional as the case you are making against AaronM
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AaronM is in another thread owning Alien Q, which would explain why he is not in this thread.
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But once again, i'm sure Aaron can clear this up...excuse my ignorance, but this is the first time i've heard about this case. |
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It was a good bad and ugly special. Ad sonofsam, regardless of the outcome of this you're just makiing yourself look like someone people should avoid dealing with. Even your biggest supporter on that last thread iwantchixx wanted you to just STFU and settle things quietly and out of the view of the public. |
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He been getting owned all day. Ya should goto the real parts of why it's all official. AaronM made a new enemy today, I didnt ask for it. But he got it now... AaronM is a fucken poser.
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thats why i say fuck the 3600 i gave him, i'll snap the content cds he gave me... oh and donovan was happy with the content? the same donovan that is a great friend of aarons and a fellow content producer? ahh i see
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Thats a ton of cash to just waste.
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Oh ok...so now we take peoples $ on technicalities huh?
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"When I received the content, not only was it 60k images instead of 65k images, but it was full of BBW / GOTH / HAIRY / NASTY girls, even a PREGNANT set, and his defence to that what ?this is good amateur content, this stuff converts, and if you can?t make this stuff convert you shouldn?t be doing adult?
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Just for the record
AaronM is good people, & i'd have no problem doing business with him. In fact i plan on it in the near future.
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