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Old 05-22-2005, 07:55 PM   #1
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First, a little background, a while ago I met aaronM and worked out a deal with him for some content. At the time I thought it was a good deal, which I take fault for. Anyways, we agreed on 4500 for 750 sets of content which he said were 65,000 images. So I wire him the 4500 dollars, and immediately he tells me that it was US funds, the currency was never discussed and I never gave it any thought before that. Some of you will say it was my fault, but when I dealt with lightspeed regarding my first model, we never said which currency and I just assumed it was Canadian, and I was right. I think the currency issue was equally both of our faults. Regardless, right after he received the wire transfer he informed it was US funds and I explained to him sorry, but I can?t afford to spend that much on content. There was NO problem with that with him, he said it was okay and that I could get the site up, established, and making sales? and yes that is documented on icq that he was completely fine with that deal.

So the content we agreed on was cute teen, girl next door content. He shows me a bunch of samples of the content, and it was perfect. A month goes by because of his ?shipping problems? and he can?t upload the content for me to download because his ?internet is too slow?. At this point I ask for a refund, and if he didn?t want to send a refund then to at least give me a tracking number. Anyways a week later I receive the content, and lets say I was VERY disappointed with what was delivered, what we had agreed on and what samples I were shown was not what I received. If I could go back and ask to see 1 pic of every girl that would have been the proper thing to do, but I would have thought the samples he would have shown me would somewhat resemble the content I was sent. When I received the content, not only was it 60k images instead of 65k images, but it was full of BBW / GOTH / HAIRY / NASTY girls, even a PREGNANT set, and his defence to that what ?this is good amateur content, this stuff converts, and if you can?t make this stuff convert you shouldn?t be doing adult? now that is correct, I?m sure the content DOES convert, but that content is NOT what I had asked for. And he tells me ?it is girl next door content, because it?s possible a pregnant girl lives next door?. I offered to post some samples on GFY and let the forum decide if it was girl next door content. I post some samples of the content I got, and what does he do? He contacts my web host and tells them to remove the content because I?m using them illegally and don?t have licenses for them, and tells me he?s suing me for libel and copy-write infringement. He also icqs me and tells me if I make a thread and apologize and basically say I?m wrong, that he?ll consider dropping the lawsuit?

So let me get this straight, If I was happy with the content I could have gone forth and made the paysite and everything would be dandy, but since I was unhappy with the content he sold me, I get threatened with a lawsuit. How professional.

ANYONE that I have dealt with can vouch that I don?t fuck anyone around when it comes to business. I?ve had no problem paying people upfront for things and sticking to my arrangements.

In my short time in adult I?ve done a lot of networking and met a lot of very helpful people, to which I am extremely thankful. I do NOT bullshit, or lie about anything. I make it a point to be very blunt and honest, because life is to short to sugar coat things and I live by that.

If I ever would wanted to fuck someone over, I would have done it to Dark Jedi at the time I did a deal with him, he wired me 700 dollars and I hated him at the time also. But I still didn?t fuck him over and bounce with the money, even though I was new to adult and could have disappeared without it affecting me at all.

Now Aaron kept trying to pick fights with me after our previous drama, to which I responded ?listen, fighting with you online is not going to solve anything, I?ll send you the rest of the money and we don?t have to talk again? to which he responded, ?fuck you, even if you send me the remainder of the money, I wont send you the licences to the content, and you are lucky I am not suing you?

Now I made this post against a lot of people?s advice that Aaron would be childish and never let it go and shit over any thing you ever post about, but I needed to post this to finish it and move on?

So Aaron, keep the 3600, I don?t even WANT that money back? I honestly wouldn?t accept it back even if you fell and bumped your head and decided to give it back to me, to show that even though I don?t have a lot of money, I am NOT a liar, and I have never lied about anything or gone against my word? a man without his word is a punk bitch.

Dealing with you has been exactly they way one would expect by reading your latest barrage of attacks on people, basically you are always right or you will do everything you can to attack someone.

So enjoy the 3600, and maybe someone will remember this before dealing with you, and remember I have nothing to gain by lying about my dealings with you, if anything this is damaging to me because I?m certain all your sheep will jump over this, but anyways, have a nice life, and you have lots of work to do on your business ethics.
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Old 05-22-2005, 07:56 PM   #2
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Old 05-22-2005, 07:56 PM   #3
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had to throw my last thoughts on that before i ended it..

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Old 05-22-2005, 07:58 PM   #4
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Old 05-22-2005, 07:59 PM   #5
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Dude you have a lot of posts.
i'm just crazy like that
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Old 05-22-2005, 08:00 PM   #7
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No way im reading that... especially since it sounds like old drama...

Now let see a emu !
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sonofsam, you really believe that internet commerce is conducted in canadian dollars?
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Theres a lot of trust in doing business online and once its breached it makes it harder for everyone in the business. Sucks plain and simple..
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sonofsam, you really believe that internet commerce is conducted in canadian dollars?
i had dealt with lightspeed in canadian before, without ever having to talk about the currency
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Old 05-22-2005, 08:03 PM   #12
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Old 05-22-2005, 08:03 PM   #13
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sonofsam, you really believe that internet commerce is conducted in canadian dollars?
I was wondering the same thing..that is extremley rare..I thought this was dealt with already
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sonofsam, you really believe that internet commerce is conducted in canadian dollars?
It's not uncommon for newbies to be confused about something like this... On the other hand.. with over 6k posts you'd think he would have been smarter than that...
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oh and another thing i'd like to add was that Content Producer was a great guy, and sent me a content CD for me to use for filler on my solo site, without even discussing payment or pricing or anything, said take my time, and pay him whenever i want... now THAT is true class, from a stand up guy thanks a shitload bro, wont ever forget that
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thats a lot of money to just walk away from. too bad you got shitted on.
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It's not uncommon for newbies to be confused about something like this... On the other hand.. with over 6k posts you'd think he would have been smarter than that...
like i said, that was something i take fault for... but that isn't even the issue at hand... that was resolved RIGHT away.. then a month later when the content arrived is where the problem started..
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I thought this shit was settled... since I havn't seen anything posted nor updated about it for a while now.

SoS -- no ego talking here, just simple honesty...... had you taken my advice in that other thread many weeks ago you would have saved yourself a lot of headache and anguish. You were, however, hell-bent on ignoring everything I and several others said, so you are where you are because of your own choices dude.


And for the record, you best live and learn about the currency of online transactions. Unless the person or site specifically specifies it or offers a choice of options, the standard currency used for online transactions is USD, period. NO if's, and's or but's about it.

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I like AaronM, i've hung out with the guy, he's a class act in my opinion.

But it seems to me like sonofsam has no content, & AaronM is $3600 richer.

If i'm wrong, please correct me. Set me straight Aaron.
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I like AaronM, i've hung out with the guy, he's a class act in my opinion.

But it seems to me like sonofsam has no content, & AaronM is $3600 richer.

If i'm wrong, please correct me. Set me straight Aaron.
You are absolutely correct.
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if you ask for cute teen girl next door content, I really dont see how pregnant content fits in at all... Id like to here what aaronm has to say about this.
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But it seems to me like sonofsam has no content, & AaronM is $3600 richer.
He has content.. Just can't use it... But as far as I know that's the way things stand...

One thing I can't remember from the original debacle.. Was sos buying a package deal? like "all" available content? Cause I don't know about anyone else, but if I'm buying all the content someone has, I don't expect it to all be one particular niche.
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CDSmith: i understand that, but it was my noob mistake, but keep in mind that is not even the problem... that was resolved right away and aaron had no problem with it.. that happened at the beginning... we were completely 100% cool till the content came and i was unhappy with it... the currency issue was a n00b mistake on my part in the beginning, and i take responsibility ofr it.. but thats not the issue at hand

but yah, i just needed to get this thread over and done with so i can move on with things....

anyone who i've dealt with (with the exception of aaron, lol) can vouch that i don't fuck around with business...

DarkJedi - should have jacked when i had the chance, haha....
Q-Man - paid before any work was ever done
Webmaster Labor - paid before anything was ever done

i know my list is short, but comon.. i'm new! haha

and it was my trust i had that i even wired aaronM all that money with no contract or paperwork, or before recieving anything... you know...
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if you ask for cute teen girl next door content, I really dont see how pregnant content fits in at all... Id like to here what aaronm has to say about this.
If I recall, the content was a special deal..you take the good the bad and the ugly....and sonofsam wasn't understanding that.
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How does having content & not being able to use it .....any different than not having it?

I'm fucking confused.

Please someone send AaronM in here to give an intelligent disposition of what exactly the reasoning for this kid being out of $/or content is.
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He has content.. Just can't use it... But as far as I know that's the way things stand...

One thing I can't remember from the original debacle.. Was sos buying a package deal? like "all" available content? Cause I don't know about anyone else, but if I'm buying all the content someone has, I don't expect it to all be one particular niche.
i asked for cute teen girl next door content, and he showed me JUST THAT... regardless if he is saying "he knew there was goth content" hes lying 100% about that.. he showed me a sample page on ampcontent.com that had a shitload of sets as examples...

heres another fun fact, in the old drama thread... he offered to refund me for the bald girl sets that were in there.. now WHY would he offer to refund a portion of the sets if "i knew exactly what i was getting" ... funny isn't it?
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And sonofsam, whats this talk of "jacking" dark jedi, that sounds just as unprofessional as the case you are making against AaronM
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AaronM is in another thread owning Alien Q, which would explain why he is not in this thread.

I am going in to start making my pancake mix now
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If I recall, the content was a special deal..you take the good the bad and the ugly....and sonofsam wasn't understanding that.
sorry, wrong... thats what he SAID... but thats not what was agreed on. if that was the deal, why did he offer to refund the BALD girl sets in that last drama thread? it doesn't make sense.
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And sonofsam, whats this talk of "jacking" dark jedi, that sounds just as unprofessional as the case you are making against AaronM
lol that was a joke, i had problems with the guy at the time of the deal.. but i still stuck to my deal and came through..

the jackin him was a joke
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If I recall, the content was a special deal..you take the good the bad and the ugly....and sonofsam wasn't understanding that.
Showing someone cute girls as examples of the entire package & then giving them random other content is commonly referred to as a bait & switch.

But once again, i'm sure Aaron can clear this up...excuse my ignorance, but this is the first time i've heard about this case.
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Showing someone cute girls as examples of the entire package & then giving them random other content is commonly referred to as a bait & switch.

But once again, i'm sure Aaron can clear this up...excuse my ignorance, but this is the first time i've heard about this case.
It was the same deal he had offered on a few occassions, Donovan Phillips bought it too and was quite happy with it.
It was a good bad and ugly special.

Ad sonofsam, regardless of the outcome of this you're just makiing yourself look like someone people should avoid dealing with.

Even your biggest supporter on that last thread iwantchixx wanted you to just STFU and settle things quietly and out of the view of the public.
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AaronM is in another thread owning Alien Q, which would explain why he is not in this thread.

I am going in to start making my pancake mix now
He aint owning shit...
He been getting owned all day.

Ya should goto the real parts of why it's all official.

AaronM made a new enemy today, I didnt ask for it.
But he got it now...

AaronM is a fucken poser.
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It was the same deal he had offered on a few occassions, Donovan Phillips bought it too and was quite happy with it.
It was a good bad and ugly special.

Ad sonofsam, regardless of the outcome of this you're just makiing yourself look like someone people should avoid dealing with.

Even your biggest supporter on that last thread iwantchixx wanted you to just STFU and settle things quietly and out of the view of the public.
he wanted me to stfu because he knew it would get me my content if i just apologized and said i was wrong, however my content is not worth me not having my WORD and OPINION.

thats why i say fuck the 3600 i gave him, i'll snap the content cds he gave me... oh and donovan was happy with the content? the same donovan that is a great friend of aarons and a fellow content producer? ahh i see
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the same donovan that is a great friend of aarons and a fellow content producer? ahh i see
The same Donovan that had to pay much more for the same content you did...dont' you remember we found out how much you spent because you violated that part of your agreement.
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Oh ok...so now we take peoples $ on technicalities huh?

Thats not what gfy's about.......
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Old 05-22-2005, 08:29 PM   #43
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The same Donovan that had to pay much more for the same content you did...dont' you remember we found out how much you spent because you violated that part of your agreement.
what agreement? there was NOTHING in writing... and since aaron started changing his story about what the agreement exactly was, why would i NOT disclose how much i paid for it if i felt i was being scammed?
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"When I received the content, not only was it 60k images instead of 65k images, but it was full of BBW / GOTH / HAIRY / NASTY girls, even a PREGNANT set, and his defence to that what ?this is good amateur content, this stuff converts, and if you can?t make this stuff convert you shouldn?t be doing adult?

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"When I received the content, not only was it 60k images instead of 65k images, but it was full of BBW / GOTH / HAIRY / NASTY girls, even a PREGNANT set, and his defence to that what ?this is good amateur content, this stuff converts, and if you can?t make this stuff convert you shouldn?t be doing adult?

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i forgot to throw in BALD content, lol
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Old 05-22-2005, 08:32 PM   #46
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He aint owning shit...
He been getting owned all day.

Ya should goto the real parts of why it's all official.

AaronM made a new enemy today, I didnt ask for it.
But he got it now...

AaronM is a fucken poser.
You must be in a different thread than the one I was reading. It happens.

edit - He's, ain't, You, go to, fucking
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Old 05-22-2005, 08:34 PM   #47
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Just for the record

AaronM is good people, & i'd have no problem doing business with him. In fact i plan on it in the near future.
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Showing someone cute girls as examples of the entire package & then giving them random other content is commonly referred to as a bait & switch.
Depends on whether or not the question was "does the package include cute girls" or "is the package ALL cute girls"... but it sounds like the term was more "girl next door" and that can be taken different ways. Some might expect just solo cute fresh looking girls.. others might take it as purely amateurs. Depends on their perspectives...

From my point of view it sounds like AaronM had a package deal he was selling and sos said he wanted to buy it.. but really what he wanted was very specific content.. just bad communications on both ends in my opinion.
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Depends on whether or not the question was "does the package include cute girls" or "is the package ALL cute girls"... but it sounds like the term was more "girl next door" and that can be taken different ways. Some might expect just solo cute fresh looking girls.. others might take it as purely amateurs. Depends on their perspectives...

From my point of view it sounds like AaronM had a package deal he was selling and sos said he wanted to buy it.. but really what he wanted was very specific content.. just bad communications on both ends in my opinion.
i was under the impression the girls were like the many samples he showed me.... wasn't just the term "girl next door" i described it to him, and he showed me a bunch of samples and told me this is what the content package consisted of, no mention of the MIXED content
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