Good point :thumbsup

no klikrevenue posts here?

Unfortunately you reach a level of success where it becomes impossible to continue building your enterprises without needing either business partners or staff. I've tried both and I like having partners much more than trying to do it all myself and managing staff myself which is my least favorite thing.

No doubt, you'll have a few shit partners through the years. We all have. But as you become more wise you learn to filter out the probable bad partners from the probable good ones much quicker.

Time is the one thing you can't buy for yourself. The work around is to get other people's time working to benefit your time. And you have to do this if you want to be really major wealthy one day.

Truest words I've seen on GFY in a long time! :thumbsup

I don't know that I would classify them as failures, but as far as "stumbles" quite a few times actually. All in all, however, they made for invaluable learning experiences. :2 cents:

I remember an article a while back that interviewed sucessful business men and women and the average number of failures before a sucess was around 10.

You're on the wrong end of the equation, he's looking for people to finance his projects not the other way around.

you learn so much from each failure that you're destined to make it at some point unless you're a complete idiot.

Unfortunately I tend to agree. I will avoid taking on business partners unless its absolutely necessary. Generally speaking, I'll rather hire or subcontract before partnering with other people. Too many bad experiences that partnerships are very high risk to me.

WG

I'm easily making the coveted six figures, but I did it the old fashion way... going to college, slowly working my way up through companies, with very little risk of failure - with "failure" being working hard for no returns in this sense (or even losing money). Of course, you reach a certain point where you have to put your ass on the line or you hit the ceiling of what you can make. That's where I'm at.

Atleast 3 times. I hope not to fall again cause everytime it happen it is harder to get back in shape.

I remember starting from scratch for about three times. Fresh out of college I switch job very often

You remind me exactly of the klikrevenue butt buddies, ignore for you!

wow, i love the response this thread has taken and once again i really appreciate everything everyone has to offer in their posts

If you want to make 100k a year in this biz you really need to get into cams btw. :upsidedow

Hard work, perseverance and SACRIFICE.


Pretty much the same as being a parent.

wow, this thread definetly goes under my motivation thread.

I'm at the point where I've got tons of ideas that I want to work on, but don't know which one I should work on first. I generally, come up with 2-3 new ideas every month and just dunno where to start.

Experienced is the best teacher so keep going never quit.

it has motivated me more than i even intended when i first started it. i always take the advice of those that have actually suceeded more to heart

Izzzzzzzzzzzzzz online is weird man. I lucked out in adult 100% and made money off the bat. I also tried most of the stuff preached about here religiously after I was already making money and I blew a wad of cash and gave myself heartburn. I don't see how people do some of the stuff that is standard here. TGP's, submitting, freesites, I cannot do it. I made a few bucks sure, but damn if I wanted to work my ass off I would have gotten a job. Just keep sticking your finger in pies and pretty soon you'll find the right one.

Here's an interesting Story... Have you ever heard of Cornal sanders?


Of course you have his the mastermind behind Kentuky Fried Chicken. How did one man change the eating habits of america?

Was it because he started out young, had a ton of capital, or a massive marketing backgroud?

None of those are true.

Cornal Sanders started KFC was he was 65 years old. HE got his first social insurce check and it was for $99. Bottom line he said im going to change this. He looked at his resources and he has one thing. A chicken resicpe alot of people liked. Nothing more nothing less.

So he went out hit the streets and told everyone he could about his chicken recipe.

He went into resarants and said " I have the best chicken recipe you have ever tasted and I dont want anything for it you can have it. All you have to do is pay me a percentage of the profits of every peice of chicken for the rest of the life"

What do you think this guy said? OH BOY OH BOY I have been waiting for a fat guy like you with a white beard to come along and and sell me his chicken recipe. No he said "Excuse me sir but you are crazy i have my own recipe and no way am i going to use yours" and was asked to leave.

So most people would have stopped thier. He went to the next place and said the same thing. And was told no again. So he went to the next place and the next.

Guess how many times he was told No before his first YES

1009 times before he got his first yes

How many of u after 500 no's would say Damn yo i better check my recipe? LOL


U must try until.

Don't count keep trying !

had a executive search business,then a plus size lingerie business.Adult was the hit :)

didn't read any of the responses. only once, but it was ugly. i was cruising along making great money (at least what i thought was great money) 96 - 98, then dropped the ball in late 98 - came back and made more than i ever could have dreamed.

true that bro, i like the finger in the pie saying there. i still have alot more work to do, what i need to do now is learn to judge if something is going to be successful or not over a period of time and i have to stop quitting early

i have 1003 more tyies to go before i give up!!!!!!!!

thanks bro

"Even a 1,000 mile journey starts with a single step"

Lao Tzu

i wish i knew more about your business model, theres so little i know:pimp but thats why i also respect your words about biz highly.

i need to keep pushing hard:thumbsup

Successful, hmm I wish I even could have spelled to that word without peeking at the thread title :1orglaugh

Failure is the stage for success

CHURCH STREET REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!

you gonna be in phx so we can oil each up?

:)

i can pretty much lay it out for you. when i started, i did avs in 96. it was so easy to spam the search engines back then, not even funny. i was making 100K a year on avs, doing fuck all. in 97 started a paysite, with basically the same idea as far as traffic went. actually did even better, until 98, when i tried to do a huge traffic deal with goto.com (now know as ovature). bombed miserably and i lost a ton of money. luckily i never fucked with my paysite. one day in early 99 i got linked by the hun to a gallery i had submitted elsewhere. it killed my server. but it was the seed in my brain of what could be. i hooked up huge amounts of servers, and went all out in the TGP gallery game, with (at the time) the highest quality video out there. people laughed, but i knew i was going to become a multi-millionaire in 99. hell, my gf laughed. but i knew it. we went HARDCORE with submitting... i had several people working in my office doing nothing but submissions 12 hours/day seven days/week, i don't think anyone has any idea of how much tgp exposure we really had, or how hard it was to actually get there. at the peak i was making well over 300K/month from my little paysite, for several years. now i am done, and make over 1K/day (only talking about adult of course) doing fuck all... rebills and se rule :glugglug

don't think i ever said that much before.

Maybe a 1:2 success-failure ratio.. I could afford maybe two mistakes before I could learn that new thing..

Wow, now thats very interesting because my foundation into this business was based on a very successful GoTo campaign back in December of 1999. From there I got much larger into the PPC game and continued to expand into SEO and been growing ever since. Odd how I would fail big time in TGP/MGP marketing but do well in SEO/PPC and you did just the opposite.
WG

i have much love for you bro:thumbsup thank you for your words, wow.

in a way you kept everything so simple, i believe i see where 1 of my biggest faults is already. eventhough i have consolidated most of my adult biz, i still amm too spread out. i need to focus on 1 task at a time and make it successful before i move onto the next.

i thought you made all of your money as a moose-hunter???

Can't actually say I did fail, but that is just down to doing a massive amount of research before ever going into a biz. Tis only me, but I like getting totally under the skin of any business before participating in it.

The other factor is no business *ever* remains the same, - it rises and falls with the seasons and ya just got to roll with the flow and adapt. Also, (excuse the cliche shit, but it's 100% relevant), business life is not a sprint, - it's a marathon.

I failed a lot of times and people begun to doubt my ability but I manage to be strong and focused.

I spent alot of time doing "moderately well" and a couple times falling in and out of this biz. I've been doing it since highschool though, didn't really settle into things until the last couple years.

even Walt Disney was turned down for "not being creative"