Outsourced PHP programmer experiences?

[s9ann0]

I firstly think of myself as a tech guy / programmer and I have always done my own programming but right now I have too much to do and want to do a database / php big site I was thinking of outsourcing.

The problem is whenever I have seen stuff outsourced people have done I thought it was done badly and I don't want to get this site done then have to redo it myself or patch up someone else code.

is this the experience other people have had with big outsourced projects or was stuff done well ?

[d00t]

only outsource the simple stuff

[iWeb_Allan]

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[fusionx]

It can work out ok - it depends on how well you manage the project.

Build in extra time - a lot of it. Not so much for billing, but for delivery. Managing an outsourced asset slows everything down.

Communication is key - make sure you get someone who will be available when you want them available. Make sure they will give you the reports you want, complete and on time.

Set expectations with the programmer early, and hold him to them, Don't let him slip for a moment.

When an outsourced project starts to fail halfway through, or later, it's a total nightmare. I had to learn Visual Basic and finish a major project myself because an outsourced programmer went AWOL two weeks before deadline. heh - the poor girl was on a college VISA and got deported back to India..

At least I learned a bit about Visual Basic

[sniperwolf]

Originally Posted by spanno

I firstly think of myself as a tech guy / programmer and I have always done my own programming but right now I have too much to do and want to do a database / php big site I was thinking of outsourcing.

The problem is whenever I have seen stuff outsourced people have done I thought it was done badly and I don't want to get this site done then have to redo it myself or patch up someone else code.

is this the experience other people have had with big outsourced projects or was stuff done well ?

Hi, Sir.

I am hoping you'll have the time to discuss this with me. I will assist you in all your concerns..

Kind Regards,
-M

[woj]

you get what you pay for... think about it, if there was nothing wrong with outsourced workers, why would they charge 1/10th the price for work that a programmer from the west would do it for. Common myth is that they charge so little because over there, that tiny amount is a lot of money. That's true, but if they provided same quality service as someone from the west, why wouldn't they charge similar prices?

[dbavaria]

Originally Posted by woj

you get what you pay for... think about it, if there was nothing wrong with outsourced workers, why would they charge 1/10th the price for work that a programmer from the west would do it for. Common myth is that they charge so little because over there, that tiny amount is a lot of money. That's true, but if they provided same quality service as someone from the west, why wouldn't they charge similar prices?

Exactly, if an outsourcing company claims to be just as good as a domestic one, why would they even bring up the fact they are outsourced, theres no rule that says you have to say where the work was done...

[Matt_WildCash]

If you do it, go with a good company like Iwebmasters, they are solid.

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by woj

you get what you pay for... think about it, if there was nothing wrong with outsourced workers, why would they charge 1/10th the price for work that a programmer from the west would do it for. Common myth is that they charge so little because over there, that tiny amount is a lot of money. That's true, but if they provided same quality service as someone from the west, why wouldn't they charge similar prices?

I had a script written for me, which I paid for about 1/10 of what I was quoted by the 2 or 3 Americans I asked, it works 100%, the job was done on time, I had NO problems whatsoever. The common myth is that if you pay 10 times more to an American you'll get a very good product which is TOTAL bullshit.

hope that helps

[iWeb_Allan]

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

If you do it, go with a good company like Iwebmasters, they are solid.

thanks Matt

[Egomancer]

Well, it depends who you hire and for what you hire. Furthermore, you need to give complete documentation for the prokject, because without documentation the project will fail.
This limits very much the aplicability of the outsource but for the big projects it worths...

Egomancer

[prime]

If youre planning to outsource a project, consider working with our company.
We have managers and supervisors who will take care of you.

and also, we don't charge recurring setup fees(every 6 months), no contracts, or surprises you with some hidden charges unlike others out here.