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#91

05-01-2002, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Squishy
Why would the webmaster of a Hun knock off site in Russia bother to pursue legal action at all? He's probably 15 years old, and no one but us would give a shit.

Just imagining if this guy would be given a jury of his peers he'd probably have Sasush as his Jury Foreman....LOL

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#92

05-01-2002, 02:16 PM

12Clicks for the prosecution.
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05-01-2002, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by eroswebmaster

Just imagining if this guy would be given a jury of his peers he'd probably have Sasush as his Jury Foreman....LOL

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#94

05-01-2002, 02:22 PM

This is illegal, as several people have pointed out in this thread

Naw. Several people have said that they think it might be, or ought to be, in their little corner of the world...or something like that.

The one link provided in this thread was to a United States statute criminalizing various unauthorized access to or damage to United States government computers. It would probably take a year of litigation to determine whether hotlinking an image on a US govt computer "damaged" it within the meaning of the statute -- but I doubt porn.ru is on a US govt. server so who cares?

Nothing so far posted in this thread has linked to any evidence or credible argument that hotlinking of public images on a russian server by a dutch person using a server in the United States is illegal. Y'all are within yer rights to say it ought to be, but stop saying it IS until you know what you are talking about.

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#95

05-01-2002, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by eroswebmaster

Dude quit arguing just to argue...LOL and actualy read what people post.

I did but Forkbeard has sort of covered it for me. It'd take a lot money paid to a lot of very expensive people to even come close to the answer of the legality. I'm not even gonna try. However I agree that it SHOULD be illegal. That still doesn't mean I wouldn't have done the same as the hun.

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#96

05-01-2002, 02:38 PM

It'd take a lot money paid to a lot of very expensive people to even come close to the answer of the legality.

Just so. I'd estimate the job as taking about a person-month of professional time that's gonna run you somewhere between $150 and $300 an hour for the quality of work needed to have any faith in the answer.

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#97

05-01-2002, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Lensman
Fuck with the Hun, get fucked. It's the law.

Amen

only guys who whine about it being illegial are fucking SCAMMERS themselves. They deserves what they get.

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#98

05-01-2002, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

Amen

only guys who whine about it being illegial are fucking SCAMMERS themselves. They deserves what they get.

EDIT: blah, not worth it. I forgot it was Sleazy, not a real person.

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#99

05-01-2002, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Backov

Really? Would you care to substantiate that? Are you calling me a scammer in a public forum? Unlike Russian 15 year olds, I CAN afford a US lawyer.

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See you in court then. Not like I'm hiding.

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#100

05-01-2002, 04:33 PM

so is it down already?
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#101

05-01-2002, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by DynaSpain
hello,

that site is still up and running...

The script declares a variable a and b defined as images.
for which the second image is the index.html from porno.ru
further in the page there will probably a function that loads these
variables but not displays.

By puting this in javascript all visitors will make these variables
load. That way the image source comes through the users and
not through huns server which makes is virtually impossible to
block the DoS attack since all requests come from different IP´s

That way it can´t be blocked in the router of firewall...

DynaMite

I'd classify it as a DDoS attack and I think the image can be protected from hot linking with .htaccess.

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#102

05-01-2002, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by dodo

I'd classify it as a DDoS attack and I think the image can be protected from hot linking with .htaccess.

If you read the full thread (got a spare hour) you'll see why it can't be. Still, there are other ways if the site being hit has any sense which probably they don't.

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#103

05-01-2002, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by DynaSpain
hello,

that site is still up and running...

The script declares a variable a and b defined as images.
for which the second image is the index.html from porno.ru
further in the page there will probably a function that loads these
variables but not displays.

By puting this in javascript all visitors will make these variables
load. That way the image source comes through the users and
not through huns server which makes is virtually impossible to
block the DoS attack since all requests come from different IP´s

That way it can´t be blocked in the router of firewall...

DynaMite

Just to clarify that point ;)

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#104

05-01-2002, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Tipsy

If you read the full thread (got a spare hour) you'll see why it can't be. Still, there are other ways if the site being hit has any sense which probably they don't.

yeah, i see what you mean. htaccess will not work.
i don't see how this can be blocked?! but wait... here's another idea:
the index.html can check the referrer and so block all request from thehun... no need to blocking packets since they are mostly unique and valid(no syn flooding) connections with port 80 and blocking port 80 would obviously take them offline.

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#105

05-01-2002, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by dodo

yeah, i see what you mean. htaccess will not work.
i don't see how this can be blocked?! but wait... here's another idea:
the index.html can check the referrer and so block all request from thehun... no need to blocking packets since they are mostly unique and valid(no syn flooding) connections with port 80 and blocking port 80 would obviously take them offline.

No matter what you do, that server is being killed. It's either pumping out a couple of million copies of that page, or it's processing so many requests and rejecting them, that it can't do anything else.

Either way, that server is screwed.

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