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Old 03-19-2006, 08:04 AM   #1
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V for Vendetta? More like C for Crap!

That movie was fucking HORRIBLE!!! What a vastly metaphoric terrorist sympathizing crap of a film! The political agenda is shoved into your face repeatedly throughout the movie and it's usually a bunch of mindless rhetoric. The 3 or 4 short action scenes were decent as best but the rest of the film was a huge steaming pile of shit.

If you haven't seen this movie then don't waste your money. I do find it ironic that the film takes place in futuristic England (after the U.S. self destructs) and is served a heaping dose of "liberty through terrorism" by a dude dressed up like a French martyr. What is this world coming to?!?!?

If I had 4 hands I would give it 4 thumbs down.
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Old 03-19-2006, 08:07 AM   #2
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i liked it

i saw it on imax and it was great.
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Old 03-19-2006, 08:11 AM   #4
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Any movie that makes a terrorist out to be the "good guy" is not a movie I care to watch.

In my opinion, it was nothing more than a multi-million dollar Al Qaeda recruitment film.
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Old 03-19-2006, 08:17 AM   #5
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Any movie that makes a terrorist out to be the "good guy" is not a movie I care to watch.

In my opinion, it was nothing more than a multi-million dollar Al Qaeda recruitment film.
its like hitler calling him a terrorist.
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just saw it with a bunch of ppl .. i want my two hours back lol
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Any movie that makes a terrorist out to be the "good guy" is not a movie I care to watch.

In my opinion, it was nothing more than a multi-million dollar Al Qaeda recruitment film.
Lemme guess? You're a big Bush supporter.
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Old 03-19-2006, 08:25 AM   #8
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Lemme guess? You're a big Bush supporter.
Nope, not at all. I'm just a supporter in making my own decisions and found it extremely ironic that the regime the "Frenchy Terrorist" was fighting against was doing EXACTLY what the movie was doing...force feeding political agendas and thought into the viewers.

The movie sucked regardless if I supported Bush, Kerry, Hillary, Sadaam, or Bin Laden.
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Old 03-19-2006, 08:32 AM   #9
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It was a great movie. Not in my top 10 all time but good nonetheless and the political message is one that has to be spread. Ppl need to do something about it. America needs a modern day Ghandi.
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V for Vendetta wasn't written to sympathize with Al Qaeda or whatever else your brainwashing has resulted in making you believe.

V for Vendetta was originally published between 1982 and 1985.

An extreme fascist single-party state has arisen, called Norsefire, that maintains control of the country through food shortages (arising during the nuclear winter), government-controlled media, secret police, a planned economy, and concentration camps for racial and sexual minorities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta

If the message angers you, great. It's because you're making the connections and don't like how you feel about it. Otherwise, there would be no way you'd make a connection between the government in the movie and our government today.
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Old 03-19-2006, 08:46 AM   #11
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If the message angers you, great. It's because you're making the connections and don't like how you feel about it. Otherwise, there would be no way you'd make a connection between the government in the movie and our government today.
You can't tell me that the screenwriters, producers and/or directors didn't have their own political agenda they were pushing. Brujah, you seem like an intelligent person that is able to read between the lines. I can't understand how anyone that has a standard IQ couldn't see what they were pushing.

Quote from the movie....

"Sometimes it takes something drastic to change things and change how people look at things. Blowing up one building can accomplish this and force things to change...."

That is not the exact quote verbatum but that is the jist of it.
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That movie was fucking HORRIBLE!!! What a vastly metaphoric terrorist sympathizing crap of a film! The political agenda is shoved into your face repeatedly throughout the movie and it's usually a bunch of mindless rhetoric. The 3 or 4 short action scenes were decent as best but the rest of the film was a huge steaming pile of shit.

If you haven't seen this movie then don't waste your money. I do find it ironic that the film takes place in futuristic England (after the U.S. self destructs) and is served a heaping dose of "liberty through terrorism" by a dude dressed up like a French martyr. What is this world coming to?!?!?

If I had 4 hands I would give it 4 thumbs down.
First it's not futuristic dumbass. It's an ALTERNATE future. Germany wins WWII in this story. Thus everything changes.

[quopte]In my opinion, it was nothing more than a multi-million dollar Al Qaeda recruitment film[/quote]

Even though the comic books were written over 20 years ago before there was an Al Queda.

I suppose Americas founding fathers were "terrorists" in your eyes too.
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Old 03-19-2006, 08:51 AM   #13
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i liked it

i saw it on imax and it was great.
Same here. It was a great movie, but the IMAX just blows your mind.
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Quote from the movie....

"Sometimes it takes something drastic to change things and change how people look at things. Blowing up one building can accomplish this and force things to change...."

That is not the exact quote verbatum but that is the jist of it.
Here's another quote from a terrorist.

"Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, ........"

--Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of Independence, 1776.
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First it's not futuristic dumbass. It's an ALTERNATE future. Germany wins WWII in this story. Thus everything changes.
I sure hope that you made this statement BEFORE seeing the movie! If Germany won WWII then why did they show footage of the U.S. in Iraq and go into descriptions on how the "War Happy" U.S. pretty much imploded. And in the movie it was the outbreak of disease and anarchy that helped the regime come into power...not the Germans winning WWII! That wasn't even fucking mentioned. Maybe in the 20 year old comic book but not in this movie. In this movie they spun the original storyline to fit their own agenda.

And it is futuristic, dumbass! Go watch the movie and get back to me on that one. Straight from the Official V for Vendetta website in the sysnopsis it reads..."Set against the futuristic landscape of totalitarian Britain, V For Vendetta tells the story..." - Now go buy a clue, dipshit!
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No Brujah, I have not.
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You can't tell me that the screenwriters, producers and/or directors didn't have their own political agenda they were pushing. Brujah, you seem like an intelligent person that is able to read between the lines. I can't understand how anyone that has a standard IQ couldn't see what they were pushing.

Quote from the movie....

"Sometimes it takes something drastic to change things and change how people look at things. Blowing up one building can accomplish this and force things to change...."

That is not the exact quote verbatum but that is the jist of it.
No shit, how many buildings do you think the US has blown up since Sept 11th? Or how about Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII? Just because the bomb isn't dropped from a plane suddenly makes it terrorism?
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You can't tell me that the screenwriters, producers and/or directors didn't have their own political agenda they were pushing. Brujah, you seem like an intelligent person that is able to read between the lines. I can't understand how anyone that has a standard IQ couldn't see what they were pushing.

Quote from the movie....

"Sometimes it takes something drastic to change things and change how people look at things. Blowing up one building can accomplish this and force things to change...."

That is not the exact quote verbatum but that is the jist of it.

Thats not a terroristic approach to things... its the simple truth.

Of course there are alternative methods, but, the blowing shit up method is what most people and governments usually opt for. Either it be a "terrorist" or even our own government (note that I quoted terrorist because that word is very vague. Defining a person as a terrorist all depends on your point of view)


Anyhow, I'd say, its not propaganda... but only an open minded look at things.
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Movie sucked I was really hyped because the W brothers did it. I guess they had thier day.
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Thats not a terroristic approach to things... its the simple truth.

Of course there are alternative methods, but, the blowing shit up method is what most people and governments usually opt for. Either it be a "terrorist" or even our own government (note that I quoted terrorist because that word is very vague. Defining a person as a terrorist all depends on your point of view)


Anyhow, I'd say, its not propaganda... but only an open minded look at things.
Great post! You disagreed, stated your opinion, and didn't toss one single insult. And you made a very good point.
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Any movie that makes a terrorist out to be the "good guy" is not a movie I care to watch.

In my opinion, it was nothing more than a multi-million dollar Al Qaeda recruitment film.
So I guess any and all movies that are about the American Revolution are off your list of must see movies?
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i want to ee the movie...and yes...the governement is supposed to rule for the people not rule the people

unfortunately too many people watch the godfather and think the italians are the mob....the real mob is the one in power..has been and only can be through out time..they are robiing the world blind and filling their coffers
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Great post! You disagreed, stated your opinion, and didn't toss one single insult. And you made a very good point.

Why would throw in insults? You have your opinion and I have mine... we both see things differently. Are you stupid cause you don't share the same vision? nope...

Its just part of life.

But thanks for the comment
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Any movie that makes a terrorist out to be the "good guy" is not a movie I care to watch.

In my opinion, it was nothing more than a multi-million dollar Al Qaeda recruitment film.

Jesus Christ you guys ... that'D be censorship. Try to view both point of views. That's what they tried to do. They don't glorify it... they just show it.

It was taken from an old book from the 80s dude... nothing to do with Al Qaeda
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This movie's gonna die on the vine after this weekend. Only movie fans that hate the UK are gonna watch it.
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it is interesting to read some of the comments here. I get a real feeling that many of you missed the point entirely. I would suspect that those who didn't get it at either MTV fans or republican voters. Either you short attention span or fear that thing might reflect badly on Bush are getting ya... paranoia deep destroya!

Seriously now...

Because of the current world situation, it is easy to take the point of view of "it puts terrorists into a positive light" or "Bin Ladin's own recruitment film" but the reality is that this is as far from the truth - unless you truly believe that the US is as oppressive as the regime that is portrayed in the film. No matter the circumstance, I don't think that any true lover of freedom would want to see things end up in the situaiton that this movie portrays. Would you really give up all of your freedoms just to be "safe"? I am sure that this circumstance would generate some people fighting against the system.

Today we call them "terrorists", in the past they were called "revolutionaries" or "members of the boston tea party" or whatever. Terrorist is a hot button word that has been filtered and controlled through the media that when you hear it, you think of the twin towers, Bin Ladin, and all things bad. As a result, when you see V in this movie and they call him a terrorist, you get that bad image.

The reality is that like many of the revolutionaries that brought the US into being, V is fighting against a system so completely corrupt that the only way to overcome it is to destroy it. You may not like his methods, you may not like the idea of death and destruction, but LOOK AT YOUR OWN HISTORY... the US exists because of these exact type of acts.

Terrorism isn't the movies central theme, far from it. The main themes are fear, intimidation, and that people sadly are sheep and will eat whatever comes up on their television as the truth. Even V uses fear and intimidation to get the point made, and there is a moment where even V's biggest fans will truly hate the man for what he has done.

If you only watch this movie and absorb only the surface, I think you will find yourself not at all comfortable with the ending and the end results. If you dig a little deeper, you will find the human spirit and the desire to be free right there under your nose.

Turn off MTV. Stop worrying about the boy president, and take the time to truly understand and enjoy a well written, well executed movie with a much more subtle message than many people will get.

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I dont go to a movie to get a "message" I go to a movie for the entertainment value and Vendetta doesnt live up to that bill. Maybe it has some meaning to some wanna-be Che Guevara revolutionaries out there but it is not well executed nor well written, its full of "meaning" for some of you Im sure but I wanted something ENTERTAINING.
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Any movie that makes a terrorist out to be the "good guy" is not a movie I care to watch.

In my opinion, it was nothing more than a multi-million dollar Al Qaeda recruitment film.
You have a problem with reading... You look, but you don't read.
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I dont go to a movie to get a "message" I go to a movie for the entertainment value and Vendetta doesnt live up to that bill. Maybe it has some meaning to some wanna-be Che Guevara revolutionaries out there but it is not well executed nor well written, its full of "meaning" for some of you Im sure but I wanted something ENTERTAINING.
Might I suggest then that you stick to Adam Sandler and Rob Schneider movies? Some of us are entertained by actually USING our brains rather than switching them off for a cheap laugh and visual valium to make our pathetic lives pass a little more quickly.

You probably saw yourself in that movie - any one of the dummies watching TV and not thinking about what it said.

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You can't tell me that the screenwriters, producers and/or directors didn't have their own political agenda they were pushing. Brujah, you seem like an intelligent person that is able to read between the lines. I can't understand how anyone that has a standard IQ couldn't see what they were pushing.

Quote from the movie....

"Sometimes it takes something drastic to change things and change how people look at things. Blowing up one building can accomplish this and force things to change...."

That is not the exact quote verbatum but that is the jist of it.
The story is an adaption from a comic book written in the 80's.. Back when Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher ran the world. So your claim that the powers that be in Hollywood made the movie to mirror todays headlines is completely crap. The quotes you are all quoting is from the comic book and not from a screne writers mind.

Saying so would be like saying an adaption of Roger Waters Radio KOAS and its nuclear fear are playing on todays headlines about North Korea and Iran.
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the first allusion i saw to al qaeda in connection with this movie was last night on MTV, after i saw the film. after that "connection" was made several times by the morons on the MTV show, i turned it off. it was a waste of my time.
and now i see the same simplistic bullshit here.

if you can't tell the difference between the current day US (or more accurately, the 1980s Britain of Margaret Thatcher) - and the facist, totalitarian British society created in the movie (and in the book written decades ago) - then just go back to your "would you hit it" threads.

and btw...if you really have a need to find an evil current day society that's somewhat analogous to the totalitarian British regime in the movie, I'd try looking at the Muslim side of the world rather than the US.

geez.
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Old 03-19-2006, 02:24 PM   #45
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The best movies are the ones where everyone's arguing about them.

I think I'll give this one a look-see.
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the first allusion i saw to al qaeda in connection with this movie was last night on MTV, after i saw the film. after that "connection" was made several times by the morons on the MTV show, i turned it off. it was a waste of my time.
and now i see the same simplistic bullshit here.

if you can't tell the difference between the current day US (or more accurately, the 1980s Britain of Margaret Thatcher) - and the facist, totalitarian British society created in the movie (and in the book written decades ago) - then just go back to your "would you hit it" threads.

and btw...if you really have a need to find an evil current day society that's somewhat analogous to the totalitarian British regime in the movie, I'd try looking at the Muslim side of the world rather than the US.

geez.
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Old 03-19-2006, 02:33 PM   #47
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Look, I was there in NY around DC Comics when the book 'V for Vendetta' was being published. I got a copy right off the press. Quite a buzz about Alan Moore's newest work then.

Although Moore and the then 'British Wave' of writers were dominating the market. It was like 'if they're British then they're good writers' bullshit. Moore stands out but not always what's hot in Britain is what's hot here in the U.S. Moore and Gaiman are the rare exceptions. Moore has integrity but lacks the drive to be on the sets to make sure things go right so his movies end up being what he doesn't enjoy hence his separation from the project.

The book was too much for me. I like a good read but heavy drama, melodrama in a comic book doesn't sit for me. I can't stand sitting there for hours just reading about people having deep conversations. Talking heads do not a comic book make.

It's a great venue for telling a story but it wasn't my cup of tea although I do find Moore's work outstanding.

So what's wrong with the movie is that it doesn't follow Moore's vision and astute viewers can tell there's something missing.

We'll what Moore and his fans have to say after the long run as well as the box office receipts.
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Old 03-19-2006, 02:50 PM   #48
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were there any boobs or sex in the movie/?
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Juicy, not a single fleshlight anywhere to be seen... one kiss, a few suggestions of homosexuality and BDSM sort of stuff, but other than that, no. Refreshing, actually. Sex is an issue, but not in the tits flying all over the screen sort of a way.

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I haven't seen it yet and I think I still want to give this movie a try.
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