What does a typical solo girl site bring in? - GoFuckYourself.com

Ordo · 03-19-2006, 12:36 AM

Yeah, so I'm launching a series of solo girl sites as most of you now know. 5 sites total to get things rolling and then I'll begin with some fun contests and programs etc.

I'm curious what some of the typical solo girl sites bring in annually. I'm more or less trying to get an idea of whats at least realistic and help me set a goal for each girl.

Make sense?

Any tips, advice, info etc would be most appreciated.

Hopefully this thread won't drop like a rock with 100 views and no serious responses because I'm really reaching for advice if you have it to spare.

Thanks!

dissipate · 03-19-2006, 12:49 AM

I'm going to be completly honest with you; it relies on too many factors to say that "solo girl site xxx should bring in $xxx". There are a lot of things to consider here.

What kind of content is available for affiliates to promote - and how often is it updated?

What kind of member interaction will the girl have? Weekly cam shows? Updated personal diary on the site?

What kind of marketing and promotions are you putting out for these girls? What type of affiliate support and promotional material do you have to put out?

There are way too many factors to put into place to say there is any typical return on a sologirl site, its part art, part science.

SleazyDream · 03-19-2006, 12:51 AM

just buy a membership to a lighspeed site and go wack off

dissipate · 03-19-2006, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

just buy a membership to a lighspeed site and go wack off

Shhh, stop letting our super secret ninja marketing techniques out.

Niko Bimini · 03-19-2006, 12:56 AM

Take the worst case scenario figure in you head. You know the one, the one you say "well we will at least do this..............."

Ok ya got that figure in your head?

Now devide that in half.

That is what 95% of all solo girl sites do.

If you can live with that. Than go for it.

Of course thats just my

Paul Markham · 03-19-2006, 01:05 AM

The most important thing is not what dissipate tells you, sorry but read on.

It's what the surfer thinks of the sites.

Is this just another solo girl site with average content of an average girl doing average stuff? If that's what it is then look at conversion in the 1:2000 and over and crap retention. The main reason why so many sites fail or struggle is they offer nothing different then the other 10,000 other sites on the Internet.

If the girl is a Tawnee Stone and you understand the niche like LS does, even though it was his first attempt, you will convert and retain well, even in todays market. But don't for one minute assume because he can do it, and a few others, the secret is "Single Girl" sites. It's not and never has been, it's the porn.

I forgot, your sites are going to be exclusive and the only place on the Internet the guy can find this girl.

Exclusive in that it's just another girl on a sofa and the fact that this is just one girl will immediately wipe of 95% of the surfers who do not even like her. And do not assume I maen you will conver 1:20

Find a great girl, shoot great content and you will convert 1:500 and the affiliates will stay. You still need them though and all the freebies will not make them push a bad site for ever.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 03-19-2006, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

just buy a membership to a lighspeed site and go wack off

dissipate · 03-19-2006, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Is this just another solo girl site with average content of an average girl doing average stuff? If that's what it is then look at conversion in the 1:2000 and over and crap retention. The main reason why so many sites fail or struggle is they offer nothing different then the other 10,000 other sites on the Internet.

I thought this went without saying, but I appreciate the constructive critisism

Ordo · 03-19-2006, 02:04 AM

No worst case best case?
I had been making $2,000 a month with my TightFetish site with very little marketing and promo. I haven't had time to touch it in 6 months so that has been cut in half.

I'm more or less counting on $2k a month from each site once they are all done and I'm promoting them all heavily and actually spending a little money, unlike what I did with the jeans site. I never spent a dime on promo.

If anyone is willing to step up and give me even a fair average in numbers that would be most helpful.

I know there are variables to the equation. That goes without saying.

Shoehorn! · 03-19-2006, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ordo

No worst case best case?
I had been making $2,000 a month with my TightFetish site with very little marketing and promo. I haven't had time to touch it in 6 months so that has been cut in half.

I'm more or less counting on $2k a month from each site once they are all done and I'm promoting them all heavily and actually spending a little money, unlike what I did with the jeans site. I never spent a dime on promo.

If anyone is willing to step up and give me even a fair average in numbers that would be most helpful.

I know there are variables to the equation. That goes without saying.

Well, like people have been saying, there really is no way for anyone here to tell unless you post pictures, the tour, what the girls will be doing, their age, etc. Some sites shut down before too long because they aren't doing well, then you have a site like Raven Riley who does over $1,000,000 in like 9 months.

VanessaG · 03-19-2006, 02:12 AM

From the begining of this year:

Ordo · 03-19-2006, 02:14 AM

Well, rate the sites in my sig.

CuteKatina.com seems to be my most promising girl right now.

BlueDesignStudios · 03-19-2006, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ordo

Well, rate the sites in my sig.

CuteKatina.com seems to be my most promising girl right now.

she's hot, I agree she has lots of potential

Paul Markham · 03-19-2006, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dissipate

I thought this went without saying, but I appreciate the constructive criticism

Unfortunately a lot do not see it that way. They think it's the niche that works so put up a site or drive traffic to it. Then find 3 months later it did not work.

Look at some of the prices being offered to shoot the content for solo girl sites. Prices that mean you have to work day after day, work the shooter and the model into the ground, limit locations and in the end just scrape by.

Someone who sometimes comes here and posts will shoot 100 sets and 8 hours of video for $20K. Work it out, 100 sets, will take 10 days minimum, 8 hours of video at 20 minutes a scene 24 scenes another 3 days work. And this is pushing it with the girl on auto pilot and bored.

Working the model this long and this hard will get crap back. How much personality goes into that content?

But he tells us he shoots it all the time. About as exclusive as a can of beans. This is the only can with these beans in.

dissipate · 03-19-2006, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Unfortunately a lot do not see it that way. They think it's the niche that works so put up a site or drive traffic to it. Then find 3 months later it did not work.

Look at some of the prices being offered to shoot the content for solo girl sites. Prices that mean you have to work day after day, work the shooter and the model into the ground, limit locations and in the end just scrape by.

Someone who sometimes comes here and posts will shoot 100 sets and 8 hours of video for $20K. Work it out, 100 sets, will take 10 days minimum, 8 hours of video at 20 minutes a scene 24 scenes another 3 days work. And this is pushing it with the girl on auto pilot and bored.

Working the model this long and this hard will get crap back. How much personality goes into that content?

But he tells us he shoots it all the time. About as exclusive as a can of beans. This is the only can with these beans in.

A lot of good points here. You're so right in saying that you just can't shoot a model and a photographer into the ground and expect to get great results. Sites like theses need somthing extra to set them apart from the brooding pack, and a bored model isn't going to be helping you.

lokiproductions · 03-19-2006, 04:10 AM

Some great points here, thanks to those with the experience who contributed.

HotChocolate · 03-19-2006, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by VanessaG

From the begining of this year:

Not too bad!

Violetta · 03-19-2006, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ordo

Well, rate the sites in my sig.

CuteKatina.com seems to be my most promising girl right now.

I think she will do good!!

a1ka1ine · 03-19-2006, 07:45 AM

some solo sites lose money, they dont make it, and others make $xxx,xxx.xx a month. your question is too vague!

show pics at least!

bigdog · 03-19-2006, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Well, like people have been saying, there really is no way for anyone here to tell unless you post pictures, the tour, what the girls will be doing, their age, etc. Some sites shut down before too long because they aren't doing well, then you have a site like Raven Riley who does over $1,000,000 in like 9 months.

That was the total gross i think. You got to split it and give the affilates their share

Mutt · 03-19-2006, 08:20 AM

average solo girl site does 3-5 sales a day and a rebill or two - god knows why people think there's so much gold in the hills. great girls will do better than 3-5 sales a day - it's a fan niche, webmasters and surfers - webmasters promote girls they like and believe in - it's why i want girls to be fully interactive on their sites, which is easier said than done - retention wise it helps, not as much as people think but webmasters get behind sites more that have a girl who is involved.

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Ordo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,186	What does a typical solo girl site bring in? Yeah, so I'm launching a series of solo girl sites as most of you now know. 5 sites total to get things rolling and then I'll begin with some fun contests and programs etc. I'm curious what some of the typical solo girl sites bring in annually. I'm more or less trying to get an idea of whats at least realistic and help me set a goal for each girl. Make sense? Any tips, advice, info etc would be most appreciated. Hopefully this thread won't drop like a rock with 100 views and no serious responses because I'm really reaching for advice if you have it to spare. Thanks! __________________ Savor Premium Affiliate Area Here

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Ordo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,186	No worst case best case? I had been making $2,000 a month with my TightFetish site with very little marketing and promo. I haven't had time to touch it in 6 months so that has been cut in half. I'm more or less counting on $2k a month from each site once they are all done and I'm promoting them all heavily and actually spending a little money, unlike what I did with the jeans site. I never spent a dime on promo. If anyone is willing to step up and give me even a fair average in numbers that would be most helpful. I know there are variables to the equation. That goes without saying. __________________ Savor Premium Affiliate Area Here

03-19-2006, 12:49 AM	#2
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	I'm going to be completly honest with you; it relies on too many factors to say that "solo girl site xxx should bring in $xxx". There are a lot of things to consider here. What kind of content is available for affiliates to promote - and how often is it updated? What kind of member interaction will the girl have? Weekly cam shows? Updated personal diary on the site? What kind of marketing and promotions are you putting out for these girls? What type of affiliate support and promotional material do you have to put out? There are way too many factors to put into place to say there is any typical return on a sologirl site, its part art, part science.

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Ordo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,186	Well, rate the sites in my sig. CuteKatina.com seems to be my most promising girl right now. __________________ Savor Premium Affiliate Area Here

03-19-2006, 04:10 AM	#16
lokiproductions Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 118	Some great points here, thanks to those with the experience who contributed.

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a1ka1ine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,387	some solo sites lose money, they dont make it, and others make $xxx,xxx.xx a month. your question is too vague! show pics at least!

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	average solo girl site does 3-5 sales a day and a rebill or two - god knows why people think there's so much gold in the hills. great girls will do better than 3-5 sales a day - it's a fan niche, webmasters and surfers - webmasters promote girls they like and believe in - it's why i want girls to be fully interactive on their sites, which is easier said than done - retention wise it helps, not as much as people think but webmasters get behind sites more that have a girl who is involved. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!