Idea for my PC Repair company, need opinions...

[A C]

I have a small local PC Repair company, Im thinking about having techs drive around and look for unsecure wifi spots. Once they find one they knock on the door and give them the speech:

"Hey My names Blah From Blahblah, we are offering our services for free for resedences' that have unsecure wireless networks. The dangers of leaving your network unsecure are blahblah."

They get in and lock up the wireless for them, and in the mean time chances are the people have hellish spyware problems, 80% of people we service do, and they say

"hey this is running pretty slow for a fairly new dell. Would you like to scheduale an apointment some time next week to have one of us come out and clean this up for you?"

I need to look into the legalities of all this and the liability the techs would have by working on the pc to lock up the wireless. But I think we would be offering a valuable service for free, and we should make a good ROI. If nothing else its great advertisement. Could get news paper to write about the company saying how we've locked up 500 unsecure networks in the area etc.

Please discuss pros and cons...

AC

[Jace]

some people like to leave their network free for all to use

http://www.nodedb.com/

[Ice]

I have a huge penis

[Jace]

it could be a good idea though, but also people (like me) might get a little freaked and slam the door....a cold call on the doorstep is kind of creepy, like jehovas witness of techies and shit

[Marcus Aurelius]

CON:

You have to think about the trust factor. If a strange guy knocked on my door there is no way I would let him in to "have a look" at my computer. Even in a company vehicle, with a uniform on, people are VERY cautious of strangers these days and rightfully so, that could work against your efforts in the longrun.


PRO:

Lonely housewife home alone.

[Relish XXX]

I think alot of people wont believe you and will just think you are hustling.

Best way to promote it would be via an advertourial (<- did I spell that right?) in a local newspaper.

[Sosa]

the fuck if I would let someone to check on my computer. Unless your company is known in your community most people will not trust you.

[tungsten]

Originally Posted by mdcq

CON:

You have to think about the trust factor. If a strange guy knocked on my door there is no way I would let him in to "have a look" at my computer. Even in a company vehicle, with a uniform on, people are VERY cautious of strangers these days and rightfully so, that could work against your efforts in the longrun.


PRO:

Lonely housewife home alone.

i agree..

[munki]

Yeah... that pitch will prolly freak a lot of people out...

[thaifan99]

You might get savaged by dogs and have buckets of pee chucked ta ya...............cold phone calling would be safer lol

[munki]

Side note, i have been thinking of doing something similar in the OC area, kind of GeekSquad style, slightly modified... hit me up... lets talk...

[Shoehorn!]

I dunno, I think that most people aren't computer savvy enough to not allow someone to look at their computer if they tell them it could run faster. I mean, look at what some people download to help them keep track of the weather and play streaming media, all the while these programs are watching what they do. It sounds like a good idea to me, give it a try.

[Spunky]

I think that is a good idea but kinda like a roofer coming around and saying your roof is about to fly off..That is soliciting.I would send out a bunch of flyers introducing your service and talk about your benefits..I know a few companies just going nuts with the similar style of business

[born]

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

some people like to leave their network free for all to use

hehhe.... That is why I leave my Wireless network open. I watch my neighbors using it all the time (Sniff, Sniff, heheh). Good for them...

I have a PIX515 firewall protecting my PCs behind the "public" WIFI network

LOL

[jukeboxfrank]

Originally Posted by born

hehhe.... That is why I leave my Wireless network open. I watch my neighbors using it all the time (Sniff, Sniff, heheh). Good for them...

I have a PIX515 firewall protecting my PCs behind the "public" WIFI network

LOL

Ya but if they search for CP your IP is the one the feds will come to.

[A C]

For you that think no one will let us in, you have to remember these arent webmasters, this is your 2nd cousin that has 1,324 viruses and 2,432 peices of spyware running on thier dell deminsion, that hooked up the linksys router with factory settings and dont have a clue about shit . These people are a lot more receptive then you would think when you start telling them how thier security is at risk. Walking up to someones door with a laptop thats online in your hand and saying "this is your internet that you pay for, that others are accessing for free" will turn a lot of heads and open a lot of doors

AC

[azguy]

Originally Posted by A C

I have a small local PC Repair company, Im thinking about having techs drive around and look for unsecure wifi spots. Once they find one they knock on the door and give them the speech:

"Hey My names Blah From Blahblah, we are offering our services for free for resedences' that have unsecure wireless networks. The dangers of leaving your network unsecure are blahblah."

They get in and lock up the wireless for them, and in the mean time chances are the people have hellish spyware problems, 80% of people we service do, and they say

"hey this is running pretty slow for a fairly new dell. Would you like to scheduale an apointment some time next week to have one of us come out and clean this up for you?"

I need to look into the legalities of all this and the liability the techs would have by working on the pc to lock up the wireless. But I think we would be offering a valuable service for free, and we should make a good ROI. If nothing else its great advertisement. Could get news paper to write about the company saying how we've locked up 500 unsecure networks in the area etc.

Please discuss pros and cons...

AC

That's actually a damn good idea for some quick buck. Why don't you give it a shot and see the response? I'd start with offices that have open networks, as I think home users would be less likely to let you in and "fix" something they never knew was broken.

[azguy]

Originally Posted by A C

For you that think no one will let us in, you have to remember these arent webmasters, this is your 2nd cousin that has 1,324 viruses and 2,432 peices of spyware running on thier dell deminsion, that hooked up the linksys router with factory settings and dont have a clue about shit . These people are a lot more receptive then you would think when you start telling them how thier security is at risk. Walking up to someones door with a laptop thats online in your hand and saying "this is your internet that you pay for, that others are accessing for free" will turn a lot of heads and open a lot of doors

AC

Once you're "in" you can also upsell tons of shit (virus removal service, etc.) and get future clients for other computer repair issues.

EDIT: just saw that you mentioned this possibility in your original post

[A C]

Originally Posted by azguy

Once you're "in" you can also upsell tons of shit (virus removal service, etc.) and get future clients for other computer repair issues.

thats exactly the idea, get in, fix inet, then say "whoa this pc is running waaaaay slower then it should. How about we have someone come out next week to have this puppy running good as the day you bought it?"

AC

[brand0n]

over 30 open wifis with in golf carts reach from my house right now.

law of numbers says that a % of that 30 is going to let you in.

do it as a free service to get your name out.

[Spunky]

You would be surprised how many people do not have a clue what spyware actually does to their box.Usually older people who aren't up on the shit.They are willing to pay 120 bucks + to do a reformat and add a couple free spyware removal programs.It is quite a lucrative venture.Making it mobile is a plus

[detoxed]

Originally Posted by mdcq

CON:

You have to think about the trust factor. If a strange guy knocked on my door there is no way I would let him in to "have a look" at my computer. Even in a company vehicle, with a uniform on, people are VERY cautious of strangers these days and rightfully so, that could work against your efforts in the longrun.


PRO:

Lonely housewife home alone.

The best way would be to put flyers in the houses around an open network. Chances are, you wont be able to tell exactly which person has the network open unless houses are far apart.

[azguy]

Read how Mark Cuban started his PC business back in the day:

http://www.changethis.com/5.SuccessMotivation

[Shoehorn!]

Originally Posted by A C

Walking up to someones door with a laptop thats online in your hand and saying "this is your internet that you pay for, that others are accessing for free" will turn a lot of heads and open a lot of doors

AC

Definately a good idea.

[azguy]

Get a hot blonde wearing a tight Hooters-style shirt with your logo on it do this kind of work. Trustworthy and HOT. Guys would pay her $200 for a 30-minute fomat.

[A C]

Originally Posted by detoxed

The best way would be to put flyers in the houses around an open network. Chances are, you wont be able to tell exactly which person has the network open unless houses are far apart.

VERY good point, only prob with the flyer, im scared if we said "you or someone near you has an unsecure wireless connection" if this is you contact us blahblah

1 of 2 things could happen, 1. Someone could be like shit, im bout to steal that morons inet, 2. They will fix the problem themselves.

Better just to hit the 3 or 4 possible houses

AC

[azguy]

Originally Posted by A C

For you that think no one will let us in, you have to remember these arent webmasters, this is your 2nd cousin that has 1,324 viruses and 2,432 peices of spyware running on thier dell deminsion, that hooked up the linksys router with factory settings and dont have a clue about shit . These people are a lot more receptive then you would think when you start telling them how thier security is at risk. Walking up to someones door with a laptop thats online in your hand and saying "this is your internet that you pay for, that others are accessing for free" will turn a lot of heads and open a lot of doors

AC

If the person with the open network says no, try to sell this intel to one of the neighbours ("this is the internet the guy upstairs pays for.. you can use it and get rid of your $35 DSL")

[A C]

Originally Posted by azguy

Get a hot blonde wearing a tight Hooters-style shirt with your logo on it do this kind of work. Trustworthy and HOT. Guys would pay her $200 for a 30-minute fomat.

What if a girl ansers the door ;)

AC

[brand0n]

Originally Posted by azguy

Get a hot blonde wearing a tight Hooters-style shirt with your logo on it do this kind of work. Trustworthy and HOT. Guys would pay her $200 for a 30-minute fomat.

think housewifes. how many dads are home alone?

[A C]

Originally Posted by brand0n

think housewifes. how many dads are home alone?

I only know one ;)

AC

[azguy]

Originally Posted by A C

VERY good point, only prob with the flyer, im scared if we said "you or someone near you has an unsecure wireless connection" if this is you contact us blahblah

1 of 2 things could happen, 1. Someone could be like shit, im bout to steal that morons inet, 2. They will fix the problem themselves.

Better just to hit the 3 or 4 possible houses

AC

You usually know the type of router that they use.. so you can say "Do you happen to have a Linksys xxx wireless router around?" This will help to filter out those with the secure network

[A C]

Originally Posted by azguy

You usually know the type of router that they use.. so you can say "Do you happen to have a Linksys xxx wireless router around?" This will help to filter out those with the secure network

True true

AC

[A C]

any one have some links to known wifi issues with security, like horror stories that I could repeat to these people? To make them def want to lock up

AC

[azguy]

Originally Posted by brand0n

think housewifes. how many dads are home alone?

The housewife probably has no clue a wireless router even exists around the house And if she does - I'd think she would be more likely to trust a cute blonde than a guy who came out of nowhere claiming to be fixing the internet.

[brand0n]

its not a problem pinpointing where the hotspot is at all. this door right here is the owner.

even in apt complexs, you might have to knock 2 doors

[azguy]

Originally Posted by A C

any one have some links to known wifi issues with security, like horror stories that I could repeat to these people? To make them def want to lock up

AC

You should know that it's legal to FIND the open wireless networks, but illegal to make use of them.

[azguy]

Get one of these: http://www.wifiseeker.com/ This way you need to open the laptop only when you find one.. much easier.

[EviLGuY]

I'd just leave a note in their mailbox and let them call me if they wanted me to secure their wireless.

[A C]

Originally Posted by azguy

Get one of these: http://www.wifiseeker.com/ This way you need to open the laptop only when you find one.. much easier.

already got some on order thanks

AC

[A C]

Originally Posted by EviLGuY

I'd just leave a note in their mailbox and let them call me if they wanted me to secure their wireless.

would take them minimal effort to figure out how to lock it, wed lose 90% of customers that way ;\

AC

[teksonline]

would take them minimal effort to figure out how to lock it, wed lose 90% of customers that way ;\

you underestimate the intelligence of the common computer user

[A C]

Originally Posted by teksonline

would take them minimal effort to figure out how to lock it, wed lose 90% of customers that way ;\

you underestimate the intelligence of the common computer user

you mean overestimate ;)

this is gonna be sweet gonna have our little gay ass Scion Xbs with a laptop and this fuckin thing pointed to the right at houses running a wifi finder program that will beep when it finds shit



AC

[brand0n]

lol hi we are here to point a cannon at your house

[FilthyRob]

I can find some wifi signals, but never tried to access anything with them.

[A C]

Originally Posted by brand0n

lol hi we are here to point a cannon at your house

that thing is just a 40$ pringals can. If i didnt want it to look like a pos Id just make one myself, plans are all over for it on the inet.

AC

[chadglni]

It would work, no use asking some of the nuts here.

[taibo]

smoke weed it'll help you think better

[A C]

Originally Posted by taibo

smoke weed it'll help you think better

never tried it

AC

[en1]

Originally Posted by mdcq

CON:

You have to think about the trust factor. If a strange guy knocked on my door there is no way I would let him in to "have a look" at my computer. Even in a company vehicle, with a uniform on, people are VERY cautious of strangers these days and rightfully so, that could work against your efforts in the longrun.


PRO:

Lonely housewife home alone.

agreed

[A C]

Originally Posted by en1

agreed

once again you are a webmaster ;\ personally if some plummer came to my house and said shit was flying out of the back of my house due to some pipe backups, id sure as hell let him in to fix the problem ESPECIALLY if he was doing it for free.

Or maybe bug dude shows up "Hey there AC , you have a trail of big ass ants colonating in your backyard, probebly going to get in your house soon, would you like me to come in and set up stuff to kill them for free" again hell yes

Think about it in a manor or profesion you are not familiar with.

AC