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Old 03-15-2006, 03:02 PM   #1
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Would You Go Back To IBILL?

So many of us don't even want to hear the name IBILL. But I am curious
to know how may of you would give IBILL another chance if things were
different. If the debt was paid, how many of you would at least use them
as a secondary?
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:03 PM   #2
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Never again.

They still owe me $$$.
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:14 PM   #3
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I do understand that it is NOT IBill who screwed people but the guys who were running it...

My main question is WHY the guys who bought the company kept the same name... They bought the technology, so they would have been able to restart it under another name... There was NOTHING posistive by keeping the name I-BIll, een the branding wasN,t good because all the drama....
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:20 PM   #4
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The company was purchased, including the technology.
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:24 PM   #5
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I do understand that it is NOT IBill who screwed people but the guys who were running it...

My main question is WHY the guys who bought the company kept the same name... They bought the technology, so they would have been able to restart it under another name... There was NOTHING posistive by keeping the name I-BIll, een the branding wasN,t good because all the drama....
IT'S THE SAME OWNERS!
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:26 PM   #6
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Maybe, but only if they would keep my money in a third-party escrow account.
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:51 PM   #7
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I would go back to Ibill if they paid everybody what is owed to them and showed a consistent path to success. The brand name must still be worth a lot.

I would NOT go back to Beardsley and co at Segpay who engineered this mistake then formed their own company and stole Ibills customers making Ibill unable to pay their bills. That is the lowest of the low. Even lower.
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:55 PM   #8
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Just no.
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:56 PM   #9
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No way. They still owe me so much money, it's sick.
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:58 PM   #10
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I am surprised the following answer hasn't been posted yet, so I will..

FUCK NO!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-16-2006, 06:41 AM   #11
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If IBILL wants webmasters to come back, here is what they must do...

1) PAY EVERYONE EVERYTHING OWED, INCLUDING MONEY OWED FROM 2004, AND ALL LATE RESERVES.

2) PAY ALL CURRENT PAYOUTS ON TIME, NOT 2 DAYS LATE, OR 3 DAYS LATE

2) GIVE ACCURATE ANSWERS TO CLIENTS (THAT MEANS PUTTING SOMEONE ELSE ON CHARGE BESIDES THAT LAME ASS SECRETARY THAT ANSWERS ALL MY CALLS WITH "I DON'T KNOW, I CANT SAY")

3) FIX THE FUCKING CMI PAGE SO WE DON'T GET LOGGED OFF EVERY 10 SECONDS

If IBILL does all the above, and if I don't see any negative remarks about them for 6 months, I will give them all my business again. But untill then, FUCK YOU IBILL, MAY YOU BURN IN HELL!!!!
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Old 03-16-2006, 07:49 AM   #12
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lol no fucking way
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:04 AM   #13
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I would NOT go back to Beardsley and co at Segpay who engineered this mistake then formed their own company and stole Ibills customers making Ibill unable to pay their bills. That is the lowest of the low. Even lower.
He we go again another moron (maybe someone with an agenda hiding under this nic) spouting off about something they are clueless about.

Please try and have just the smallest clue about what you are talking about before you come on and spew bullshit. The people who engineered the mistake at iBill are still at iBill. In fact, you are probably one of them. So take some advice and go fuck yourself
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Old 03-16-2006, 09:20 AM   #14
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MacDaddyPlaya!!

Hey MacDaddy! Thanks for your input, however that moron comment? you can stick up your ass! I'm not hiding any agenda I simply asked because I know IBill has new owners and are giving me really great rates. But I figured I would post because even though I know my fair share of internet blunders etc. like for example MacDaddy...you probably know a few ex-Ibill employees dont you? they just hide under different corporation names isn't that so MacDaddy? So before you decide to be an asshole and assume anything you need to realize just because your a bitter nerd living in your moms basement doesnt mean we all are. get a life loser...

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He we go again another moron (maybe someone with an agenda hiding under this nic) spouting off about something they are clueless about.

Please try and have just the smallest clue about what you are talking about before you come on and spew bullshit. The people who engineered the mistake at iBill are still at iBill. In fact, you are probably one of them. So take some advice and go fuck yourself

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Old 03-16-2006, 09:38 AM   #15
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if they paid me double of what they owe, I would consider it.
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Old 03-16-2006, 12:37 PM   #16
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macdaddywhateverthefuck probably works for segpay, aka ibill part2. your company sucks ass
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Old 03-16-2006, 12:39 PM   #17
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Would You Go Back To IBILL?

what stupid ass would walk back into a burning building?
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Old 03-16-2006, 12:53 PM   #18
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Hey MacDaddy! Thanks for your input, however that moron comment? you can stick up your ass! I'm not hiding any agenda I simply asked because I know IBill has new owners and are giving me really great rates.
My response was to the comment made by Taniwha which was indeed a moronic comment. I never accused you of any agenda and I have no problems with your post.

The people who own iBill now are the same people who have always owned iBill.

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But I figured I would post because even though I know my fair share of internet blunders etc. like for example MacDaddy
Yes, MacDaddy wasn't a successful program, so what? Every one who ever was owed a dime got paid in full. I tried something new and am not ashamed of what we did.

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you probably know a few ex-Ibill employees dont you? they just hide under different corporation names isn't that so MacDaddy?
As an ex-iBill employee, yes I do know a lot of ex-iBill employees. Some are hiding, but I'm not and neither are many others.

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So before you decide to be an asshole and assume anything you need to realize just because your a bitter nerd living in your moms basement doesnt mean we all are. get a life loser...
No I don't live in moms basement, I have a very fulfilled life. Before you decide to be an asshole and assume anything at least make sure the post you are replying to was pointed at you.

If you have any other questions, please let me know.
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Old 03-16-2006, 12:55 PM   #19
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and another 2 post nick comes along - just - wondering if youd go back to ISUCK














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Old 03-16-2006, 01:17 PM   #20
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IT'S THE SAME OWNERS!
Oups sorry... I didn't knew that
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:19 PM   #21
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Hmmm... let me think about it..... no. Let me think about it again... Um, still no. Would you put spoiled milk back in the refrigerator hoping it will magically become fresh again?

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Old 03-16-2006, 02:29 PM   #22
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Hmmm... let me think about it..... no. Let me think about it again... Um, still no. Would you put spoiled milk back in the refrigerator hoping it will magically become fresh again?

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they owe us they owe everyone, why would anyone make any mistake twice
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:30 PM   #23
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I would use Ibill anytime. They are the absolute best possible billing company anyone could use.






























































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Old 03-16-2006, 02:34 PM   #24
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Ibill needs to turn off their site and give up. They are scum. I would never go back to those thieves.
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:52 PM   #25
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He we go again another moron (maybe someone with an agenda hiding under this nic) spouting off about something they are clueless about.

Please try and have just the smallest clue about what you are talking about before you come on and spew bullshit. The people who engineered the mistake at iBill are still at iBill. In fact, you are probably one of them. So take some advice and go fuck yourself
I am not working for anyone dick fiend so shove it up your ass. Who are you working for IS the question. Let me guess .....
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:34 PM   #26
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Anyone who even considers going back with Iball's even if they ever paid back all the stolen money needs to have their brain looked at. Fuck in hell what do they have to do to you to make you realize they are just a bunch of criminals out to steal money from the porn industry. Who gives a shit if Iball's take from Pornographers we dont deserve any better do we ?????
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Old 03-16-2006, 09:07 PM   #27
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Thats like asking me if I'd let a known crack addict borrow $10K.

They messed up too many times. If they were smart ... they'd give up on IBill and do something else under a new name.
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Old 03-16-2006, 09:17 PM   #28
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Old 03-16-2006, 09:17 PM   #29
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What's funny is that the ibill shills (or fun-loving trolls) keep starting threads like this thinking that people take them seriously
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Old 03-17-2006, 04:35 PM   #30
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If IBILL wants webmasters to come back, here is what they must do...

1) PAY EVERYONE EVERYTHING OWED, INCLUDING MONEY OWED FROM 2004, AND ALL LATE RESERVES.

2) PAY ALL CURRENT PAYOUTS ON TIME, NOT 2 DAYS LATE, OR 3 DAYS LATE

2) GIVE ACCURATE ANSWERS TO CLIENTS (THAT MEANS PUTTING SOMEONE ELSE ON CHARGE BESIDES THAT LAME ASS SECRETARY THAT ANSWERS ALL MY CALLS WITH "I DON'T KNOW, I CANT SAY")

3) FIX THE FUCKING CMI PAGE SO WE DON'T GET LOGGED OFF EVERY 10 SECONDS

If IBILL does all the above, and if I don't see any negative remarks about them for 6 months, I will give them all my business again. But untill then, FUCK YOU IBILL, MAY YOU BURN IN HELL!!!!
I would have to say that this opinion is fairly representative from honest conversations I have had with webmasters and at conferences. Everyone has problems in the industry from time to time and dealing in porn has its ups and downs frequently. Just stop breaking promises. You might have inherited the problem but its time to fix it. The Ibill brand is worth shitloads. I once talked to the COO of Coca Cola and he told me that if all the coke, trucks, people, buildings etc etc of Coca Cola were to disappear overnight, Coca Cola could be rebuilt within months because the name is so well known and was trusted for so long. Just get your fucking shit together, pay up, and webmasters will come back. If you survive this, they will think you can survive anything and you dont fuck webmasters over.

And if they don't believe me, put Ibill up for sale and I guarantee people will jump all over it for the database, weblinks, previous reputation and brand name.
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