Good, I'm glad you hate me. I'm glad you can express yourself. But I don't hate you, I refuse to hate ignorant people. I hope you have a great day [Labret], I know I will.

Heh, in my opinion, anyone who bashes somebody for asking a simple question is arrogant. But that's just what I think..

Also, Boneprone and anyone else who returns the favor that they were once given is an incredible person ;).

Their are the types of people who get help, and grow to be famous web masters, but then forget all about how they got there and think that they are too good for everyone below them.

And then their are those people who are just as famous as the person who is too good for everyone, but helps others just as they were once helped.

Now I'm not saying drop everything and start helping every person become good and knowledgable in this biz..I'm just saying don't be pricks to people who have potential in becoming legitimet porn web masters. [Labret] said that some people learned everything on their own, wich is true. But still - don't you think most of those people who did learn on their own helped others learn what they learned?

oh for the love of christ...... is it whiners night on GFY or someting?

I love newbies.. Send them to me.. Just check the dub dub dub.

:winkwink:

PEACE

You are becoming more pathetic with each passing day. Shit like you doesn't last ten minutes on the street. But you already knew that.

So sayeth Drumsicle. From Big TItty Land. Internet badass, protector of messageboard Zionism... King of the "streets".

It's whatever night you'd like it to be, Amp :thumbsup

Ha - that's like saying you own the wind.......

Since its Bash on Newbies night at GFY, here's a tip to the newbs. Someone helped me when I was getting up there, now its my turn to give you the trick I learned along the way. I've moved on to paysite tour tricks but I figured I'd pass along a key TGP "secret" I learned on my own. I paid off my condo in 2000 using this simple trick: when building TGP galleries make sure you link to an FPA you created. Tweak this FPA until you get over 25% click through to your sponsor's join page. How do you tweak it? Easy, which part of the FPA do they click from? Where do they come from? A little trial and error and statistical analysis will make you $$$ It also helps to make the FPA look a little bit like the order page of your sponsor.


Innovators and people who succeed have nothing to fear from copiers. Copiers know WHAT seems to succeed. Innovators and workers know WHY things succeed.

Good luck to all the newbs, and don't let the haters get you down.

Could it be just a major fear of rejection. Perhaps fear of failure.
Hello, I am Frazier Krane. Good Morning Seattle.

::::watching the phone lines light up::::::

can't we all just fist each other?

As long as you wash your hands properly.

here the thing, It wasn't A simple question. It went on, and on, and on, and on. I was too nice to tell him to GFY, hopin ghe would just go away. I talk to most everyone who takes the time to ICQ me, but I just can't stand stupid questions that keep repeating and repeating.............esp when I'm working. If I'd have told him to go away he'd be just as pissed off.

LMAO! internet badass? talk about the pot and the kettle.

lol. Just ask 12Clicks how many times he's told me that he's busy and he'll message me whenever he's ready.

You're so full of shit.

LOL

This thread is funny.

I even sent you an apology (and yes, it was sincere) about disturbing you while you were working. Honest to god, i had no idea you were busy. If i did, i wouldn't have messaged you in the first place.

That's twice i've apologised (once earlier in the thread, and once in the icq message), and both times, you haven't accepted it.

Sleazy, I kinda' know how you feel. I'm a web designer, and when people message me on ICQ asking me how to do this and that over and over again it pisses me off a bit too...

What I usually do is still try and answer them to the best of my knowledge, unless of course they were asking these questions to irritate me. If that was the case in your scenario, then you do have a point. But if he was asking them just so he could learn, you could have been nice about it - and if you were busy, then I'm sure he would understand if you said something along the lines of "I have a lot of work to do, i gotta go". And if he would get mad at something like that, then he would come out as the asshole.

Now I'm not taking sides here, and I have nothing against either one of you, I'm just saying what I believe in.

One tip I would give to newbies is to find a board that supports newbies... This one is really not the most appropriate forum (No offence intended Lens) but most people who post here are more or less professionals who do this for a living and don't have the time or patience to handle silly abc questions.

I have to agree with the big boys though, sometimes it feels like the newbs just want everything handed to them and they aren't willing to work for it like the rest of us.... That is something that constantly pisses me off. They want instant results and want to be the next hun by next week. Oh and you got to love these questions...

"Tell me everywhere you submit"

"Send me so and so's ICQ so I can get them to give me partner status"

"tell me all your good sponsors"

Yadda, yadda, yadda!

DH:glugglug

hehe... I've been reading what I've posted in this thread - and it sound's like I'm a Saint :angel

You know what's funny is that Choda <B>MIGHT</B> win a DVD player for this post ;)

all the more incentive to make more $$$$

use anger to your favor.

Fully understand that though. The questions everyone has been putting up, i agree, fucking stupid questions. But i didn't ask one of those damn questions! The things i asked were stuff like.. what was the chacne of a traffic trade. He told me that i'd have to send him enough traffic for him to notice. So i said, alright.. Then i asked a good place to buy some traffic. He recommended the place in his signature. Next thing i know, i'm checkin' out GFY and there's this post, obviously directed at me and any other person he considers a newbie that happened to message him today.

I just think it was uncalled for.

Haha, that would be a laugh :1orglaugh

Some people think the world revolves around them. I was actually referring to someone else who had icqed me but since you have such a self-center world view I played you on it. Get over it.

If I walked into MacDonalds and asked them how to open a chain of hamburger restaurants, I woud deserve the same response you got.

That some people were polite was a result. You deserved the response you got from Sleazydream, from everyone.

Ask me how to be a photographer. I will give general info that is freely available, but nothing that will make a difference. Am I going too help you take my business?

Learn the hard way like we had to and as far as the net is concerned, we are doing now.

You act like i was asking him to throw me traffic. Or ask him how to run every aspect of my site or something. Shit, most of the stuff i asked him was stuff that would benefit both of us. I didn't want him to give me traffic. I wanted to trade traffic (and only once i had enough traffic for him to consider it to be a reasonable trade).

I've apologoised for bothering him. He hasn't accepted it.

benefit us both? what are you smoking?????????/

should I get nervous now:uhoh

*pinch*:Graucho

I thought that was the entire point of trading Traffic.. Both people benefit from it. Or did i miss something?

Of course, trading traffic with me NOW would not benefit you whatsoever. But if we were to trade traffic and have a decent amount going both ways, why wouldn't it benefit you?

I did want a trade, I didn't want a trade - make up your mind.

"Can't we all just get along"

......somebody had to say it :1orglaugh

chodadog..

life is a lesson, consider this as an experience and learn from it,
grow from it..

dont dwell on it, take people for what they are, thats all anybody can say to you.

dwelling on it is just wasting your own time

Biggy, that's some good shit right there :thumbsup

Break time's over. Everyone back to work.

crap..... I didn't even hear the buzzer....

This is what i said to you after you told me how much traffic i needed to send:

"taht's good to hear ;)
i'll definetley hit you up about that at a later stage. thanks for the info man"

Yeah. i was being a real asshole... *cough*

there's a sutle difference between an asshole and an idiot. I hear it's determined by the size of your income...........

Oh... right.. so.. i'm an idiot if i don't have a large income.. even though i'm new.. but i'm not supposed to expect to become huge over night..

So.. Everyone is an idiot until they start earning big money?

Oh, and by the way.. I just thought this was odd..
Why is it that, if you were oh so busy... You had time to tell me about this sex.com thing. I thought it was interesting and all.. But i didn't exactly ask to hear about it.. you just started telling me about it. Can't have been too busy.

Regardless, i apologise a third time for bothering you while you were busy.

yup. That's pretty much right, if you ever make big money and look back you'll agree that you were pretty much an idiot before you made big money.