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SmokeyTheBear · 03-13-2006, 06:10 PM

Ok well i think it warrants a thread, i think the mods were deleting the threads because the poster wasnt providing proof in the same post as he made accusations.. if you wanna make accusations post proof in the same post.

Juicy D. Links · 03-13-2006, 06:13 PM

Smokey did you know that

"Only You can stop forest fires?"

SmokeyTheBear · 03-13-2006, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Smokey did you know that

"Only You can stop forest fires?"

Unless i start them when im drunk then i'm no good.This Fur is a bitch

Xplicit · 03-13-2006, 06:15 PM

LOL but strangely the guy replied with links hosted on met-arts domain which was basically a list of a books to buy on amazon to find nude underage girls in.

Like I said in that thread, if some newbie came here and got caught with that shit on their site, they would have been trashed.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-13-2006, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit

LOL but strangely the guy replied with links hosted on met-arts domain which was basically a list of a books to buy on amazon to find nude underage girls in.

Like I said in that thread, if some newbie came here and got caught with that shit on their site, they would have been trashed.

true but cp is a serious accusation, if you start a thread about it , the proof should be in the first post .. im sure a mod looked , didnt see any proof int he first post and canned it..

Xplicit · 03-13-2006, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

true but cp is a serious accusation, if you start a thread about it , the proof should be in the first post .. im sure a mod looked , didnt see any proof int he first post and canned it..

Agreed. I hate those threads that just warn that "drama is comming", its like, christ, just spill the beans, we dont need a fucking intro.

Downtime · 03-13-2006, 06:19 PM

Damian_Maxcash · 03-13-2006, 06:19 PM

but he did post it - and it was there when the thread was axed.

directfiesta · 03-13-2006, 06:20 PM

No proof ... no thread ... This is a serious accusation and shouldnèt even be made here... If someone has CP, they should be reported to authorities...

polish_aristocrat · 03-13-2006, 06:20 PM

now this is interesting

http://met-art.com/books/index11.htm
http://met-art.com/books/fa.jpg

file not found anymore

SmokeyTheBear · 03-13-2006, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

now this is interesting

http://met-art.com/books/index11.htm
http://met-art.com/books/fa.jpg

file not found anymore

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...n&ct=clnk&cd=1

Damian_Maxcash · 03-13-2006, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

now this is interesting

http://met-art.com/books/index11.htm
http://met-art.com/books/fa.jpg

file not found anymore

Yes - and fuck it - I will say it - That was CP on those links.

Mods - dont blow my faith in GFY - this is pretty underhand stuff.

Xplicit · 03-13-2006, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

now this is interesting

http://met-art.com/books/index11.htm
http://met-art.com/books/fa.jpg

file not found anymore

LOL, what a surprise.

Too bad its cached on multiple search engines

Juicy D. Links · 03-13-2006, 06:27 PM

i thought you were talking about metropoltan museum of art here in NY

Damian_Maxcash · 03-13-2006, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

i thought you were talking about metropoltan museum of art here in NY

Dear god - are they pushing CP as well? - now thats drama

Pornwolf · 03-13-2006, 06:33 PM

Some of those girls do look a bit young. How could they stay open for so long if they were breaking laws. It's not like it's an underground CP site. They are one of the most recognizeable porn sites on the web.

Damian_Maxcash · 03-13-2006, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Some of those girls do look a bit young. How could they stay open for so long if they were breaking laws. It's not like it's an underground CP site. They are one of the most recognizeable porn sites on the web.

Its art

RawAlex · 03-13-2006, 06:35 PM

It's not art if it is pushed on a porn site - context is VERY important.

Alex

quantum-x · 03-13-2006, 06:35 PM

Woot, http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...083411-9256759 is dead now too ;)

SmokeyTheBear · 03-13-2006, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Some of those girls do look a bit young. How could they stay open for so long if they were breaking laws. It's not like it's an underground CP site. They are one of the most recognizeable porn sites on the web.

well i remember back in the day you would see met-art pictures on the newgroups and they certainly looked like cp to me.. , but i was never sure if it was just rogue affiliates or what.. after i saw them on gfy i looked at the site and it looked fairly clean so , dont know if they cleaned up their act or always skated the thin line

Kevsh · 03-13-2006, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

It's not art if it is pushed on a porn site - context is VERY important.

Alex

I'm not going one way or another on this whole topic, but look at Met-Art's home page - I'd say at first glance they are definetly pushing the "art" angle here.

RawAlex · 03-13-2006, 06:45 PM

Kevsh, it is a question of the old "prurient interest". You have girls kissing, spread legs, exposed genitalia, etc... all the things required to make it "porn" rather than art. I know that their defence would always be art, but the reality is that it is just higher class spank material for people who prefer that sort of thing.

As a side note, Met-art specifically blocks off the wayback machine from caching past pages... most interesting.

Alex

SmokeyTheBear · 03-13-2006, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh

I'm not going one way or another on this whole topic, but look at Met-Art's home page - I'd say at first glance they are definetly pushing the "art" angle here.

the pictures on the front page are all over 18 and they have 2257 for those .. the other girls def appeared younger ( in the links posted )

polish_aristocrat · 03-13-2006, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

well i remember back in the day you would see met-art pictures on the newgroups and they certainly looked like cp to me.. , but i was never sure if it was just rogue affiliates or what.. after i saw them on gfy i looked at the site and it looked fairly clean so , dont know if they cleaned up their act or always skated the thin line

search GUBA for it lol

Damian_Maxcash · 03-13-2006, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

search GUBA for it lol

lol - now thats a whole new drama!

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mikeyddddd · 03-13-2006, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...n&ct=clnk&cd=1

Thanks. I had a few links that I removed after I saw that.

V_RocKs · 03-13-2006, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Smokey did you know that

"Only You can stop forest fires?"

Post proof or this thread is closed!

The Sultan Of Smut · 03-13-2006, 07:30 PM

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Jeffrey J. Douglas · 03-13-2006, 10:02 PM

I am the lawyer for MET-Art. Credentials are below.

I have reviewed thousands of images and the associated identification documents for MET-Art. MET-Art is in full compliance with 18 U.S.C. section 2257. There are no images which are of persons under eighteen years old.

It is the easiest thing in the world to make an accusation that a website or other content producer is distributing child pornography. That is especially true in an anonymous forum like this. But the law is quite different than the mob, or a malicious, anonymous liar claims.

Distribution of child pornography is a crime when it is _knowing and deliberate_. If you distribute a photograph of a model, when you believe in good faith that s/he is 18 years old, but the photographer provided you with false documentation and related assurances, you have committed no crime. I have reviewed the documentation. There is not only no reason to believe any of the models are underage, there are thousands of documents supporting that the models are of age.

If the accuser actually had information that any model were underage, (a) they would turn it over to the Feds or other reporting agency, or (b) specify which model or photoset they believe depicts an underage person. Why would someone who had ?proof? satisfy themselves with defaming MET-Art? If they were as hostile as the postings suggest, why alert MET-Art? Why not just be a Federal snitch?

It makes sense to post a child pornography allegation here only if you are lying. Otherwise, if you are hostile, rat them out and if you are neutral, tip off the management. If you have nothing but malice, all you can do is to post vicious lies, confident that some people always believe the worst.

Regarding the static about the book, years ago MET-Art linked book sales through Amazon.com. MET-Art sold no books itself. Someone fetched inactive pages. The links have not been active on the live site in years. If there was questionable content in any of those books, Amazon is the one that sold them.

MET-Art has the highest end nude photography, and outstanding documentation of legal age. It is inevitable a jealous competitor or a jilted photographer seizes on the environmental paranoia and accuses the best of being the worst. The questions are: 1. Are you all going to fall for it? 2. Who are you going to turn to when some anonymous posting says the same thing about you?

JEFFREY J. DOUGLAS is a Santa Monica lawyer, representing all segments of the adult entertainment industry since 1982. He is Chair of the Board of Directors of the Free Speech Coalition, the trade association of the adult entertainment industry and Chairman Emeritus of the First Amendment Lawyers Association. A nationally recognized spokesperson for the adult entertainment industry, as well as an expert witness, Mr. Douglas appears regularly as a media commentator, and on invitation, has testified before Congress. He is the author of numerous magazine articles.

Nurgle · 03-13-2006, 10:05 PM

nice reply from met-art

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Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Some of those girls do look a bit young. How could they stay open for so long if they were breaking laws. It's not like it's an underground CP site. They are one of the most recognizeable porn sites on the web. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

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Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	LOL but strangely the guy replied with links hosted on met-arts domain which was basically a list of a books to buy on amazon to find nude underage girls in. Like I said in that thread, if some newbie came here and got caught with that shit on their site, they would have been trashed.

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Kevsh, it is a question of the old "prurient interest". You have girls kissing, spread legs, exposed genitalia, etc... all the things required to make it "porn" rather than art. I know that their defence would always be art, but the reality is that it is just higher class spank material for people who prefer that sort of thing. As a side note, Met-art specifically blocks off the wayback machine from caching past pages... most interesting. Alex

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03-13-2006, 10:02 PM	#30
Jeffrey J. Douglas Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2	MET-Art Speaks I am the lawyer for MET-Art. Credentials are below. I have reviewed thousands of images and the associated identification documents for MET-Art. MET-Art is in full compliance with 18 U.S.C. section 2257. There are no images which are of persons under eighteen years old. It is the easiest thing in the world to make an accusation that a website or other content producer is distributing child pornography. That is especially true in an anonymous forum like this. But the law is quite different than the mob, or a malicious, anonymous liar claims. Distribution of child pornography is a crime when it is _knowing and deliberate_. If you distribute a photograph of a model, when you believe in good faith that s/he is 18 years old, but the photographer provided you with false documentation and related assurances, you have committed no crime. I have reviewed the documentation. There is not only no reason to believe any of the models are underage, there are thousands of documents supporting that the models are of age. If the accuser actually had information that any model were underage, (a) they would turn it over to the Feds or other reporting agency, or (b) specify which model or photoset they believe depicts an underage person. Why would someone who had ?proof? satisfy themselves with defaming MET-Art? If they were as hostile as the postings suggest, why alert MET-Art? Why not just be a Federal snitch? It makes sense to post a child pornography allegation here only if you are lying. Otherwise, if you are hostile, rat them out and if you are neutral, tip off the management. If you have nothing but malice, all you can do is to post vicious lies, confident that some people always believe the worst. Regarding the static about the book, years ago MET-Art linked book sales through Amazon.com. MET-Art sold no books itself. Someone fetched inactive pages. The links have not been active on the live site in years. If there was questionable content in any of those books, Amazon is the one that sold them. MET-Art has the highest end nude photography, and outstanding documentation of legal age. It is inevitable a jealous competitor or a jilted photographer seizes on the environmental paranoia and accuses the best of being the worst. The questions are: 1. Are you all going to fall for it? 2. Who are you going to turn to when some anonymous posting says the same thing about you? JEFFREY J. DOUGLAS is a Santa Monica lawyer, representing all segments of the adult entertainment industry since 1982. He is Chair of the Board of Directors of the Free Speech Coalition, the trade association of the adult entertainment industry and Chairman Emeritus of the First Amendment Lawyers Association. A nationally recognized spokesperson for the adult entertainment industry, as well as an expert witness, Mr. Douglas appears regularly as a media commentator, and on invitation, has testified before Congress. He is the author of numerous magazine articles.

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