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Old 03-12-2006, 07:37 PM   #1
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I don't post here anymore but...I gotta give a shout out!

To Abyss Al and the fine folks at Swank Dollars for all the gear! Holy shit, you didn't have to send that much! I passed out all the beanies and shirts and everyone loved them. Thanks, AL!

While I'm at it...Thanks to Texas Dreams and Loryn for all the GFY digs! Got my hoodie, t-shirts, cap, and other cool stuff. Kinda ironic that I received all the GFY gear the day I quit posting here.

Well, that's it. I just had to post to thank everyone and that's it. Robcrest. Out.
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:45 PM   #2
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:47 PM   #3
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:47 PM   #4
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I think there's a big drama accusation connected with you and scamming someone from an Xbox...
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:48 PM   #5
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why don't you post here anymore?
Lots going on in my life and GFY took up too much of my time. I have been so much more productive since I quit posting 3 months ago.

It's amazing how much more shit you can accomplish if you can pull yourself away from GFY for a minute.
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:49 PM   #6
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Can I have your GFY account ? :D
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:50 PM   #7
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Cause he's a liar.
Another reason is because of dickheads like this that do nothing but post stupid shit 24/7. The one's that have no life other than that on GFY.
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:50 PM   #8
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Once you make your first post on GFY, you can never really stop.

You know that.............
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:50 PM   #9
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scammers are the shizzle..im out
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:51 PM   #10
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I think there's a big drama accusation connected with you and scamming someone from an Xbox...
Never scammed anyone in my entire life.
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:51 PM   #11
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Since you dont post here anymore. Can I have your postcount?
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:55 PM   #12
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Never scammed anyone in my entire life.
Don't you owe SilverTab an XBox?
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:57 PM   #13
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Cause he's a liar.
And you think you have the right to judge people you fat headed uni-brow having reject? Find some tweezers and a diet plan then you can pass judgement. Fucking Ernie look-alike.

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Old 03-12-2006, 07:58 PM   #14
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And you think you have the right to judge people you fat headed uni-brow having reject? Find some tweezers and a diet plan then you can pass judgement. Fucking Ernie look-alike.

All he can do is insult my physical appearance. Considering that was over a year ago and I've changed a lot since then I won't take offense to it.

Rob is still a scamming liar - FACT.
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Old 03-12-2006, 07:59 PM   #15
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All he can do is insult my physical appearance. Considering that was over a year ago and I've changed a lot since then I won't take offense to it.

Rob is still a scamming liar - FACT.
Sig whore says what?
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Old 03-12-2006, 08:00 PM   #16
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So you're a liar and a scammer cool thanks.
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Old 03-12-2006, 08:03 PM   #17
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So you're a liar and a scammer cool thanks.
Like you even fucking know me. Quit being a little drama queen. Look at me, I'm fabulous! Is that the only way you can get attention?

Think what you want. Say what you want. I can really give a rat's ass what you and your grossly oversized head think about me. So spare me the little "You're a scammer and liar" replies and go play in traffic.
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Old 03-12-2006, 08:04 PM   #18
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You didn't answer this question.
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Old 03-12-2006, 08:04 PM   #19
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Yeah, what ever happened with that?
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Old 03-12-2006, 08:06 PM   #20
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Don't you owe SilverTab an XBox?
Nope, I sure don't. I don't owe SilverTab an Xbox.

I just love when people speak out their asses and don't even know what the fuck is going on. This place has more drama than daytime t.v. and it's because of little drama queens like BradM and NoCarrier.
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Nope, I sure don't. I don't owe SilverTab an Xbox.

I just love when people speak out their asses and don't even know what the fuck is going on. This place has more drama than daytime t.v. and it's because of little drama queens like BradM and NoCarrier.
Well, while you're here, would you mind explaining to us why you no longer own SilverTab an XBox 360? You declared him the winner in your contest and he never received it. So why do you no longer own him an XBox 360?

I know it has put a lot of people off from ordering business cards from you.
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Old 03-12-2006, 08:10 PM   #22
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PEACE OUT, FUCKERS!!!
I got sick just logging in to this shit hole to give my shout outs and I'm feeling nauseous again. Hope some of you get jobs and realize that there's more to life than GFY.

For those who are my friends...see you on ICQ or email. The rest of you can go fuck yourselves.
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PEACE OUT, FUCKERS!!!
I got sick just logging in to this shit hole to give my shout outs and I'm feeling nauseous again. Hope some of you get jobs and realize that there's more to life than GFY.

For those who are my friends...see you on ICQ or email. The rest of you can go fuck yourselves.
Passing up a golden oppurtunity to clear your name when your integrity is called in to question? Now why would someone do that?
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Passing up a golden oppurtunity to clear your name when your integrity is called in to question? Now why would someone do that?
Because Rob is a scammer and a liar.
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Hey if you guys could spend $900 a day and still retire a millionaire you wouldn't be posting here either. ;)
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Old 03-12-2006, 11:56 PM   #27
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haha didn't he sell acid flyers for millions? (/sarcasm) and he can't afford a fucking xbox 360...i shit dozens of 360's every weekend.
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I wonder why the admins haven't banned him yet for having fake contests
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Give someone an xbox, you scamming sack of shit.
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That's pretty fucked up. He got exposure to his website and his brandname, but never paid up the prize/price.

XBOX 360 = $500
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Funny how people were calling me a hater. Stupid brown nosers. That fucking cocksucker is a scammer and a liar.

I feel sorry for Silvertab. He really deserved it. Especially after the robbery.
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Yes, I heard he went into surgery.... but it was a while ago (maybe 2-3 days after I won the contest)...


But that's pretty much why I didn't insist... He could still be in hospital or something...and if that's the case, I'm not gonna be the annoying prick who keeps talking about an xbox contest, as Im pretty sure he got other things on his mind....

One thing for sure, he's not on ICQ, and not answering his email, so I guess I'll wait!
What a lying piece of shit.. Amazing.
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ONly got one comment. FUCK OFF SCAMMER.. Nah 2..... Scum
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Welcome back Rob! Looks like you're posting again.

GFY can be a place to make $. It is "THE" webmaster board on the net.

You're right it easy to waste time on GFY when one should be working, on the other hand, ya can make some contacts and spam your services.

Some have done well spending day-in, day-out on GFY. Look at all the affilates Jucy signed for FleshLight. Also a great place for branding.
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Funny how people were calling me a hater. Stupid brown nosers. That fucking cocksucker is a scammer and a liar.

I feel sorry for Silvertab. He really deserved it. Especially after the robbery.
Gotta admit I thought you were riding him too hard, but his disappearance and lack of explanation in this thread re confirms what you were saying.
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Lets give him the benefit of the doubt. I mean we all know how hard Xbox 360's were to find in the beginning. Maybe he's still trying to find one and make it right lmfao
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Lets give him the benefit of the doubt. I mean we all know how hard Xbox 360's were to find in the beginning. Maybe he's still trying to find one and make it right lmfao
They weren't hard for Rob to find, in the height of the xbox frenzy he was able to walk up to a store and buy the display model for cheap.
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They weren't hard for Rob to find, in the height of the xbox frenzy he was able to walk up to a store and buy the display model for cheap.
Yeah I know... At MSRP too. Whata bargain lol
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He was able to walk up to a store and buy the display model for cheap.
OMG?! You still believe that?

Yeah. Some store manager offered him 30% off (Just because he was a nice guy) when people were buying them at 1k on Ebay. Sure.

We never saw the Xbox 360 pictures and we never saw any pictures of the receipt like he promised. A guy making business cards doesn't have a digital camera.. Right..
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OMG?! You still believe that?

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My post was sarcastic.
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"Phew".
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A guy making business cards doesn't have a digital camera.. Right..
I find it hard to believe he even makes business cards. He probably uses Kinkos or something. lol
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