Monarch is like 1.5 miles from me, so I think i can trust them a little when I walk into the warehouse and ask for something ;)

I will be getting Vista when any other smart person will be....after it has been out about a year and all the bugs are worked out

shit, remember the windowsme fiasco? I ain't going through that shit

it does sound bloated though. how much ram/space does a linux or unix install need?

:1orglaugh I heard they're replacing solitaire with everquest

Not much. I think you can run some linux-installations from CD.
But I don't think you can directly compare linux with vista.

If you know to handle a computer of course you use unix/linux.
And don't have to insult people thinking it is wrong of Microsoft taking over and users follow like lambs.

comparing the two - they're both operating systems. okay, so microsoft adds a pretty interface. but why does microsoft need so much more code and resources?

The only thing in Vista that looks half decent is MHS.. Although I'm going to wait for Windows Server 2007

I honestly do not care how much RAM a system needs for the OS. How about Micro$oft actually takes their bloated OS, and make one that is STABLE and not full of bugs. I am sure people could give a good goddamn if it took a gig of RAM if it was not full of holes, and required endless patches all the time.

:disgust

for those of you that read the article instead of just the title would realize that it a FUD article

"Vista eats as much as 800Mb of system memory. "

remember that vista allow you to prioritize programs so they will minimize the use of page file and utilize available memory to maximize the effectiveness of switching between programs

If you did this and then minimized the apps so they were out of main process
you would get a performace page exactly like the one shown.

http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/ramvista.JPG
take a look at the huge spike in the cpu history, and relevent number in paged vs non page kernel memory and you can tell that is exactly the configuiration this FUDmeister did when they wrote the article.

1. he's running a BETA
2. vista comes in not 1 but 5 different version yes FIVE!
3. the home edition won't have all the fancy visual crap that will eat up virtual memory and ram.
4. if you want all the stuff flying around on your screen and 3d effects its going to need more RAM!

i'm running winxp pro and its using 1103M / 2201M. so 800m is nothing, i wonder if that guy knows that part of it is virtual mem

TGF is right, come on, even if you only have 512 megs now, you toss in another gig for $100 and you are set... hardly worth sweating about... It's like bitching that you need a $300 graphics card to play some newest games, if you wanna play, you gotta pay...

yes, but is a new version of windows really worth spending several hundred dollars over?

I want my OS to be functional, that's it. if I want bells and whistles, I'll install them myself.

MS is not forcing anyone to get the new version it's just will be out there. Corporations still use win 2000. Vista is coming out later this year and Win XP SP3 is scheduled for release early 2007. so MS is not forcing anyone to upgrade just giving you the option to take advantage of 64bit processing and a lot more interactive crap and upgrades. all my computers are atleast 1gig - 2gig in ram. RAM is really cheap cruial.com has really good deals

If it's not worth it to you, then don't buy it, I won't buy it myself either, fuck spending few hundred on an update that doesn't add shit, besides some colorful animations, some window effects, new version of IE (which I won't use anyway), new media player (won't use anyway), and maybe 2 other useless things... yea, the graphics are cute, but they don't really get my work done any faster/better...

ROTFL!!! :1orglaugh :thumbsup

There are 5 versions of Vista. Not to mention it's a screenshot at one particular time on the guys computer. There is no way in hell that this will use over 800MB, atleast not on the version they plan to sell to the majority of the public. So many other factors can play in there too.

It's just another stupid tech article with an unfounded rumor. Remember how XBox 360's were going to retail at $1000.