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Old 03-08-2006, 05:44 PM   #1
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**XBIZ NEWS ALERT!!! House Passes 2257-Related Bill**

The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill today that includes an embedded provision that revises and strengthens 2257 record-keeping law and makes it an even more formidable task for adult website operators to remain in compliance. http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=13811
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:47 PM   #2
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what a crock of shit
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:49 PM   #3
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:50 PM   #4
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:51 PM   #5
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:51 PM   #6
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The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill today that includes an embedded provision that revises and strengthens 2257 record-keeping law and makes it an even more formidable task for adult website operators to remain in compliance. http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=13811
I'm sorry, could you repeat that, i got sidetracked by your sexiness
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:51 PM   #7
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Of course it's the REPUBLICANS that are forcing this shit on us. Any other Bush lover still want to keep sucking his cock?

"introduced in September by Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind. strengthening the recently amended U.S.C. 18 § 2257 requirements by adding requirements for record keepers and authorizing civil and criminal asset forfeiture in child exploitation and obscenity cases.

Industry attorney Jeff Douglas told XBiz that the bill is a substantial reenactment of 2257, and in its current form would redefine the term ?producer? to include what is now categorized as ?secondary producer,? effectively undoing the 10th Circuit?s 1998 decision in Sundance Associates vs. Reno.

The bill was passed under a suspension of House rules, so no debate or discussions were allowed, Douglas said, further signaling a possible agenda on the part of lawmakers to rush it through to the Oval Office as quickly as possible.

?According to a House Republican, they have gotten a guarantee that the Senate also will take it up in an expedited fashion, and this suggests they don?t intend to hold any hearings,? Douglas said, adding that there has never been a congressional hearing on 2257 law since it was enacted in 1988.
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:51 PM   #8
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:51 PM   #9
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:53 PM   #10
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I don't remember reading about this before, so did it sneak through unnoticed by the industry or did I just miss Xbiz or FSC or anyone else's coverage of it?
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:53 PM   #11
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:54 PM   #12
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:55 PM   #13
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whoohoo asset forfeiture, yippie. To think people thought I was being paranoid when I declared that the use of the word conspiracy in the proposed 2257 rules was gunna fuck us.

They are so prepping to go after this industry mob style.
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:55 PM   #14
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:56 PM   #15
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:57 PM   #16
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The most noticeable thing is the addition of "simulated sex" being under this provision. Now they are fucking with the Motion Picture companies, and big big pocketbooks.
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:58 PM   #17
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i wonder if this law would require adult film store owners to keep 2257 records on every pornstar in every video ?

Or for that matter even R-rated video stores like blockbuster.. This new section includes "simulated sex" so shouldnt they have to keep records on hand the same way ?
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or big online sites like netflix or even google video that shows "simulated sex"
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Old 03-08-2006, 06:02 PM   #19
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or big online sites like netflix or even google video that shows "simulated sex"
I have a feeling this law, like many, won't apply to major companies with lots of money.
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Old 03-08-2006, 06:03 PM   #20
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Old 03-08-2006, 06:05 PM   #21
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Old 03-08-2006, 06:09 PM   #22
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i wonder if this law would require adult film store owners to keep 2257 records on every pornstar in every video ?

Or for that matter even R-rated video stores like blockbuster.. This new section includes "simulated sex" so shouldnt they have to keep records on hand the same way ?
i cant imagine them coming after netflix or blockbuster,this is clearly directed towards us.its the man trying to keep us down yet again...
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This is just more poorly executed political legislation that will never fly in the courts and be ruled unconstitutional.

This has been going on for decades.
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Did anyone watch the Senate hearings on CSPAN a few weeks ago? They scared the crap out of me. The people in charge of this stuff have no fucking clue of how the internet works. One of them - A US Senator, who creates our nation's laws - had no idea what "email" was.
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I believe this is only in relations to content producers is that correct. How do people owning MGP's or TGP's get involved?
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I believe this is only in relations to content producers is that correct. How do people owning MGP's or TGP's get involved?
If they are able to play with the producer and secondary producer deffinitions, it effects everybody.
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What a corrupt bunch of piece of shits our politicians are..
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This has been going on for decades.


"However, it does not affect the current status of the appeal of the preliminary injunction because the new law will only affect content created on or after the effective date it is passed."
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What a corrupt bunch of piece of shits our politicians are..
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Did anyone watch the Senate hearings on CSPAN a few weeks ago? They scared the crap out of me. The people in charge of this stuff have no fucking clue of how the internet works. One of them - A US Senator, who creates our nation's laws - had no idea what "email" was.

From Thomas Jefferson

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.""

I think we're getting very close to this.
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"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.""

I think we're getting very close to this.
Would that it were true.

Unfortunately, as a nation, many are apathetic. And, what's worse, many are in agreement with the current administration.
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Would that it were true.

Unfortunately, as a nation, many are apathetic. And, what's worse, many are in agreement with the current administration.
Then they should be the first to be summarily shot.
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