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Old 03-20-2006, 06:38 PM   #1
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I really am starting to think our (US) Gov't allowed 9/11...

I am not a conspiracy theorist...

I only put tinfoil on my left overs, but come on...

First there is a memo "Terrorists gonna attack by jets"...

Now there is this FBI agent at the Moussaoui Trial that says he tried for 4 fucking weeks to tell about pretty much everyone about it, and they just told him to basically go away...

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This is fucking ridiculous. When are people other than so-called "terrorists" gonna start taking the blame for this bullshit?
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:19 PM   #2
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The truth is out there. Start by looking in Building 7 World Trade Center - Room 1301
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:49 PM   #6
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Would make a lot of sence ... but nobody will know the truth, at least not for a while
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:53 PM   #7
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Would make a lot of sence ... but nobody will know the truth, at least not for a while
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:59 PM   #8
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First there is a memo "Terrorists gonna attack by jets"...
Im sure there are millions of memos on what possible terrorist attacks may occour, it would take an infinite amount of money to explore each senario...
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We knew more than we let on i'm sure of that.
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not that anyone cares but heres a little gif i threw together of wtc7 suspicious debris/explosions

its a big gif so let it load..

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you have to look really closely , but you can see a set of explosions going UP from about tenth floor from the top, to the top
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Old 03-20-2006, 08:25 PM   #13
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Old 03-20-2006, 08:36 PM   #14
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Have you ever picked up a phone and called any government agency, be it local, state or federal?

You're dealing with massive beauracracies, with departments, divisions, sub-divisions, computers that don't communicate with each other, turf battles, people that can't be fired easily even when they are incompetent, etc.

Think about how much fraud and waste is in the Billion dollars that goes to the Department of Defense every single day?

Think about how contracts are awarded to connected companies.

Our debt went up $3 Trillion in the last couple years. Just keep those printing presses running, no ones counting.

LOL, the government is so huge and discombobulated its beyond funny.
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I wonder what people are saying about their president now!
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Old 03-20-2006, 09:17 PM   #17
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You fuckers can't have it both ways. If the Gov't is proactive you bitch about Bush this and Bush that but you want to bash the Gov't for not doing enough pre-911 ?

You either put on the war paint and fight the fuckers or bend over and wait for them to fuck us again !
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Old 03-20-2006, 09:21 PM   #18
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the government admitted to knowing about it beforehand like a month after the attacks..
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The United States is one country I have to say is completely and truly Fucked Up!
But that's what makes it work so well. Nobody can figure out what's really going on, so people just shrug their shoulders, and figure its all ok.

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Srsly how many fuckin threads do we need about this crap? Two a day at least I guess.
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Old 03-20-2006, 09:35 PM   #21
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Im sure there are millions of memos on what possible terrorist attacks may occour, it would take an infinite amount of money to explore each senario...
Congratulations on focusing in on the least important part of this post...
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Old 03-20-2006, 09:45 PM   #22
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Srsly how many fuckin threads do we need about this crap? Two a day at least I guess.
That's the beauty of have a brain, you can choose not to read the post. I don't think the title was misleading, so no one is making you read it. But, for some reason you felt to need to read and then the need to post... I bet you used to stick your tongue on frozen sign posts too huh?
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not that anyone cares but heres a little gif i threw together of wtc7 suspicious debris/explosions
The theory of these explosions in the WTC buildings being caused by explosives placed in the building is flawed. The sheer force and pressure of inner floors collapsing before the exterior would cause windows to blow out and appear to be explosions.
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That's the beauty of have a brain, you can choose not to read the post. I don't think the title was misleading, so no one is making you read it. But, for some reason you felt to need to read and then the need to post... I bet you used to stick your tongue on frozen sign posts too huh?
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The theory of these explosions in the WTC buildings being caused by explosives placed in the building is flawed. The sheer force and pressure of inner floors collapsing before the exterior would cause windows to blow out and appear to be explosions.
Logic? Thats not allowed in the conspiracy area.
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.............. discombobulated .......
Damn thats a cool word - Im keeping that one
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The theory of these explosions in the WTC buildings being caused by explosives placed in the building is flawed. The sheer force and pressure of inner floors collapsing before the exterior would cause windows to blow out and appear to be explosions.
thats what i was gonna say.

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It wouldn't matter if the entire american population was shown 100% proof that their government let 9/11 happen, they would still do absolutely nothing about it.
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The theory of these explosions in the WTC buildings being caused by explosives placed in the building is flawed. The sheer force and pressure of inner floors collapsing before the exterior would cause windows to blow out and appear to be explosions.

use that same explanation to explain the sound waves from the explosions that travelled across the bay and hit the microphones of people videotaping
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It wouldn't matter if the entire american population was shown 100% proof that their government let 9/11 happen, they would still do absolutely nothing about it.

exactly the usa hasnt been a free country since Woodrow wilson

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not that anyone cares but heres a little gif i threw together of wtc7 suspicious debris/explosions

its a big gif so let it load..

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I haven't been following his trial, but I recall they had a laptop of his that a judge wouldn't grant anyone access to. Then after 9/11 they found stuff on there that could have stopped 9/11. Has that come up yet?
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The day after 9/11, there was an air traffic controller in Baltimore who mysteriously died of a heart attack (at 30 something) after reporting first to local news, then to national news that he had radar logs of fighter jets staying just far enough behind the airliner that crashed in PA to fire missiles, then doing a u-turn and landing at an air force base. There were people on the ground in PA that initially that the plane was smoking and had sections of the body and wing missing when it crashed.

That was initially reported, then hushed too. All of this was on the drudge report, the AP wire and even aired on CNN when it was initially reported, but was never heard again after the first couple reports.

But as other people have said here, Americans are too stupid to know, too impotent to care and/or too lazy to act. That's why I live in Panama.

*edit* By the way, don't even start that "you aren't a patriot", "you're a leftist, liberal..blah blah" with me. I'm a libertarian, former Marine Sgt. who's just fed up with Americans allowing our "elected" officials to buttfuck us while we're focused on Oprah and Reality TV. Wake up, you sheeple.

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Conspiracy theorists crack me right up. Although, I will admit its somewhat entertaining at times - to see what vivid imaginations can cook up and how facts can be spun to support the silliness.

Imagine the logic of someone who says, "We're going to pull off a huge, multi-pronged conspiracy on a bright, sunny morning in front of a live and televised global audience."

We've got rockets (not planes) hitting the pentagon, we've got rockets strapped to the underbelly of the planes (with no windows) that hit the WTC towers, we've got UFOs scooting around Manhatten, we've got suspicious 'controlled demolitions' of buildings that allegedly contain top secret floors and massive amounts of diesel fuel(!).

What did I miss?

So much denial.

Fuck porn. I'm goin' in to the tinfoil hat industry.
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The theory of these explosions in the WTC buildings being caused by explosives placed in the building is flawed. The sheer force and pressure of inner floors collapsing before the exterior would cause windows to blow out and appear to be explosions.
that sounds reasonable from a layperson . But engineer's have looked at the video and say it goes against the laws of physics..

Its no smoking gun , and im not claiming it shows anything more than you can see, but the theory those are explosions " is flawed" is not proven so why say it..

Tell me something that makes the theory of explosives "flawedf" ? just because there are 2 possibilities doesnt make one of them flawed.. you have to actually tell us something that makes it flawed..

If the building is falling at free-fall the floors below have no resistance to collapse. if they did it wouldnt have fallen at free-fall it would have been slower than free fall..

Like i said i'm not an engineer and i dont think it proves anything ( the video ) , but i would like some answers and examples from qualified people. we have spent TRILLIONS now on this shit and we cant have a couple engineers explain simple questions ? cmon now who's being naive here ?
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not that anyone cares but heres a little gif i threw together of wtc7 suspicious debris/explosions

its a big gif so let it load..


yeap,and this is really not a good camera angle of it,i've seen one that's very clear
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I loved it when Condi Rice said "I believe the memo was titled 'Bid Laden Detemined To Attack Within The United States.'"

Just had to love it.

But remember, it was just hostorical data. Not a threat or anything, sheesh! :D
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Conspiracy theorists crack me right up. Although, I will admit its somewhat entertaining at times - to see what vivid imaginations can cook up and how facts can be spun to support the silliness.

Imagine the logic of someone who says, "We're going to pull off a huge, multi-pronged conspiracy on a bright, sunny morning in front of a live and televised global audience."

We've got rockets (not planes) hitting the pentagon, we've got rockets strapped to the underbelly of the planes (with no windows) that hit the WTC towers, we've got UFOs scooting around Manhatten, we've got suspicious 'controlled demolitions' of buildings that allegedly contain top secret floors and massive amounts of diesel fuel(!).

What did I miss?

So much denial.

Fuck porn. I'm goin' in to the tinfoil hat industry.
Or we could just bury our heads in the sand and not ask any questions and assume there is no such thing as conspiracy's , everyone loves us and is looking out for our best interests...

Its funny how several of the "alleged" things you claim ARENT ALLEGED.. its plain FACTS..

FACT#1 we know wtc had the mayors command bunker emergency supplies and diesel in it.. thats not "alleged" its common knowledge, its also common knowledge that the building housed SEC documents that were destroyed.

FACT#2 the owner of the building said and i quote " we made the decision to pull the building"


FACT#3 none of these facts actually mean anything by themselves , but claiming they dont exist , shows you dont have enough details to even begin to come up with your own theory..
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you know what's the funniest of all? To see the same people claiming how great US secret agencies are that can achive everything and at the same denying that anyone could create such setup. You have to decide one day.
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People choose their reality.

World-changing events like 9/11 shock people - it disrupts the warm cocoon of their life (that they thought they had figured out). This causes people to force major events into the 'box' that is their life (ie their mind). People cannot imagine things they are ignorant of and can only rationalize and explain events to themselves with the mental constructs of reality they already possess.

So, whether it be religion, conspiracy theories, etc.. people believe these things so they can sleep at night.. to make the chaotic events that go on around them fit into their limited mental scope.
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People choose their reality.

World-changing events like 9/11 shock people - it disrupts the warm cocoon of their life (that they thought they had figured out). This causes people to force major events into the 'box' that is their life (ie their mind). People cannot imagine things they are ignorant of and can only rationalize and explain events to themselves with the mental constructs of reality they already possess.

So, whether it be religion, conspiracy theories, etc.. people believe these things so they can sleep at night.. to make the chaotic events that go on around them fit into their limited mental scope.

i agree with you completely and now i understand why you are so narrow minded regarding these types of events.

you dont like what it really spells out, so you make up your own comfort food and say all is ok in the land of oz....i get it now..ostridge theory


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to sum up wtc7

Controlled demolition EXPERTS spend hundreds of thousand of dollars to pull a building this size down.. hundreds of man hours , planning and carefull timing..

This building came down in nearly free-fall after supposedly catching fire from falling debris , that went through over 10 floors of reinforced concrete steel beams to land in a secured storage of diesel.

well fuck im gonna open up a demolition company that just tosses burning debris onto buildings to demolish them.. simple quick and they appear to collapse in on themselves perfectly..
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:33 AM   #47
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smokey...when you get a chance watch this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ls +the+world
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:35 AM   #48
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the same group who killed the russian czar is behind these attacks

of course most will assume im just crazy about this stuff..but these are the same people who get all their news from CNN

try reading a book

studying voltaire etc....it is all there for you
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:36 AM   #49
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Smokey, it's also been said that the ONLY reason the twin towers came down is because the fire retardant that WOULD have prevented the steel from melting was blown off by the impact of the planes.

So tower 7 presumably didnt have it's retardant blown off since it was not impacted. Or it didnt have the same stuff applied in the first place.

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Old 03-21-2006, 10:44 AM   #50
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The day after 9/11, there was an air traffic controller in Baltimore who mysteriously died of a heart attack (at 30 something) after reporting first to local news, then to national news that he had radar logs of fighter jets staying just far enough behind the airliner that crashed in PA to fire missiles, then doing a u-turn and landing at an air force base. There were people on the ground in PA that initially that the plane was smoking and had sections of the body and wing missing when it crashed.

That was initially reported, then hushed too. All of this was on the drudge report, the AP wire and even aired on CNN when it was initially reported, but was never heard again after the first couple reports.

But as other people have said here, Americans are too stupid to know, too impotent to care and/or too lazy to act. That's why I live in Panama.

*edit* By the way, don't even start that "you aren't a patriot", "you're a leftist, liberal..blah blah" with me. I'm a libertarian, former Marine Sgt. who's just fed up with Americans allowing our "elected" officials to buttfuck us while we're focused on Oprah and Reality TV. Wake up, you sheeple.
I also saw those reports the morning of 9/11 about the fighter jets following the plane in PA and never saw them again...

On a side note i live about an hour from Sarasota,FL...a good friend of mine had a child in the school that Bush was at that morning...She called me freaking out that the the schhols were being evacuated and that she had to go pick her kid up...Then she told me that the schools were being evacuated because a stolen "suspicious" plane had been downed at the Sarasota/Bradenton International Airtport...I turned on the local news and sure enough i saw two reports on the plane being "forced down"...No video of it just reports...So did quite a few people i know who were watching the news that morning...Those were the only reports i saw and never heard about it again anywhere...

I am also not a conspiracy theorist and very far from left wing...
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