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  • imageman
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2003
    • 1938
    #51

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      • jjjay
        Registered User
        • Jun 2005
        • 1813
        #52
        fiddy

        that's all I have to say

        carry on

        edit: fuck it, i missed
        Last edited by jjjay; 03-09-2006, 08:17 AM.

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          • SilentKnight
            Megan Fox's fluffer
            • Oct 2005
            • 24818
            #53
            I was wonderin' how long before Imageman would get around to postin' my favorite iBalls logo.

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              • willow
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2001
                • 131
                #54
                Originally posted by SilentKnight
                Here's

                Go invest in a fucking clue.
                Just to think, if you'd picked a better billing company you'd have more than 2 cents to give away.

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                  • SilentKnight
                    Megan Fox's fluffer
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 24818
                    #55
                    Originally posted by willow
                    Just to think, if you'd picked a better billing company you'd have more than 2 cents to give away.
                    So...you're insinuating its the fault of iBill clients who "picked them" - that we all got ripped off?

                    As for a "better billing company" - many others here on GFY will agree that iBill was quite good for many years...up until Sept/'04.

                    Fact of the matter is - we're among the very lucky few who were paid in full - long after Sept/'04. But not before they bounced a large cheque which caused us further delay and headaches.

                    But you can keep extolling the virtues of iBall, dispensing your revisionist history and erroneous and misinformed rhetoric. Those of us who have been there/done that and have kept up with current events know the score.

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                      • MacDaddyPlaya
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 1785
                        #56
                        Originally posted by willow
                        Just to think, if you'd picked a better billing company you'd have more than 2 cents to give away.
                        Can't blame the victim for the crime.
                        Sigless

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                          • imageman
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 1938
                            #57
                            You did a great job on the graphics so i can not let that go to waste
                            (See the other Iballs threads for more logos!!!!)

                            Originally posted by SilentKnight
                            I was wonderin' how long before Imageman would get around to postin' my favorite iBalls logo.

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                              • willow
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2001
                                • 131
                                #58
                                Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                So...you're insinuating its the fault of iBill clients who "picked them" - that we all got ripped off?

                                As for a "better billing company" - many others here on GFY will agree that iBill was quite good for many years...up until Sept/'04.

                                Fact of the matter is - we're among the very lucky few who were paid in full - long after Sept/'04. But not before they bounced a large cheque which caused us further delay and headaches.

                                But you can keep extolling the virtues of iBall, dispensing your revisionist history and erroneous and misinformed rhetoric. Those of us who have been there/done that and have kept up with current events know the score.
                                Yeah, it's your fault you picked a scamming piece o' crap company and didn't do your homework. Anyone who doesn't understand what 'high risk' processing means deserves everything they get. You are lucky you got anything at all.

                                'Quite Good'...Really? The only thing you could ever say about them is that they always paid on time, and now not even that. You give them more praise than I ever did.

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                                  • SilentKnight
                                    Megan Fox's fluffer
                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 24818
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by willow
                                    Yeah, it's your fault you picked a scamming piece o' crap company and didn't do your homework. Anyone who doesn't understand what 'high risk' processing means deserves everything they get. You are lucky you got anything at all.
                                    Your opinion says all we need to know about you.

                                    Originally posted by willow
                                    'Quite Good'...Really? The only thing you could ever say about them is that they always paid on time, and now not even that. You give them more praise than I ever did.
                                    Yep...tons of 'praise'. Look at the top of this page and see more graphic 'praise'. Then go search previous iBall threads and see how much more 'praise' I've bestowed on them in the past six months.

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                                      • willow
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 131
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by MacDaddyPlaya
                                        Can't blame the victim for the crime.
                                        But when the icebergs are on the horizon, most sensible people would launch a liferaft. Too many people here kept sending them business despite the warning signs. I have little sympathy for that.

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                                          • willow
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2001
                                            • 131
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                            Your opinion says all we need to know about you.
                                            So we don't like each other, fair enough.

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                                              • CDSmith
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • May 2001
                                                • 51460
                                                #62
                                                Was wondering when the "former employees" would come on here disclosing the 'real truth' and arguing amongst themselves about where the 'real blame lies".

                                                I'm surprised it took this long.


                                                Personally I don't think I would want to tell anyone if I was one of Ibill's former employees. These days I think most who used to process with them and their affiliates (let's not forget the affiliates) see all who were or are involved with Ibill as highly suspect. If that's the case (and I think that it is) I can't say as I blame them. I'm surprised people haven't gone to jail over this mess yet.

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                                                  • captainjapan.
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                    • 90
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by mackey
                                                    I find it kinda interesting that a lot of former ibill employees are now posting up.
                                                    someone had to have the balls to speak the truth...

                                                    i dig how all these segpay/former iballs employees are coming out and defending their beloved company. facts are facts and I do know what I'm talking about.

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                                                      • SilentKnight
                                                        Megan Fox's fluffer
                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                        • 24818
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by willow
                                                        But when the icebergs are on the horizon, most sensible people would launch a liferaft.
                                                        Do you think the ship stops on a dime when the iceberg looms?

                                                        And how is it that you're so aware of what the various webmasters did and didn't do regarding redundancy plans in advance of Sept/'04?

                                                        You imply we all should have woke up one morning and decided to go with another processor by lunch time. Do you know anything about recur billing and the momentum of membership-based revenue?

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                                                          • CDSmith
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • May 2001
                                                            • 51460
                                                            #65
                                                            All I know is, as an affiliate of many programs, when I see one processing with Ibill or any processor (segpay) affiliated in any way with Ibill, I run the other way, period.

                                                            Hopefully some of you so-called 'former' employees can find work at companies who don't cheat people. Seriously, how anyone or any company can take full payment on signups and then neglect to pay their clients/affiliates is beyond me. It has happened in this industry before with design brokers not paying their designers their commissions, but no matter where it happens it always smacks (to me anyway) of utter stupidity and boneheaded mismanagement AND terminably short-sighted thinking.

                                                            Too bad cops are so into their own mismanagement of resources instead of nailing real criminals like those who think it's okay to keep money that isn't theirs.
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                                                              • webspider
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2001
                                                                • 340
                                                                #66
                                                                Bump this.... up and to hell.
                                                                Weird Stuff

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                                                                  • Webby
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 14956
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by webspider
                                                                    Bump this.... up and to hell.
                                                                    Woz that you say?
                                                                    XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                      • MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Nov 2004
                                                                        • 1785
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                        Was wondering when the "former employees" would come on here disclosing the 'real truth' and arguing amongst themselves about where the 'real blame lies".

                                                                        I'm surprised it took this long.


                                                                        Personally I don't think I would want to tell anyone if I was one of Ibill's former employees. These days I think most who used to process with them and their affiliates (let's not forget the affiliates) see all who were or are involved with Ibill as highly suspect. If that's the case (and I think that it is) I can't say as I blame them. I'm surprised people haven't gone to jail over this mess yet.

                                                                        Carry on.
                                                                        I have been on here for quite sometime telling the truth about what happened. I have NO SHAME in telling people I used to work at iBill. I was there early on and I know alot of people made alot of money with iBill.

                                                                        Like 95% of the people at iBill, I was not in an executive level position and had nothing to do with any of the decisions that were made. I was not in a client facing position and never lied, stole, or cheated a soul. When I got totally fed up with the bullshit, I quit.

                                                                        You are anyone else want to hold that against me, thats your choice. It just shows me how shallow and ignorant you are and that you would not be someone I would want to be involved with either.
                                                                        Sigless

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                                                                          • SilentKnight
                                                                            Megan Fox's fluffer
                                                                            • Oct 2005
                                                                            • 24818
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                            I have been on here for quite sometime telling the truth about what happened. I have NO SHAME in telling people I used to work at iBill. I was there early on and I know alot of people made alot of money with iBill.

                                                                            Like 95% of the people at iBill, I was not in an executive level position and had nothing to do with any of the decisions that were made. I was not in a client facing position and never lied, stole, or cheated a soul. When I got totally fed up with the bullshit, I quit.

                                                                            You are anyone else want to hold that against me, thats your choice. It just shows me how shallow and ignorant you are and that you would not be someone I would want to be involved with either.
                                                                            Well said.

                                                                            If anything, your former insider input and insight has been interesting and useful over the last while. Rather than chastise you...others should be more appreciative that you're willing to share your experiences and what you know about iBull.

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                                                                              • MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Nov 2004
                                                                                • 1785
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                                                Well said.

                                                                                If anything, your former insider input and insight has been interesting and useful over the last while. Rather than chastise you...others should be more appreciative that you're willing to share your experiences and what you know about iBull.
                                                                                Thanks, I appreciate that. Shows the type of person you are, and since I believe in Karma, that is why you got paid in full
                                                                                Sigless

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                                                                                  • CDSmith
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                    • 51460
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                                    I have been on here for quite sometime telling the truth about what happened. I have NO SHAME in telling people I used to work at iBill. I was there early on and I know alot of people made alot of money with iBill.

                                                                                    Like 95% of the people at iBill, I was not in an executive level position and had nothing to do with any of the decisions that were made. I was not in a client facing position and never lied, stole, or cheated a soul. When I got totally fed up with the bullshit, I quit.

                                                                                    You are anyone else want to hold that against me, thats your choice. It just shows me how shallow and ignorant you are and that you would not be someone I would want to be involved with either.
                                                                                    Is that so?

                                                                                    Acting like there's some surprise that there is some animosity and anger out there over this issue is what's ignorant my friend. Think about it. It's also a form of shallow thinking to get defensive over what I said. It in fact wouldn't surprise me one bit to find that some people might hold ibill and ANYONE affiliated with them as suspect.

                                                                                    All I said was that personally I would not want it known if I had been employed by them, that's all. It's your right to take exception to that of course, but I think you're being a tad oversensitive about it. If you're so innocent then why the need to get all defensive?
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                                                                                      • CDSmith
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                        • 51460
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                                                        Well said.

                                                                                        If anything, your former insider input and insight has been interesting and useful over the last while. Rather than chastise you...others should be more appreciative that you're willing to share your experiences and what you know about iBull.
                                                                                        Problem being.... whose word to trust?

                                                                                        There seems to be conflicting stories from several former employees.

                                                                                        Macdadplayadude - no insult was meant to you directly.
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                                                                                          • 363R
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                            • 217
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                                            I don't know who you are but you have NO idea what you are talking about regarding this one. As a former iBill employee myself, one that was there for the rise and the fall, I know the REAL deal. Cathy had nothing to do with what happened at the end. You don't know shit. Cathy was let go when Intercept took over and brought their management team. She came back at the very end, after the damage was done to try and save a sinking ship.

                                                                                            The only other management person at SegPay is Chris Williams, who also had nothing to do with the mismanagement of iBill. In fact, he was only involved with iBill EU.

                                                                                            Before you spew you fucking bullshit, know what the fuck you are talking about. Or at least make sure there isn't someone else who actually does know the facts.
                                                                                            This man speaks the truth.

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                                                                                              • MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Nov 2004
                                                                                                • 1785
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                                Is that so?

                                                                                                Acting like there's some surprise that there is some animosity and anger out there over this issue is what's ignorant my friend. Think about it. It's also a form of shallow thinking to get defensive over what I said. It in fact wouldn't surprise me one bit to find that some people might hold ibill and ANYONE affiliated with them as suspect.

                                                                                                All I said was that personally I would not want it known if I had been employed by them, that's all. It's your right to take exception to that of course, but I think you're being a tad oversensitive about it. If you're so innocent then why the need to get all defensive?
                                                                                                CD, I'm not getting defensive and I have never come on here and posted things I couldn't back up with evidence. There is no surprise at the animosity over this issue and I never showed surprise. In fact, I have as much animosity over this as anyone.

                                                                                                What you need to understand and realize is that there was over 300 people at iBill. Most of them worked their asses off for clients and as a result of that hard work alot of people made a lot of money. Out of the 300 employees, maybe a handful had any authority in making decisions at the level that impacted what happened. To hold anyone who worked there, regardless of what they did suspect is what is ignorant to me friend.
                                                                                                Sigless

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                                                                                                  • MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                                                    • 1785
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by 363R
                                                                                                    This man speaks the truth.
                                                                                                    Thanks, I have always tried to let the facts be known.
                                                                                                    Sigless

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                                                                                                      • CDSmith
                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                                        • 51460
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                                                        CD, I'm not getting defensive and I have never come on here and posted things I couldn't back up with evidence. There is no surprise at the animosity over this issue and I never showed surprise. In fact, I have as much animosity over this as anyone.

                                                                                                        What you need to understand and realize is that there was over 300 people at iBill. Most of them worked their asses off for clients and as a result of that hard work alot of people made a lot of money. Out of the 300 employees, maybe a handful had any authority in making decisions at the level that impacted what happened. To hold anyone who worked there, regardless of what they did suspect is what is ignorant to me friend.
                                                                                                        My comment about people needing to go to jail wasn't directed at employees of ibill. Apologies, I should have made that clearer in my post.


                                                                                                        Also, I never said I personally felt that way, I only said I wouldn't be surprised if some people did. When there is this much money on the line, where so many are owed, many whose lives and businesses were hurt badly or downright ruined over it.... well, there's bound to be some ill feelings over all things ibill. That's pretty much all I meant.

                                                                                                        In light of that your need to not only set things straight where you are concerned but also hit back at me struck me as... odd.
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                                                                                                          • MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                                                                            • 1785
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                                            My comment about people needing to go to jail wasn't directed at employees of ibill. Apologies, I should have made that clearer in my post.


                                                                                                            Also, I never said I personally felt that way, I only said I wouldn't be surprised if some people did. When there is this much money on the line, where so many are owed, many whose lives and businesses were hurt badly or downright ruined over it.... well, there's bound to be some ill feelings over all things ibill. That's pretty much all I meant.

                                                                                                            In light of that your need to not only set things straight where you are concerned but also hit back at me struck me as... odd.
                                                                                                            No worries, didn't mean to hit back at you, just trying to set the record straight.
                                                                                                            Sigless

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                                                                                                              • CDSmith
                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                                • 51460
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                                                                No worries, didn't mean to hit back at you, just trying to set the record straight.
                                                                                                                I hope you can also respect those in my position. It is difficult to judge just who is being on the level and factual and who is being spiteful and spreading misinformation.... and whose posts are marbled with a bit of both.

                                                                                                                It's hard to know what or who to believe in cases like this.

                                                                                                                The ongoing story is interesting to watch though.
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                                                                                                                  • Pornwolf
                                                                                                                    Drunk and Unruly
                                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                    • 22712
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    I just want to be a part of history.


                                                                                                                    Carry on.
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                                                                                                                    Webair, bitches.

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                                                                                                                      • MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                        • 1785
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                                                        I hope you can also respect those in my position. It is difficult to judge just who is being on the level and factual and who is being spiteful and spreading misinformation.... and whose posts are marbled with a bit of both.

                                                                                                                        It's hard to know what or who to believe in cases like this.

                                                                                                                        The ongoing story is interesting to watch though.
                                                                                                                        I can repect your position. Like I said, I never post shit that isn't factual and can't be backed up by data and evidence. The point of my posts have always been to state the facts and clear up the bullshit. I have absolutely no personal agenda in all this.
                                                                                                                        Sigless

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                                                                                                                          • Kimmykim
                                                                                                                            bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                            • 16015
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Anyone who thinks that Cathy B is responsible for all the crap that happened at IBill probably thinks thinks that JR was never shot and that Bobby really did die.

                                                                                                                            Look at who was running the show when the downhill slide started picking up steam. MCI was one big warmup, lol...

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                                                                                                                              • Scottie Apples
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                • 463
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by debsdeepthroat
                                                                                                                                fact is ibill still owes alot of people money...I would work with any company that hires ANY former ibill employees....The sales men lie...secretarys lie....janitors prolly lie too
                                                                                                                                They all belong in one place together
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                                                                                                                                  • Gumball
                                                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                    • 34
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    I agree, blame iBill from sep 04, but why blame the guys that bought it? makes no sence to me. they paid out big money on old fuck ups caused by past owners. If you dont blame Kathy (and I don't) why blame the new guys trying to save it??? also check out AVNONLINE.com for news story, very interesting...seems like FBI has already been there

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                                                                                                                                      • sixxxthsense
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                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                        • 2421
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        one thing thats still amazing is that they are still allowed to run their fucking shit? your country is fucked up!

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                                                                                                                                          • Gumball
                                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                            • 34
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Canada=USAlight....HEY!

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                                                                                                                                              • MacDaddyPlaya
                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                                • 1785
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Gumball
                                                                                                                                                I agree, blame iBill from sep 04, but why blame the guys that bought it? makes no sence to me. they paid out big money on old fuck ups caused by past owners. If you dont blame Kathy (and I don't) why blame the new guys trying to save it??? also check out AVNONLINE.com for news story, very interesting...seems like FBI has already been there
                                                                                                                                                You are a complete FUCKTARD. For the 10,000th time, THERE ARE NO NEW OWNERS AT IBILL. The new guys who are trying to save it are the same old guys who fucked it all up.
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                                                                                                                                                  • ForteCash
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                                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2006
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                                                                                                                                                    #87
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                                                                                                                                                      • DAVESNOTHERE
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                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                                                        • 37
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        bump for clipman!

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                                                                                                                                                          • Manowar
                                                                                                                                                            jellyfish  
                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                            • 71528
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Very interesting

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                                                                                                                                                              • Kjell
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                                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 32
                                                                                                                                                                #90
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Gaybucks
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                                                                                                                                                                    • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                    • 451
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    This may have been covered elsewhere, but Ibill apparently just sold its entire processing operation (including webmasters private information, all customer information, rebilling info, etc) to Etelegate, an EU-based company that, among other things, has exhorbitant fees ($1.99/mo PROCESSING fee per subscriber renewal, on top of the discount rate and other charges, just for starters...)

                                                                                                                                                                    Several webmasters over at GayWideWebmasters have managed to get in touch and arrange cancellation of all the rebills, but it's another disaster waiting to happen.

                                                                                                                                                                    And, of course, neither Etelegate nor Ibill notified their webmasters about the arrangemement.
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                                                                                                                                                                      • pornguy
                                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                        • 62912
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        We tried to sign up with them years ago, and after two weeks of chasing them on the phone, they could not get things set up, So we went to ccbill. And thank fucking god.
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                            • 32492
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            i totally feel that if my rep gave me a heads up when they knew it was pretty much done i'd have had my money. But I was told the money was gone and thats it... when in fact i know of 10-15 who got paid in full.

                                                                                                                                                                            I feel i was let down. I think any rep that didnt tell their clients to sue after week 1 did their clients a disservice. I dont know about you, but trusting anyone over at i bill or any of the ibill jr's just aint going to happen for me.
                                                                                                                                                                            Duke

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                                                                                                                                                                              • Well Dunn
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                • 1026
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                They actualy have a pennystock? I know the SEC doesnt care much for that end of the market, but damn, how can they let people invest into a shit storm like ibill.
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • fl_prn_str
                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 5736
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    will the ibill story ever die? I fell the pain of those they fucked over....but its just like crying over spilled milk anymore......its time to face facts....your fucked and you will never get your $$$$

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Webby
                                                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 14956
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Gaybucks
                                                                                                                                                                                        This may have been covered elsewhere, but Ibill apparently just sold its entire processing operation (including webmasters private information, all customer information, rebilling info, etc) to Etelegate, an EU-based company that, among other things, has exhorbitant fees ($1.99/mo PROCESSING fee per subscriber renewal, on top of the discount rate and other charges, just for starters...)

                                                                                                                                                                                        Several webmasters over at GayWideWebmasters have managed to get in touch and arrange cancellation of all the rebills, but it's another disaster waiting to happen.

                                                                                                                                                                                        And, of course, neither Etelegate nor Ibill notified their webmasters about the arrangemement.
                                                                                                                                                                                        You think??

                                                                                                                                                                                        You may want to check out corp paperwork shuffling lately and see what friends of friends own eTelegate.

                                                                                                                                                                                        It saves postage when ya just have to move corp docs from one side of the desk to the other.
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Booger
                                                                                                                                                                                            At least I make a living at this
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 621
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Fuck Ibill...bump

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • gooddomains
                                                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 10127
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                there is no real deal

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