Grizzly Man... a disturbing portrayal of a cowardly, bipolar, narcisstic....

[sperbonzo]

....self-hating closet homosexual with a death wish.


I was totally misled by the trailers. This wasn't a nature film, it was like watching a human train wreck occuring on film.

I was nauseated.

[MrIzzz]

were you hoping for a hairy homosexual male?

[sperbonzo]

The idiot goes and gets his girlfriend killed by bears....


....meanwhile, he portrays himself as a brave eco-warrior, and the one chance that he has to stop some people that are throwing rocks at a bear (which is Treadwells own fault since he habituated them to humans), the guy cowers in the bushes and does nothing to stop them.

I WANT MY TWO HOURS BACK!!!

I was expecting an amazing documentary with footage about Grizzlys, and all they gave us was this dreck?

*spit*

[tony286]

so that job as a social worker never panned out huh lol

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by MrIzzz

were you hoping for a hairy homosexual male?

I leave those to you Izzy.

[MrIzzz]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I leave those to you Izzy.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by tony404

so that job as a social worker never panned out huh lol

WHAAAAAAAAAT???

Did that come out as too harsh?





It's really just that the movie proports to be one thing, and it's something else altogether.

[CuriousToyBoy]

Originally Posted by MrIzzz

were you hoping for a hairy homosexual male?

Anyone who posts ANY picture of me at this reference risks a death WORSE than that in the movie.

He he

BTW, I agree Michael, it sucked.

[The Truth Hurts]

i tried watching that movie the other day....
didn't make it all the way through though..
i got to where the guy was giving the tour of where it happened.. up to where he was holding the bear bone saying that was all that was left of it.... then had to leave... wonder if it'll be on again to finish..

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

Anyone who posts ANY picture of me at this reference risks a death WORSE than that in the movie.

[sperbonzo]

And HEY Toy Boy! Turn on your damn phone!

[CuriousToyBoy]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

And HEY Toy Boy! Turn on your damn phone!

As you discovered, the other number is on.

[lazycash]

Yeah, the movie was disappointing and as much as I tried to see the guy as some kind of nature warrior, he just kept coming off as some nutcase who played with death. I do believe he had developed some connection with some of the bears and had some great video footage of their behavior, but thats about it.

[BV]

on an unrelated note, did anyone see the old Grizzly Adams dude on either HBO's Real Sex or that whorehouse show? I think his real name is Dan Haggerty maybe? That set me back, lol

[sacX]

I enjoyed it. The director/narator Werner Herzog is a complete nutcase too.

[uno]

I was hoping they would show at least part of the mauling. Very disappointed when they didn't.

[xclusive]

Dude what fucked in the head shitty he had to drag his girl into it.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by sacX

I enjoyed it. The director/narator Werner Herzog is a complete nutcase too.

I just don't get the reviews.... Crap like:

"A rich, well-crafted documentary that offers a rare glimpse at someone who respected Mother Nature but refused to live by her rules."

Did the reviewer watch the same damn movie??

Dude what fucked in the head shitty he had to drag his girl into it.

exactly. I'm really sorry that I wasted time watching it.

[CaptainHowdy]

Ouch... NO SPOILERS PLEASE!!!

[Raven]

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

Anyone who posts ANY picture of me at this reference risks a death WORSE than that in the movie.

He he

BTW, I agree Michael, it sucked.

I'll flirt with death.

[Raven]

Really living dangerously now.

[Raven]

And, finally, sealing my fate:

[CuriousToyBoy]

SOOOOO lucky I love you Raven.

;-)

[american pervert]

the dude got eaten at the end, what more could you want?

[Tempest]

It was a fantastic movie and deserved all the high ratings it received... It's much more than just what it purports to be.

[SmokeyTheBear]

dont mess with a bear

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by xclusive

Dude what fucked in the head shitty he had to drag his girl into it.

I almost thought the same thing.. Except that she had gone along each of the previous 3 years, and she could have run away and try to save herself and yet she didn't.

[SmokeyTheBear]

unless you have a big gun

[Pipeline Q]

is that bear attack photo real or screen cap from a movie?

[tristan_D]

I almost threw up from the pic

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Pipeline Q

is that bear attack photo real or screen cap from a movie?

its real but not the actual attack its a different bear that attacked a hiker and his companion.. he put 6 bullets in the bear trying to stop it..

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by tristan_D

I almost threw up from the pic

heh sorry i figured if you watched the movie then you were prob prepared ( or want ) to see the result..

there is some actual photo's around of the attack..

[SmokeyTheBear]

im pretty sure this is the pics of the attack
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/campe...p_03_2005.html

[Bansheelinks]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

im pretty sure this is the pics of the attack
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/campe...p_03_2005.html

you'd be wrong. those pics are not of the Tim Treadwell attack.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Bansheelinks

you'd be wrong. those pics are not of the Tim Treadwell attack.

i didnt say for sure it just looked like the same sleeping bag from the movie , and they are fairly recent pics

[Bansheelinks]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i didnt say for sure it just looked like the same sleeping bag from the movie , and they are fairly recent pics

well they are not pics of the treadwell attack, but your point is well taken of course; you do not mess with bears. unfortunately, treadwell learned a fatal lesson but it was only a matter of time for him. its amazing he lasted as long as he did but his out of control personality simply meant he couldn't tear himself away from the bears, and his false sense of security did him in. herzog's commentary on the reality of treadwell's situation, & treadwell's reckless disregard for this reality, was correct. the movie had great insight into this.

[alec]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

dont mess with a bear

Wtf?!

Is that real?

[xclusive]

http://mountainsurvival.com/news_articles/eaten.html

tells a little about the pic and

http://www.yellowstone-bearman.com/Tim_Treadwell.html

is a pretty good read on the treadwell case.

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

dont mess with a bear

Damn - That guy needed to shave his pubes real bad.

[The Duck]

Treadwell: 'Get out here. I'm getting killed'

MAULING: Sound of bear attack that killed two was captured by video camera.

By CRAIG MEDRED
Anchorage Daily News

Published: October 9, 2003
Last Modified: October 10, 2003 at 03:16 AM

Among the last words Timothy Treadwell uttered to his girlfriend before a bear killed and partially ate both of them were these:

"Get out here. I'm getting killed.''

Words caught on a tape recording of the attack also reveal Treadwell's girlfriend, Amie Huguenard, shouting at him to play dead, then encouraging him to fight back.

Alaska State Troopers report that is what they heard on a videotape recovered Monday at the scene of a bear mauling in Katmai National Park and Preserve. The tape was in a camera found near the bear-buried remains of Treadwell, 46, and Huguenard, 37.

Troopers spokesman Greg Wilkinson said there are no pictures on the tape, leading troopers to believe the attack might have happened while the camera was stuffed in a duffle bag or during the dark of night. Treadwell had talked to an associate in Malibu, Calif., by satellite phone around noon Sunday. He mentioned no problems with any bears.

The remains of the Southern Californians who periodically came to Alaska to live intimately with the bears were found the next day. A large but scrawny old bear with bad teeth that a pilot had seen sitting on the brush and dirt pulled over the bodies was shot and killed by National Park Service rangers at the scene after it charged them.

Troopers Wednesday refused requests to release the audiotape, but said it convinced them the two people had been killed by a bear. Speculation about whether a bear had actually done the killing had been fueled by Treadwell's oft-stated but unsubstantiated claim that he spent summers at Katmai to protect the bears from poachers and sport hunters.

"I'm their lifeguard,'' he told a reporter for The Davis (Calif.) Enterprise in 1999. "I'm there to keep the poachers and sport hunters away. I'm much more likely to be killed by an angry sport hunter than a bear.''

The Kaflia Bay area of Alaska's Gulf Coast -- where Treadwell spent most of his time in the state -- has long been closed to sport hunters, and Katmai rangers said there is no history of poachers killing bears in the area.

When bears die, they are usually killed by other brown bears, said park superintendent Deb Liggett, noting that 90 percent of the cubs each year are killed, and often eaten, by other brown bears. Adult bears sometimes kill each other there, too.

In this case, Wilkinson said, troopers are confident a bear was also responsible for killing the Malibu couple. Troopers are also convinced, he added, that the bear seen feeding on their bodies was the bear killed by Park Service rangers. There is no way, however, of knowing whether that bear or another shot by troopers at the scene did the actual killing.

The tape full of screams and rustling sounds details the attack, Wilkinson said, but adds little to explain exactly what happened or why. The tape, he said, lasts about three minutes. Scratching and dragging noises on it have led troopers to believe Treadwell might have been wearing a body mike when the attack began.

After Treadwell calls for help, Wilkinson said, Huguenard can be heard shouting "play dead.'' That is the recommended response to being grabbed by a brown or grizzly bear, but authorities stress the idea of playing dead should be abandoned if the bear continues to press the attack.

On the tape, shortly after the warning to "play dead,'' Wilkinson said, "Huguenard is heard to scream "fight back.'' Treadwell later yells "hit him with a pan,'' Wilkinson said.

After that, the tape goes dead. Because there are no pictures, troopers believe it is most likely the bear came in the night. The tent in which Treadwell and Huguenard had been camping showed no signs of being ripped open by a bear trying to attack people inside, but a friend of Treadwell's said it was common for him to leave the tent in the dark to confront bears that approached his camp.

"His way of operating was to get out of the tent immediately when he heard a bear around,'' Juneau filmmaker Joel Bennett said Wednesday. "He subscribed to the theory that the worst thing you could do was stay in the tent."

Bennett knew the flamboyant Treadwell well. Only two weeks before Treadwell's death they had spent weeks on Kodiak Island working on a Disney film about bears.

"You probably know that I've done three full-length films with him,'' Bennett said. "There's no question he had a remarkable repertoire with bears and had a remarkable ability for them to tolerate him ... (but) just so people don't get the wrong idea, Tim definitely knew there were bears out there that were bad medicine.

"This incident sounds to me like it had nothing to do with his work during the day to look at bears or photograph bears. It was a campsite situation.''

Dozens of scientists, bear guides and outdoor authorities who have spent their lives around Alaska's bruins have criticized Treadwell's daytime activities. The Californian had a seemingly overwhelming need to get close to bears.

"He was a strange dude,'' said Joe Darminio, a former guide at the Newhalen Lodge who used to take bear-viewing tourists to meet Treadwell. Many of the tourists, Darminio added, recognized Treadwell from television or his book, "Among Grizzlies -- Living with Wild Bears in Alaska.''

Opinions among the tourists were split on whether Treadwell's bear-stalking antics were crazy, but Darminio said there was agreement the blond Californian in the black Carhartt's with the bandana tied around his head like a pirate was entertaining.

It was hard to avoid being shocked or impressed by the fearless way he eased up to within feet of some of the most powerful predators on the continent. Treadwell said he could calm them by talking in his high-pitched sing-song voice and tell from their body language whether they posed any threat.

"He really was a Dian Fossey in that way,'' Bennett said. "She could have been killed by one swipe of a gorilla at any time. Dian Fossey got close to the gorillas. She touched them. Timmy did not encourage other people to do this. He says over and over in his films, 'Do not do this. Do not copy me.' It's obviously not something people should do, but it's something that he did."

Huguenard was exposed to Treadwell's daring antics at a grizzly bear presentation in Boulder, Colo. A graduate of the University of Alabama at Birmingham School of Medicine with a degree in molecular biology from the University of Colorado in Boulder, she knew trying to get close to brown bears was dangerous, but went along with Treadwell anyway.

"It was part of her life,'' sister Kathie Stowell told The Times' newspaper in their old hometown of Valparaiso, Ind. "They had a passion and that overrode everything.

"She definitely died, according to her, in the most beautiful, pristine place on earth.''

Reporter Elizabeth Manning contributed to this story. Daily News outdoor editor Craig Medred can be reached at [email protected].

[com]

This is why I always carry my .40 with several full clips and loose ammo on any and all hikes.

Ranger Ellis states that he turned and "saw an adult bear moving toward the group about 20 feet away". All four begin yelling in hopes that the bear would see them and move away. Ranger Ellis then states that he "perceived that the bear was well aware of their presence and was stalking them". Ranger Ellis, armed with a 40 cal. handgun begins to fire at about the same time rangers Gilliland and Dalrymple, who were each armed with 12 gauge shotguns loaded with slugs, also begin to shoot at the bear.

[xclusive]

http://media.putfile.com/Tim-Treadwell-bear-attack

audio of the attack

[Raven]

Ugh, those grizzly pics are nasty.....I watched about five minutes of it and thought, this is stupid....bears are nasty. Time to go.

Ain't nuthin' worth dyin' over.

[Bansheelinks]

Originally Posted by xclusive

http://media.putfile.com/Tim-Treadwell-bear-attack

audio of the attack

literally eaten alive

[Tom_PM]

That "movie" was horrible, that pic is fucked up, and that audio file is very disturbing.

[Martin]

yeah i watched that lastnight.. what a fruit cake..

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

Timmy was a fucked up fruit cake.. I only wish they would have shown more bear and alaska footage than Timmys pyschosis. I neither hated it nor liked it in its entirety..I just enjoyed the bear footage.

[uno]

I hear there is an uncensored version with the audio and the aftermath.

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by xclusive

http://media.putfile.com/Tim-Treadwell-bear-attack

audio of the attack

I suspect that's a fake. The audio is with one of his ex girlsfriends who has yet to even listen to it. So unless one of the investigators made a copy of it, its' doubtful it's made it's way out on the net. It also doesn't seem to match up all that well with what has been outlined that goes on for 6 minutes in the real tape.

[Manowar]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

dont mess with a bear