1 In 20 Workers In U.S. Is Illegal?

[Greg B]

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/07/D8G6U2KO8.html

Amazing.

[Manowar]

damn, had no idea it was that high

[seven]

Originally Posted by Greg B

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/07/D8G6U2KO8.html

Amazing.

send the wetbags back I say.. wait a min.. u ain't a wetbag too now are you? j/k

[After Shock Media]

Camarota said there would be plenty of Americans willing to accept jobs done by illegal immigrants if they paid adequate wages and benefits.

That line just takes the cake.
I wonder what "adequate wages & benefits" would be required to have them pick artichokes or tomatoes twelve plus hours a day. I am guessing it would be slightly more than a few bucks a bushel.

Seriously what agricultural jobs have benefits? Anyone ready for 22.00 a pound tomatoes or 5.00 heads of lettuce.

[Z]

Immigrant labor and outsourcing is the only thing that has kept America's economy from imploding for the last 10 years. The tech boom was great and the real estate bubble made a lot of people a lot of money, but both of them were inflated imaginary money made possible by the hard work of brown people world-wide.

Americans are fat, lazy and under-educated and unfortunately...it's going to catch up with us some day.

[GatorB]

Ok 5% of the US work force is illegal and ironically that is also the umemployment rate. Hmmmmmmmmm.

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Ok 5% of the US work force is illegal and ironically that is also the umemployment rate. Hmmmmmmmmm.

Well I guess that just about sums it up!

The low wages for illegals reminds me of the farmworker's strikes of the 70's. Ceaser Chavez fought hard for their rights. People were being treated like slaves. I know because I did a book report in high school on it that was so thorough it was used by the Farmworkers Union, several newspapers and the government. Got a job in newspapers due to that report and I was a kid!

If prices for produce shot up people would starve. Prices across the board would shoot up. The gap tween rich and poor would be so wide it would make the days of serfdom seem like the roaring 20's.

We're teetering on that quantum leap. It's gonna happen. Sooner or later UNLESS a breakthrough in energy or medicine takes place. Stem cell research and alternate energy solutions are here but being blocked. Reason being is that if curing ills is cheap and easy and spendable income can't be absorbed by high price fuels the rich would not see a gain. That's untrue as the rich would see those gains in the consumption of goods and services as more spendable income was available. Problem is the controlling infrastructure works at a procedure where your income is automatically consumed by high energy and medical costs so you CAN'T get ahead. The powers that be don't want the competition.

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by johnafacade

Americans are fat, lazy and under-educated and unfortunately...it's going to catch up with us some day.

fat - yes

lazy - no fucking way

under-educated - yes and no, they have the best professionals, so if you're treated by an Amercian doctor you can rest assured that you're in good hands, if you ask that very same doctor what is the square root of 16 he'll probably need Pentium 6 and a week time to give you the correct answer

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Camarota said there would be plenty of Americans willing to accept jobs done by illegal immigrants if they paid adequate wages and benefits.

That line just takes the cake.
I wonder what "adequate wages & benefits" would be required to have them pick artichokes or tomatoes twelve plus hours a day. I am guessing it would be slightly more than a few bucks a bushel.

Seriously what agricultural jobs have benefits? Anyone ready for 22.00 a pound tomatoes or 5.00 heads of lettuce.

Ok so why not go back to having slavery so you can buy cheap tomatoes? Maybe the benefits your friends and family have at work should be cut. I'm sure those benefits are costing ME money in some way. Also their pay should be cut.

By the way if tomatoes were $22 a pound I'd go to wal-mart buy some seeds and grow my own. Then I'd take the excess and sell them at the farmers market. See it's called the free market and peole aren't going to pay those prices for food so they can't charge those prices.

[jade_dragon]

Gator is right the market will only bear what the market will bear. When the price gets so high that people will not pay it, it comes down at the profit level for the producer, someone else does it for cheaper and undercuts or the market completely dies off.

Gator also makes a great point about being self sufficient and controlling the part of the market you feed into. Grow your own if you want tomatoes that bad or just do not eat them untill the market gets back to a level that you are comfortable with.

I have no issues with browns coming in and taking low paying jobs to produce goods that I want to pay low prices for. This is a trickle down economy on the micro level. Producers make profit and then spend said profit on consumables spreading the money to others. They likewise give that money to their work force so they can have a smaller peice of the pie and some of it goes to the government in the form of taxes. On a macro level globalized economics deal with outsourcing and insourcing but still have the benifit of lowered production cost for producers who will put that money back into the micro localized economy.

Fair wages are minimum wages. If you did not do what it takes to break out of the lower bracket then I do not feel sorry for you. Obviously this person is not exactly great with money, what are they really going to do with more money. mis-manage it the way they have in the past with their minimum wages? Everyone is not supposed to win, everyone is not supposed to be rich, that is for those who have done something outstanding, it is not for those who coast or set par or sub par expectations. And if Americans are to good to do the work, my pocket is damn sure glad that someone from south of the border who has a hard work ethic will pick up the slack.

[je_rome]

Originally Posted by johnafacade

Americans are fat, lazy and under-educated and unfortunately...it's going to catch up with us some day.

it's not fair to generalize all Americans... i think Americans are among the most industrious persons in the world

[Odin]

Originally Posted by johnafacade

Immigrant labor and outsourcing is the only thing that has kept America's economy from imploding for the last 10 years. The tech boom was great and the real estate bubble made a lot of people a lot of money, but both of them were inflated imaginary money made possible by the hard work of brown people world-wide.

Americans are fat, lazy and under-educated and unfortunately...it's going to catch up with us some day.

Quite clear you haven't been around the world very much. Most 'brown' people do much less work than Americans. Go to the ME and see how many people work, go to lots of South America and see how many truly work. There are a few exceptions to this rule of course, China for example, but for the most part low-income American's work very hard and quite the number of hours just to cover their mortgage alone. I was born into a true working class Australian community, and I know it is similar in much of the States, people work their asses off to cover their bills.

[andrej_NDC]

I bet its 10%+ in real.