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sonofsam 03-07-2006 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz
good point most criminals never hit what htye are shooting at, they just end up killing everything else thats near:thumbsup:

its not up to the good guy to be worried about the bad guys line of fire... only his own.... and his was clear ( if it wasnt, then there would be a dead baby & a dead mom)

but there is no dead baby & no dead mom... who knows what might have happened if he hadnt taken the action he did..... i can see the headlines now... four people slain in robbery last night..... details at 11:00:1orglaugh

actually it IS the good guys problem..

this is why cops arn't allowed to persue some high speed chases... not because they are worried about their own driving... but because they can't put innocent bystanders in danger by giving chase :2 cents:

SmokeyTheBear 03-07-2006 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
not me.. i don't want some hero citizen putting everyone in danger

how many robbers you think go into a place with the intention of robbing the place, and then killing someone just for the hell of it?

most people that are doing robberies are junkies who have no money to buy product... so they just want to get the money.. and go buy some more...

everyone would have been a LOT safer if the "brave nra instructor" didn't pull that stunt


you have a good point . how does this dude know some kids on bikes werent riding by in front of the store as he let loose..
I'm a gun owner/user and im all for the use of firearms for protection.. but this guy wasn't protecting anything . he pulled out his gun the robber bolted , he shot him in the back , the only thing i will give the dude is that , people panis when they feel threatned , and so maybe he freaked , cant fault him for that , but if he thinks thats "proper" behavious , he is wrong in my view.

MikeyFingaz 03-07-2006 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
lets have a vote.... who here would like to have a store employee try and be a hero in that situation if you were standing 3 feet away from him and the robber?

or would you rather let the robber take the fuckin 50 dollars or whatever is in the till and leave so he can go buy crack?


i'd prefer he just take the money and leave...

but you dont know that he would have just left..... none of us do... why hope that the fucker has mercy?

and for the record, if that was me in that position, i would have wanted him to take the action that he did.... sorry bro, i like your drawings, but we are in disagreement on this one lol.

Vlad 03-07-2006 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
actually it IS the good guys problem..

this is why cops arn't allowed to persue some high speed chases... not because they are worried about their own driving... but because they can't put innocent bystanders in danger by giving chase :2 cents:

also you can't persue a biker with police car ! (at least here, IL)

you are putting the life of biker in danger by doing so

MikeyFingaz 03-07-2006 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
actually it IS the good guys problem..

this is why cops arn't allowed to persue some high speed chases... not because they are worried about their own driving... but because they can't put innocent bystanders in danger by giving chase :2 cents:

there is no immenint threat in a highspeed chase... its not a life& death split descision scenario.

sonofsam 03-07-2006 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz
but you dont know that he would have just left..... none of us do... why hope that the fucker has mercy?

I'm sure statistically that everyone would have been safer if the NRA guy didn't pull a gun...

i don't know how big the number of people who randomly kill people for no reason during robberies is... but i'd imagine it would be a considerable size smaller then the amount of people who just take the money and leave :2 cents:

SmokeyTheBear 03-07-2006 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
lets have a vote.... who here would like to have a store employee try and be a hero in that situation if you were standing 3 feet away from him and the robber?

or would you rather let the robber take the fuckin 50 dollars or whatever is in the till and leave so he can go buy crack?


i'd prefer he just take the money and leave...


i would wait until the woman and child were out of harms way then opened fire on his ass :)

Vlad 03-07-2006 03:33 AM

I think this NRA instructor got shocked , and didn't realized whats exactly he was doing in same moment (that's also expalins 3 bullets from 3 feet distance which DIDN'T stopped the robber)

MikeyFingaz 03-07-2006 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
you have a good point . how does this dude know some kids on bikes werent riding by in front of the store as he let loose..
I'm a gun owner/user and im all for the use of firearms for protection.. but this guy wasn't protecting anything . he pulled out his gun the robber bolted , he shot him in the back , the only thing i will give the dude is that , people panis when they feel threatned , and so maybe he freaked , cant fault him for that , but if he thinks thats "proper" behavious , he is wrong in my view.

well actually the robber went to shoot him when he seen the good guys gun... maybe it would have been better if he waited to see what the robber would have done... as far as whats behind the badguy, you have a point... but that was a split descicion situation...

media 03-07-2006 03:34 AM

Did anyone notice the projectile that bounced off of the ceiling? A shell? or a bullet from the robbers gun? or did a bullet hit the glass and then bounce up to the ceiling?

Look at about 33 sec. into the video.. there's a steam of white colored powder that is coming downwards...

media 03-07-2006 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
i would wait until the woman and child were out of harms way then opened fire on his ass :)

My vote too...

EDIT: 50 Stray Bullets

MikeyFingaz 03-07-2006 03:36 AM

:1orglaugh omg lol... you guys are killing me lol.... "well i would have waited for them to be outta the way first, then shot" ( they were out of the way ENOUGH).... by then you might have been dead lol.

or " i will bet on the statistics & hope he doesnt kill me" lol.... well, to each thier own i suppose lol.:1orglaugh

Vlad 03-07-2006 03:37 AM

lucky the women backed up with kid , otherwise she probably would end up with dead baby

MikeyFingaz 03-07-2006 03:37 AM

fuck, when i posted this i was planning on getting the fitty spot lol.

Vlad 03-07-2006 03:38 AM

notice how the bullets pass near the head of babe , and the mother getting outta of fireline

potter 03-07-2006 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
i would wait until the woman and child were out of harms way then opened fire on his ass :)

Cause that's what happens in the movies.



Anyway, I'm out of this thread. Everyone knows the laws, and knows what's right. No point in arguing over something to trival.:error

MikeyFingaz 03-07-2006 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad
lucky the women backed up with kid , otherwise she probably would end up with dead baby

true.... its a good thing that people instinctually jump back away from such things as opposed to flinvhing forward & jumping INTO the way lol....:winkwink:

lol... i swear i think some of you are argueing just because its gfy lol....

anyway lol.... flame on... im hitting the sack lol

Vlad 03-07-2006 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz
true.... its a good thing that people instinctually jump back away from such things as opposed to flinvhing forward & jumping INTO the way lol....:winkwink:

lol... i swear i think some of you are argueing just because its gfy lol....

anyway lol.... flame on... im hitting the sack lol

:1orglaugh

I'm getting my morning coffe , soon I gotta start the day and probably I'll forget about this nra instructor with his niggaz robbers forever , let me have my half hour of fun at GFY :pimp

PussyTeenies 03-07-2006 03:44 AM

guns bad
killing bad
bad is bad

porn is good

SmokeyTheBear 03-07-2006 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by potter
Cause that's what happens in the movies.



Anyway, I'm out of this thread. Everyone knows the laws, and knows what's right. No point in arguing over something to trival.:error

nah in the movies they just fire away..

chances are i would have not gtten around to taking a shot and would have bragged how i "was about to shoot him' all day long after heh

Infact that HAS happened to me quite a few times.. crackhead broke into my car once but by the time i got my gun he was gone.

MikeyFingaz 03-07-2006 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PussyTeenies
guns bad
killing bad
bad is bad

porn is good

lol... noooo, guns arent bad.... the bullets that miss are bad lol....

true, bad is bad....

ahhhhhhhhh porn..... porn is good yes ;) lol

MikeyFingaz 03-07-2006 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
nah in the movies they just fire away..

chances are i would have not gtten around to taking a shot and would have bragged how i "was about to shoot him' all day long after heh

Infact that HAS happened to me quite a few times.. crackhead broke into my car once but by the time i got my gun he was gone.


cant kill a crackhead for breaking into your car.... that would get you labeled a gun nut on a vigilante trip.... no imminent threat of life involved...

hell, i wouldnt engage someone breaking into my car... then you are escalating a situation that didnt need to be a violent one.... better to just call 911 on that one.... property is replaceable, life is not:thumbsup


ok, NOW, im going to bed lol:upsidedow

edit for spelling

Matt 26z 03-07-2006 05:55 AM

The robber raised his gun first, so I don't see how anyone can question the NRA guy for doing what he did.

Yeah, the mother and child were in the potential line of fire at first... but he was having a gun raised at him. It's time to think about your own life.

If that were me, I'd have done a gun battle even if there were a dozen babies laying on that counter if it meant protecting my own life.

PenisFace 03-07-2006 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz
im so glad that those of you saying that the guy was wrong are so willing to put such good faith in the bad guy.... hey wait!!!! i know, lets let him take us in the back of the store & tie us up so we are helpless & hope that he is a good boy like his momma says he is & hope he doesnt kill us:1orglaugh

some people are wired to act in defense, some are not... we werent there, we dont know what was said, wew can only judge.... continue flame ;)

Most bad guys aren't going to kill everyone in a place for no reason when they're only there to steal money. Acting in a defense during a robbery means cooperating. Police say you should cooperate with the robber so as to not put other lives in danger.

NEXT.

Matt 26z 03-07-2006 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PenisFace
Most bad guys aren't going to kill everyone in a place for no reason when they're only there to steal money. Acting in a defense during a robbery means cooperating. Police say you should cooperate with the robber so as to not put other lives in danger.

NEXT.

They say you sould cooperate, but they are also saying that to people who are relatively defenseless. People who have a gun in their hand have other options besides cooperating and hoping things don't go bad.

This is exactly why every single American should be allowed to carry a gun at all times.

Relish XXX 03-07-2006 08:18 AM

I so prefer the British gun laws. No-one has them. If you get caught in possession of a gun you can come out with any excuse you want and the judge will still jail you as it is a minimum 2 years in prison.

We had only 140 murders here last year and 50 of those were in one go when Osama blew up a load of buses and trains.

Our way works.

G-Rotica 03-07-2006 08:20 AM

I love my guns. Hell when I oil them up after a cleaning, I oil my self up. I love them lots.

But to shoot a man in the back 3 times? Once would have done it. What a coward.

ForteCash 03-07-2006 08:24 AM

Kick ass.. He should have went outside and put one in his brain too. :BangBang:

ForteCash 03-07-2006 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX
I so prefer the British gun laws. No-one has them. If you get caught in possession of a gun you can come out with any excuse you want and the judge will still jail you as it is a minimum 2 years in prison.

We had only 140 murders here last year and 50 of those were in one go when Osama blew up a load of buses and trains.

Our way works.


you're an idiot, bad guys dont give a fuck about gun laws moron :321GFY

ForteCash 03-07-2006 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica
I love my guns. Hell when I oil them up after a cleaning, I oil my self up. I love them lots.

But to shoot a man in the back 3 times? Once would have done it. What a coward.

He should have empited the fucking clip if you ask me. Life and death has no room for mercy. :2 cents:

I don't entertain the notion of mercy when someone comes in masked with a gun. that guy, given teh chance, will be dead. A cop wouldnt hesitate to kill an unarmed man.. I wouldnt hesitate to do the same to someone masked with a fucking gun..

Tom_PM 03-07-2006 08:37 AM

If you work for a large retail company or small (if they do any training on the subject), you are taught to simply comply with the robbers demands.

That looked like some rinky dink little check cashing store or something, so no idea what they do. I guess they just shoot robbers, lol.

The making of a "music video" out of the whole thing was more disturbing to me I think. rah rah for gun fans. To each their own.

Phoenix 03-07-2006 08:46 AM

i like how he hides behind the girl at first to draw his gun

Relish XXX 03-07-2006 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ForteCash
you're an idiot, bad guys dont give a fuck about gun laws moron :321GFY

Well seems like we dont have alot of bad guys in the UK then.

Gunni 03-07-2006 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ForteCash
you're an idiot, bad guys dont give a fuck about gun laws moron :321GFY

Yeah, that explains why there are about 1000 times less murders in the UK than the US even though the US only has about 5 times the population of the UK...

It must be that all the bad guys in England actually own guns but they're just too damn polite to kill anyone with them :upsidedow

Verbal 03-07-2006 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunni
Yeah, that explains why there are about 1000 times less murders in the UK than the US even though the US only has about 5 times the population of the UK...

It must be that all the bad guys in England actually own guns but they're just too damn polite to kill anyone with them :upsidedow

If it wasn't for the English, American's wouldn't of needed guns. :winkwink:











Just kidding, I love everybody and firing a gun around a baby to save your own ass and make a 'cool' video out of it to impress your NRA buddies is completely justifiable. :helpme

Anthony 03-07-2006 09:31 AM

Righteous shooting. Mother and child were not in line of fire.

Anthony 03-07-2006 09:40 AM

Guns make the US safer.

Violent crimes are coming down faster in the US than Canada.

Canada, the government uses the falling homicide rate as support for their claim that gun
control laws are working. Unfortunately for this argument, the homicide rate has been
falling even faster in the United States.

http://www.sfu.ca/~mauser/papers/saf/GCAW290702.doc.pdf

From an esteemed college in British Canada. Simon Fraser University

Legal citizens can protect themselves from scum. As it should be. It is not the Police's job to protect me and my own.

Z 03-07-2006 10:28 AM

Gun control is hitting what you're aiming at.

DeloreanRider99 03-07-2006 11:11 AM

I think that guy made a bad decision... consider the fact that the mother and her kid were there in front, he should not have shot at the robber. He may be a good shot, but doesnt the loudness of fireing a gun destroy babies hearing?

Matt 26z 03-07-2006 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DeloreanRider99
I think that guy made a bad decision... consider the fact that the mother and her kid were there in front, he should not have shot at the robber. He may be a good shot, but doesnt the loudness of fireing a gun destroy babies hearing?

If you had a gun drawn on you and you believed there was a chance you could be killed, you'd think about a babies hearing rather than protect your own life?


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