Positive point:

- he supplies unlimited material to latenight comedy hosts :thumbsup

there youi have a point

"If he's only "the face" then why are you blaming everything on him? Why don't you blame it on whoever you think is supposedly "in charge"?"
Otherwise i would have to say 'the bush administration..' all the time. I think you know what i mean.


"No offense, but I have no idea what you just said."
Talking about stickyfingerzdotnet comment.


"Ok first you say that he is "sacrificing lives for oil money", then you say that he is trying to make the US dollar worth as much as half a euro penny? That makes NO sense whatsoever. Why would you try to get rich and make money worthless at the same time?!"
Theyve calculated that the war would bring in money - thats usually the case. Weapons + Oil = $$$$$. But it turned out to be a 2nd vietnam. 2nd vietnam COSTS $$$$$.
They obviously fucked up. Thats my point. Eventually the US will get the oil, but the war taking longer as planned is such a huge blow for the economy and lives of soldiers that the dollar is way down and still american lives are being sacrificed for oil: The only hope they have now, due to the fuckup war, for a better economy. It is now a vicious circle.


"And don't give me that bullshit about drowning New Orleans. The governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans got that exact same report that the White House and federal agencies got and they chose to ignore it."
I believe the president of the US has an itty bit more responsibility for its own citizens then mayors and other less powerful people involved. But hey blame it on them i guess, as long as bush (yes, i mean the bush administration) doesnt get the blame.

"Also, who exactly is "living in fear" and what "false terror alarms" are you talking about?""
The color alarms like "today code orange for the whole country".. It sounds like a turned down screen play for a crappy superhero movie, its fucking childish.

im done for tonight.. my remark was pointed to sticky, but one last question: If YOU knew that this admin would fuckup majorly like this, would you still have voted for them?

The media would have a field day with Jebs kids.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The point is that most people don't understand that. There are a TON of people out there that don't know the first thing about politics or current events, so (being the tools that they are) when someone says "it's all Bush's fault, blame it on Bush" they start blaming everything solely on the President himself.



Dude, this nowhere NEAR a 2nd Vietnam. I don't think the war is a "fuck up" at all. What were the objectives (forget about the WMD crap - I mean the actual objectives):

1.) Remove the Taliban regime from Afganistan - Done

2.) Remove Saddam Hussein and his regime from Iraq once and for all - Done

3.) Stay and provide a military presence and military support (defense) until a new local government can be established and is strong enough to stand on it's own - In Progress

No one said this war was going to be cheap or short. There are no rules or time frames... it's a war. Loss of life is another unfortunate and sad effect of war and is also to be expected, especially by the soldiers. The US soldiers that are over there were NOT drafted... they freely volunteered.



No, actually that IS the whole point of having local governments; the President is part of the Federal government (macro vs. micro)


Yes, I agree that it's childish and a bit rediculous. However, if there was nothing like this in place you would get everyone whining about "NOT knowing if we were in danger", etc. No matter which way it goes, there will about be people that are just looking for something to find wrong and bitch about.


As stated before, I don't consider this administration a "fuck up". So yes, I would vote for him again... :2 cents:

Don't want to intrude, but I am looking for some real strong shit to smoke... How can I contact your pusher ?


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Seriously, Afghanistan IS in the control of the Talibans aside from Kabul; same thing repeating itself ( re: Soviets ) .

If I tell you you I would like to spend again a vacation in Mexico, I must have reasons ( good food, cheap accomodation, great pussy, etc..).
What reasons , knowing the actual failures and lies, would make you vote again for him É

Name it... to help you, name it like:

- Social security : he did great :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Easy no ?

See #3 about: In Progress

Also, it's not the same thing that happened with the Soviets (the US (MAJOR superpower) was backing them against the Soviets during the Cold War; completely different)



- Social Security : did Clinton do any better? No. The fact is Social Security is fucked and dying no matter how you look at it or who is in charge of it. That is because of politicians altogether (as in all of them, no matter what "side" they are on); you act like it was going great before and he came along and fucked it up... not so.

I am not talking about Clinton, or Reagan or Carter or ... The subject is:

BUSH: why would you vote for him again ...

So don't tell me you WOULDN'T vote for this guy or that guy, tell me why precisely you would vote for BUSH ( Dubya ).

Now, you go on Afghanistan from DONE to IN PROGRESS ... You guys are so fucking weak and clueless...

I appreciate having someone that doesn't mind making aggressive moves sometimes. Am I saying that he is perfect? No. What I AM saying is that I think he was the best man for the job. So, now that I have answered that, who would you vote for and why?

See above post



Ok, I will try to go over this once again since you are having a hard time understanding this:




Did we overthrow the Taliban government that was in place?

Y E S (as in Done)


Are we finished; is there a new stable govt in place yet?

N O (as in In Progress)

What next Jews for Hitler?

Funneeeeeee thread -- http://www.deptfordplayers.org/mstag...esar-III,i.jpg -- :1orglaugh

:eek7

Why, is Downtime a terrorist? Then why the comparison to Jews and Hitler?

Umm adult webmasters for Bush? Hmmm voting for somebody that wants to put you out of business and preferably in prison. REAL fucking smart.

Yeah, because that's ever going to happen with any president. [/sarcasm]

It's called politics. If YOU started financing lobbyists and politicians, you might just notice a little less heat. Unfortunately however, this industry has a LONG way to go before it has any type of mainstream-sized power behind it politically (or in the business world)

Trying to talk politics to these hicks from FL and TX is like trying to talk philosophy to Mike Tyson.

Ok Rainman, why don't you take a break from your Special Olympics training and give us your oh-so-wise take on everything...

I've learned a long time ago the only thing you sheep fuckers understand is mechanical bulls, budweiser and The Jerry Springer Show. Must be that wonderful Texas educational system.

...and you and your fake nick are from _________?

For your enjoyment.........

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That your wife and kids?

Why, want me to hook ya up?

Any webmaster who voted for bush obviously doesn't have a grasp of the big picture.

i didn't vote.. had no faith in either canidate

I had to vote "juicy is hot" ;-) because Democrat and Republican are just two sides of the same corrupt and dastardly coin. Democracy is two wolves and one lamb deciding what to have for dinner.

So I've decided to stop having a hand in what the corrupt government does. Sure I pay my taxes (but not because I want to, but rather, because I don't want to go to jail), but that is where it ends. As long as I can cast a ballot I will not vote for the government stooges that grace the top two slots. At least I can say, "hey I didn't vote for either of the government sponsored idiots" and that's about the only right we have left, NOT to vote for them.

Next time, people, vote LIBERTARIAN :-)

What a bigoted, small minded , little twit you are. I live in Texas but was born and educated in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts. I have both a batchelors and masters degrees in different technical fields. Moving to Dallas, Texas is a decision I don't regret.

You have a big mouth, but apparently are too chicken-shit to answer a simple question like where YOU are from. Its no wonder that with candidates like this who know whats best for us, and elite intellectuals like yourself supporting them.....that you continue to LOSE

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Massachusetts says the same :)

Christ the fucking morons from texas are dumber than I thought. If you're going to lie about having a 'batchelors' degree at least learn how to spell the fucking word.

im proud to proclaim that never did i vote for him. his father's performance is already enough