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  • quiet
    we'll miss you our friend. RIP
    • Sep 2001
    • 25115

    #1

    ever paid a contractor under the table?

    getting some work done to one of my properties, and the guy wants to give me a deal if i pay under the table. i'm so anal about taxes and the govt, i'm sure i'll pass. your thoughts?
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  • eamedia
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    • Feb 2005
    • 1456

    #2
    sounds like an affiliate that dosent want his commisions reported...

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    • Lycanthrope
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2004
      • 4517

      #3
      I do nothing under the table, furthermore, won't this expenditure increase your property's value, therefore YOUR tax liability?

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      • chadglni
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        • Dec 2002
        • 6924

        #4
        Yes but if it's something important I'd pay normal in case they fuck it up.


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        • JoeMeca
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          • Nov 2005
          • 2266

          #5
          how much under the table?

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          • bringer
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            • Jul 2003
            • 13082

            #6
            under the table means no permits which means no one to verify their work is correct. theres a good change anything you get done will have to be redone
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            • breaker
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              • Oct 2003
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              #7
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              • marketsmart
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                • Dec 2004
                • 20419

                #8
                don't do it...

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                • JFK
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                  • Jan 2002
                  • 67373

                  #9
                  I do it all the time

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                  • quiet
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                    • Sep 2001
                    • 25115

                    #10
                    lol jfk
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                    • CyberHustler
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                      • Feb 2006
                      • 28750

                      #11
                      Fuck It Yo... Homeboy Just Tryin To Get Some Extra Money In His Pocket. If You Don't Wanna Spend A Lot Of Money Pay Under The Table... If You All Scared And Shit Then Don't Take A Chance... Cuz Once You Do It You Can't Change It Or Both Of Yall Going Down.
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                      • the Shemp
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                        • Nov 2001
                        • 10891

                        #12
                        its pretty common in Canada
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                        • baddog
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 107089

                          #13
                          would not recommend it . . . I did a major remodel with my first home and it turned into a total clusterfuck. It took probably 5 years to get resolved from the beginning of construction to the final collection of the judgment against him.

                          Am glad I had a legal contract

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                          • u-Bob
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                            • Jul 2005
                            • 33063

                            #14
                            pay a "small part" under the table.

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                            • Morgan
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                              • May 2002
                              • 10520

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BuySexProducts
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                              • Morgan
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                                • May 2002
                                • 10520

                                #16
                                ive done some jobs w/out permits recently. nothing major though.

                                not even sure anything ive done would require permits. i ripped out a couple bathrooms, but just to redo all tiles, new sinks, toilets, counters, etc... no walls were modified.

                                new hardwood floors, carpets, heating/ac, etc...

                                so where do they draw the line for actually needing a permit for something? sorry, im a fresh first time homeowner.
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                                • JFK
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                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 67373

                                  #17
                                  what I dont understand is why , I should have to pay tax on someone's labour ? I pick the people I deal with carefully , and discusss in advance as to what is to be done. The savings do add up over time, its not what you make, its what you keep

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                                  • WiredGuy
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                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 34512

                                    #18
                                    If he's someone you trust, sure. If this is the first time using this guy, hell no. Legal contracts have some recourse, under the table, you're screwed.
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                                    • Spunky
                                      I need a beer
                                      • Jun 2002
                                      • 133987

                                      #19
                                      What if he does something wrong and bails on you..you don't have anything in writing to fall back on

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                                      • zigx
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                                        • Sep 2003
                                        • 1430

                                        #20
                                        if people are going to live there dont do it... if its u and u wont sue urself over a ceiling injury to the dome, then do it
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                                        • pornguy
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                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 62912

                                          #21
                                          If it is some minor shit, then yeah, pay the guy under the table. If it is something that can easily get fucked up, then get the legal contract, and do it the right way.
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                                          • drunken ninja
                                            Registered User
                                            • Mar 2006
                                            • 717

                                            #22
                                            I knew a tile guy got paid $100,000 under the table to do some bathroom work...that was LA though

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                                            • quiet
                                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                              • Sep 2001
                                              • 25115

                                              #23
                                              yeah, it's minor - certainly no structural shit. still don't think i'll bother.
                                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                              • Matt 26z
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                                                • Apr 2002
                                                • 18481

                                                #24
                                                This sort of thing is pretty common with small jobs.

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                                                • Drake
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                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 12508

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pornguy
                                                  If it is some minor shit, then yeah, pay the guy under the table. If it is something that can easily get fucked up, then get the legal contract, and do it the right way.
                                                  Sounds right

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                                                  • Scootermuze
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                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                    • 4513

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Morgan
                                                    .....................
                                                    so where do they draw the line for actually needing a permit for something? sorry, im a fresh first time homeowner.
                                                    Usually if it's structural, electrical, or plumbing you'd probably need a permit... and it could depend on if you live within city limits or the county..

                                                    Even if you don't get permits, you'd want to have plumbing and electrical inspected.. 2 things that don't hurt to have the eyes of the experienced look over..

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                                                    • RobbieRye
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                      • 616

                                                      #27
                                                      I guess what you're really forfeiting is any type of warranty, recourse, and assuming all of the liability when paying a contractor under the table.

                                                      Personally, when the contractor I paid to build my fence said "want to pay cash", I jumped at the chance. When the road crew came by and said "we have extra ashvault, if you have $500, we'll do your driveway", I said "yes please and here is a case of beer if you toss in a load of gravel underneath".

                                                      But, these are both small things that even if I had a warrenty could either be easily repaired by me personally, or not repaired at all.

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                                                      • Pornwolf
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                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                        • 22712

                                                        #28
                                                        Pay him under the table Q. Don't be anal over some small stuff. The man is just trying to eat.
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                                                        • KRL
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                                                          • Oct 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          A lot of contractors won't even take a check.

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                                                          • Quotealex
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                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                            • 6265

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                            its pretty common in Canada
                                                            So true. In fact in Quebec, we take it for granted that the work will done under the table...

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                                                            • 2HousePlague
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                                                              • Jul 2004
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                                                              • Odin
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                                                                • Jan 2004
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                                                                #32
                                                                Pretty common in Australia too. I wouldn't do it for a large sized job, but the cash economy helps keep alot of small businesses afloat over here.
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                                                                • baddog
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                  • 107089

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Morgan
                                                                  ive done some jobs w/out permits recently. nothing major though.

                                                                  not even sure anything ive done would require permits. i ripped out a couple bathrooms, but just to redo all tiles, new sinks, toilets, counters, etc... no walls were modified.

                                                                  new hardwood floors, carpets, heating/ac, etc...

                                                                  so where do they draw the line for actually needing a permit for something? sorry, im a fresh first time homeowner.
                                                                  It is really up to the city you live in. If you went up and asked for a permit, they would probably charge you, but of the items you mentioned I would think that heating/ac would fall under the category of needing one.

                                                                  I know I should have gotten one to replace my roof, but forgot to go down there.

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