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it happened to me twice in the past,but i don't recall if it was through whois.sc or powerpipe.com. I'm almost confident due to the nature of the domains it wasn't a random event. I do not recall more details right now. I would be interested to see more on this issue.
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Thanks for the post Jay, that was informative for sure.
:thumbsup Someone I know told me of another service to 'watch' things through but never verified it, guess I have something to look at tommorow. I'm curious now. |
Interesting read.
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another story with manila industries and domains taken
http://www.tiedtothetracks.com/story...ves/000873.htm something tells me this person did a whois as well and domain(s) ended up registered by manila co. shortly after. |
How the hell do you "taste" a domain for 4 days without buying it? :1orglaugh
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Ok, Jay but I have had SEVERAL very specific domain searches registered by Manila recently. At first I just noticed that one domain I decided I wanted had been registered by them a day or 2 after I had searched for it. Then I got curious and typed in several other of the domains I had tried (and were available at that time) and they had also been registed within a day or 2 of me searching for them and had been snapped up by the exact same company.
None of these domains were even remotely related to each other so you can't say that they were just registering additional spellings or variations. I see other simlilar discussions on the net about Manila Industries. Perhaps they are getting the search data at a higher level then your company? I guess they could be tapped into whatever database your company queries from. |
Somebody point me to a registrar with a 5 day money back guarantee please.
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Yunno, it's funny that people think just because a company provides a popular service used by thousands on the internet that they aren't corrupt or they don't have the potential for being misused by some bad guys out there.
Not saying anything necessarily about whois.sc, hell I use them too, but I am always wary about companies that can benefit from your advance information. I'm especially wary about companies that catch dropped domains for instance. There should be a lot of money made by having a script that rates, tracks and snatches domains that are searched and bidded on. Especially when it's YOUR service. Plenty of horror stories about this if you look for em. |
Pornwolf, I hear ya.. but in Jays case ( Whois.sc ) I think they would stand to lose a great deal more if they were doing something a bit unethical. With deals with major registrars, and profiting from the services they offer, I think their reputation stands to be harmed greatly. I don't think he would risk it. I believe what he said, the way he explained it, and that he believes it to be true. Trusting the registry (Verisign/Netsol) however, I wouldn't go that far.
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i would not be surprised if a bot or spyware was the tool rather than espionage at the registrar level but anything is possible and i also agree that there really are very few unique terms/words etc. that only one human in the whole world would consider registering.
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As for the database we query, we go right to the top, Verisign. Verisign is not allowed to sell this information currently, nor would I see them selling it in the future. I don't buy a leak at any level, perhaps spyware, but seems to far fetched that someone is on your computer registering domains you type in. |
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As a Registrar, you have 5 days to delete a domain name and not get charged. This is to allow a registrar to handle a chargeback or a typo if it is caught early. It also allows a registrar to test their registration services and then delete the domains. In the last year, this ability/right they have has been abused and now it is mostly used to Domain Tasting. The orginal reason is still valid and writted into a contract so Verisign has not modified the 5 day grace. |
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