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  • SmokeyTheBear
    ►SouthOfHeaven
    • Jun 2004
    • 28609

    #46
    anyone who doubts my authenticity has my authorization to verify those stats with nastydollars i posted , im not going to post every stat but you get the picture

    i hereby authorize anyone from nastydollars to verify those numbers are correct to anyone who from gfy that asks ( that posts here first )
    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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    • Matt 26z
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2002
      • 18481

      #47
      In this case, I don't trust anyone who you'd trust to look at your stats. Obviously you won't let them look, and they'll just come back here and post what you told them to post.

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      • SmokeyTheBear
        ►SouthOfHeaven
        • Jun 2004
        • 28609

        #48
        game set match.. btw you needn't get you panties in a bunch dude. i was just pointing out the futility of your original thread statement. Dont get all ofended i'm not

        I dont claim to be anything more than i am. a guy who likes to help. thats it. im no better than many on the board. i dont claim to be anything im not . if you choose to hold me to a higher standard then thats your hangup
        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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        • SmokeyTheBear
          ►SouthOfHeaven
          • Jun 2004
          • 28609

          #49
          Originally posted by Matt 26z
          In this case, I don't trust anyone who you'd trust to look at your stats. Obviously you won't let them look, and they'll just come back here and post what you told them to post.
          i just gave YOU authorization from any nastydollars staff to verify those numbers.. try reading.. you cant read my stats because your being a prick , but if you wanna ask nd ill give them permission to verify those numbers to you.. unless you dont trust nd..
          hatisblack at yahoo.com

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          • Rui
            web
            • Dec 2001
            • 9533

            #50
            Originally posted by chadglni
            When you fuck with peoples income you are asking for enough karma to fuck 3 generations of your family. Tell your great great grandkid it's your fault he lives in the ghetto.
            Go tell that to LEO's and the likes...

            this is a funny ass thread tho

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            • Rui
              web
              • Dec 2001
              • 9533

              #51
              Originally posted by Matt 26z
              I have reported many, many people that unfairly knocked me down and I will continue to do so. I do not have the time nor the desire to play your black hat SEO games just so I can keep the keywords I deserve on my relevant sites over your garbage sites.

              Black hat SEO's are pathetic industry rejects in my book. You say I should learn to play the SEO game to keep my sites on top. I say YOU should create better, truly relevant sites.
              Amen brother....but GFY is the wrong place to make such statements, if you know what I mean (just look at this thread)

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              • suesheboy
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2002
                • 5211

                #52
                Originally posted by sumz
                Cheating? How? I can´t think a single way to "cheat" search engines, it´s called seo. Just try to rank better.
                Bulshit.

                Real SEo is done white hat and cheaters do get caught and go down.

                All the engines have report links.
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                • Matt 26z
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 18481

                  #53
                  I'm quite certain ND is not interested in playing our little GFY games considering they don't even post here. If you make that, great. If not, I don't care either.

                  I just find your "they should be using my smokey.txt and not robots.txt to remove my site, or I've got rights to nail them!" mentality to be on the childish side.

                  But whatever....... I'm gone.

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                  • Young
                    Bland for life
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 10468

                    #54
                    ★★★

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                    • SmokeyTheBear
                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 28609

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Matt 26z
                      I'm quite certain ND is not interested in playing our little GFY games considering they don't even post here. If you make that, great. If not, I don't care either.

                      I just find your "they should be using my smokey.txt and not robots.txt to remove my site, or I've got rights to nail them!" mentality to be on the childish side.

                      But whatever....... I'm gone.

                      blah blah blah you make statements you cant backup . I make statement i backup with hard facts. Any sponsor is more than happy to verify my stats to another affiliate because i make good coin with them..

                      You obviously do care because you brought it up. not me..

                      You find my smokey.txt example childish because you bend over for google . Thats the synopsis of this thread.

                      You fail to see the obvious , like " i dont ask google to connect to my server " , why should i have to follow google's TOS when they access MY server , i think you have it backwards , they need to follow MY tos when they access my server , thats not hard to understand, thats how the internet worked before google dominated. they dominated by ignoring people's tos's
                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                      • SmokeyTheBear
                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 28609

                        #56
                        frankly i think its rather childish of you to throw out insults to people who try to help you, then when your given a chance to verify your "childish" statements like " your just a sig whore " trying to undermine my credibility to cover up for your lack of answers, you tuck tail and run.. at least be a man and say "hey maybe i was wrong , sorry , i guess maybe you might know a thing or two about what your talking about we just have different opinions.. "

                        For the record anyone who ever wants to promote a sponsor i promote is more than happy to work with me to verify any numbers i state from the sponsor themselves .. i promote people i trust . I have never recieved one red dime from a sponsor BEFORE the decision to put the sig in was done. I make money from referalls but certainly not more than my sites
                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                        • fr0gman
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 2093

                          #57
                          The relationship between SEO?s and SE? is just like the relationship between Blackjack card counters and the casinos. The casinos and law enforcement agree that card counting is not cheating, but if you get caught counting cards in a major casino you will be banned. The same thing applies to black-hat SEO. It is simply an act of using the system that the SEs created yet if you get caught ?using their system? to its maximum advantage you run the risk of getting banned. This is a risk that the card counters and the SEO takes and because the ?big boys? created the game they can decide who wins and who is not allowed to play.

                          For an average Joe-on-the-street to blow the whistle on someone for moving within the framework created by the ?system? is unconscionable. Why would you report someone for using the system as it was designed? Doing so would be the equivalent of making a personal decision that 45 MPH is as fast as you are comfortable driving then complaining about everyone that drives the speed limit.

                          If you see that others have achieved a level of success that you envy do not seek to undermine their success by reporting them as ?cheaters?. Do you homework and develop a better method for success. For as we all know, there are two ways to have the tallest building in town. One way is to build a taller building then your neighbors, and the other way is to tear all the other buildings down.

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                          • BlackCrayon
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 19634

                            #58
                            personally i don't see any difference in black hat seo's and spammers. you are spamming search engines. if google didn't spider sites automatically you know damn well you'd be submitting to them the old fashioned way.

                            black hats make things totally unfair, they force everyone else to use black hat methods if we want to surpass them in the rankings and just keep making the se's make things harder and harder to get good listing because the black hats keep them changing the rules. you can blame the black hats for lack of se traffic for those who stick to the methods of content and backlinks.
                            you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                            • SmokeyTheBear
                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 28609

                              #59
                              Originally posted by fr0gman
                              The relationship between SEO?s and SE? is just like the relationship between Blackjack card counters and the casinos. The casinos and law enforcement agree that card counting is not cheating, but if you get caught counting cards in a major casino you will be banned. The same thing applies to black-hat SEO. It is simply an act of using the system that the SEs created yet if you get caught ?using their system? to its maximum advantage you run the risk of getting banned. This is a risk that the card counters and the SEO takes and because the ?big boys? created the game they can decide who wins and who is not allowed to play.

                              For an average Joe-on-the-street to blow the whistle on someone for moving within the framework created by the ?system? is unconscionable. Why would you report someone for using the system as it was designed? Doing so would be the equivalent of making a personal decision that 45 MPH is as fast as you are comfortable driving then complaining about everyone that drives the speed limit.

                              If you see that others have achieved a level of success that you envy do not seek to undermine their success by reporting them as ?cheaters?. Do you homework and develop a better method for success. For as we all know, there are two ways to have the tallest building in town. One way is to build a taller building then your neighbors, and the other way is to tear all the other buildings down.

                              Learn to build.

                              Dear common sense

                              You do not belong here , common sense is not allowed

                              Thanks you kindly , irrational viewer
                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 28609

                                #60
                                Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                personally i don't see any difference in black hat seo's and spammers. you are spamming search engines. if google didn't spider sites automatically you know damn well you'd be submitting to them the old fashioned way.

                                black hats make things totally unfair, they force everyone else to use black hat methods if we want to surpass them in the rankings and just keep making the se's make things harder and harder to get good listing because the black hats keep them changing the rules. you can blame the black hats for lack of se traffic for those who stick to the methods of content and backlinks.
                                i will tell you the difference.. spammers send things.. getting listed on google doesnt require people to "send" anything

                                "black hats" make google work , if it didnt google would be broke. if the search engines showed perfect results, nobody would ever click on an ad, it wouldnt be profitable , black hat seo is what makes google work.. without blackhat google would be broke , close down and you wouldnt get a hit from google.. thank black hats for creating traffic for you
                                Last edited by SmokeyTheBear; 03-05-2006, 01:30 PM.
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