Cheating? How? I can´t think a single way to "cheat" search engines, it´s called seo. Just try to rank better.
isn't page redirection called cheating??? and let me tell you something, there is more than efficient ways to cheat a SE... but it is black black black hat SEO and one could get banned!
isn't page redirection called cheating??? and let me tell you something, there is more than efficient ways to cheat a SE... but it is black black black hat SEO and one could get banned!
Funny, when I go to Google.com they redirect me to Google.ca. They should banned I say!!
WG
Compared to other much more unsavory ways to make money on the web, I don't think there really is a such thing as "black hat" SEO. It's all kosher to me.
I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
So you think when I use IP delivery I´m cheating? Is Google some kind of GOD to you? They are crawling my pages and listing them and I am cheating? Think again
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
Index spamming, redirects, displaying different page for googlebot, etc... Google has rules as well, and an abuse reporting page.
So when I redirect my page, I should block googlebot? Is that required by law?
I see what you people mean, but using word "cheating" really isn´t right. Even if you manually submit to Google, there are no rules. Sure they can give penalty or remove, but it still aint cheating.
MSN says on their submit page "no redirects", so I guess manually submitting there could be "cheating".
So when I redirect my page, I should block googlebot? Is that required by law?
I see what you people mean, but using word "cheating" really isn´t right. Even if you manually submit to Google, there are no rules. Sure they can give penalty or remove, but it still aint cheating.
MSN says on their submit page "no redirects", so I guess manually submitting there could be "cheating".
If that's what you consider cheating, I should have gotten the electric chair years ago, lol.
WG
When you fuck with peoples income you are asking for enough karma to fuck 3 generations of your family. Tell your great great grandkid it's your fault he lives in the ghetto.
If that's what you consider cheating, I should have gotten the electric chair years ago, lol.
WG
Lol yeah, I just tried to say, how can it be cheating if you don´t even submit your site anywhere, but they come and crawl and list you and YOU are cheating? Sounds strange
is google the net police. theres no such thing as cheaters on google. theres just irrelevent sites that google lists for whatever reason, unless you manually asked for google to list you. I certainly haven't ever asked google for shit.. they list what they want to list and i punish them for stealing my shit wihout my permission. I even left COMPLETE instructins onhow google should create a file to stop my site from being liste on their site but they ignore it. I copied the idea from google actualy.I figured hell , if they can steal shit and justify it by telling people they should make a robots.txt so can i..
is google the net police. theres no such thing as cheaters on google. theres just irrelevent sites that google lists for whatever reason, unless you manually asked for google to list you. I certainly haven't ever asked google for shit.. they list what they want to list and i punish them for stealing my shit wihout my permission. I even left COMPLETE instructins onhow google should create a file to stop my site from being liste on their site but they ignore it. I copied the idea from google actualy.I figured hell , if they can steal shit and justify it by telling people they should make a robots.txt so can i..
Exactly my thoughts! I just can´t understand why so many finds Google as some kind of God.
I have reported many, many people that unfairly knocked me down and I will continue to do so. I do not have the time nor the desire to play your black hat SEO games just so I can keep the keywords I deserve on my relevant sites over your garbage sites.
Black hat SEO's are pathetic industry rejects in my book. You say I should learn to play the SEO game to keep my sites on top. I say YOU should create better, truly relevant sites.
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Black hat SEO's are pathetic industry rejects in my book. You say I should learn to play the SEO game to keep my sites on top. I say YOU should create better, truly relevant sites.
Why bother.. it makes no sense to do MORE work for LESS profit.. what kind of strategy is that ? why create relevent sites when i can create irrelevent sites that rank higher ? I have a clear disclaimer pointing out that google doesn't have the right to access my site and i gave CLEAR instruction on how they can create a special file in their server so they dont visit my site , yet they ignore it and spider and rank my sites. If anything you should be blaming google for not taking the time to read my pages , not people who rank higher because their sites are optimized better..
I have reported many, many people that unfairly knocked me down and I will continue to do so. I do not have the time nor the desire to play your black hat SEO games just so I can keep the keywords I deserve on my relevant sites over your garbage sites.
Black hat SEO's are pathetic industry rejects in my book. You say I should learn to play the SEO game to keep my sites on top. I say YOU should create better, truly relevant sites.
I do whatever works for me. About relevancy, if people are looking for black porn and I give them black porn paysite, what could be more relevant?
Why bother.. it makes no sense to do MORE work for LESS profit.. what kind of strategy is that ? why create relevent sites when i can create irrelevent sites that rank higher ? I have a clear disclaimer pointing out that google doesn't have the right to access my site and i gave CLEAR instruction on how they can create a special file in their server so they dont visit my site , yet they ignore it and spider and rank my sites. If anything you should be blaming google for not taking the time to read my pages , not people who rank higher because their sites are optimized better..
Yeah and it's also easier to go rob the 7-11 than to make the money yourself. If all sites opperated like you do, the internet would be totally worthless. On a business level, I have very little respect for people like you.
And saying that you tell Google to not list your sites -- the very sites that are optimized for Google -- sounds like something you'd try and pass off onto a 5 year old. Sorry, not everyone at GFY is a crackhead.
The google Services are made available for your personal, non-commercial use only. You may not use the google Services to sell a product or service, or to increase traffic to your Web site for commercial reasons, such as advertising sales.
Google does not like SEO's. Smokey is right in putting up a disclaimer
Yeah and it's also easier to go rob the 7-11 than to make the money yourself. If all sites opperated like you do, the internet would be totally worthless. On a business level, I have very little respect for people like you.
And saying that you tell Google to not list your sites -- the very sites that are optimized for Google -- sounds like something you'd try and pass off onto a 5 year old. Sorry, not everyone at GFY is a crackhead.
comparing an se rank to robbing a 7-11 is idiocy .. I DONT ASK GOOGLE TO VISIT MY SITE . I have little respect for people who STEAL MY SHIT LIKE GOOGLE , infact i have NO RESPECT for people like google , and if i try to recoup my losses by bringing in some coin then so be it.. GOOGLE is the robber.. you have your priorities back asswards , because you seem to be under the impression google is better than you or i..
you can't do shit about it, you can try reporting it and hope they look into it, but 99.999 chance is they won't. The really only good solution is to just outrank them, then you won't have to worry about it....
Originally Posted by Google TOS
The google Services are made available for your personal, non-commercial use only. You may not use the google Services to sell a product or service, or to increase traffic to your Web site for commercial reasons, such as advertising sales.
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exactly i have the same disclaimer on my site. they are using MY services for commercial purposes , so they are stealing from me. i dont use google services.. they use mine..
dont blame me if google is so INEPT they cant read my disclaimer..
Yeah and it's also easier to go rob the 7-11 than to make the money yourself. If all sites opperated like you do, the internet would be totally worthless. On a business level, I have very little respect for people like you.
And saying that you tell Google to not list your sites -- the very sites that are optimized for Google -- sounds like something you'd try and pass off onto a 5 year old. Sorry, not everyone at GFY is a crackhead.
i dont optimize anything for google. they optimize their site based on my site.. i dont have anything to do with it.
Yeah and it's also easier to go rob the 7-11 than to make the money yourself. If all sites opperated like you do, the internet would be totally worthless. On a business level, I have very little respect for people like you.
And saying that you tell Google to not list your sites -- the very sites that are optimized for Google -- sounds like something you'd try and pass off onto a 5 year old. Sorry, not everyone at GFY is a crackhead.
In conclusion i have little respect for people that support thievery of my files.. sorry but we arent 5 years old here , we all know what hotlinking is.. we know google uses our shit to make them billions, and you just let them take take take.. sorry i dont bend over for the beast, if you choose to bend over for google then so be it , but if you think thats a good business strategy , good luck . I'm playing by their rules , your stuck in the 90's. Do you think google was created for the good of the people ?
no offense but dont get stuck up on google and stop bowing down..
Do you optimize your sites at all ? then your technically against google's tos , and you cant tell me you haven't done 1 thing ever that you did primarily because you knew it would increase your rank.. MY tos overrides googles. tos because i dont go to there servers EVER they come to ME take MY shit they need to read MY TOS not vice versa, when i go and submit my site to heir index or ping their servers , then i will read their TOS
How exactly are you losing money on Google? The shady SEO stuff is the only way for you to remain profitable on Google? Very strange.
Even if you are talking about the image search, decent webmasters do not lose money on that.
easy i put up a mainstream site with a hidden link for the hotel owner to check his personal pictures he uploaded. google spidered it put the images in its database hotlinked them ( huge pics ) , caused several hundred dollars in bandwidth as they showed up for completely irrelevent and high ranking searches based on its idiotic algroithm . I had a tos restricting anyone from using the pictures or displaying them in any form on any other site.. they violated my tos and cost me money..
i see so what your saying is , i should have been aware google was stealing shit , and "optimized" they page they stole so i could profit from it ?? it wasnt a "profit" webpage .. it was a personal pictures page..
Even if you are talking about the image search, decent webmasters do not lose money on that.
explain to me how "decent" webmasters dont lose money from google images ?
I'll answer that for you .. they add advertising to offset the cost and optimize the page ( whoops cant optimize against google TOS )
So im forced to put up advertising on a page that was free just to offset googles thievery ? get real... THEY STOLE the shit from me, not the other way around.. how the fuck do you justify that??.. you dont!! its called stealing in any civilized society..
i try to outrank them instead of bringing it to a board whining.
exactly ... the link to complain is on the bottom every every results page.. they dont listen to the them for the same reasona thief wouldnt listen if you sent him a note asking him not to steal your shit. infact it might just make him WANT to steal your shit..
If you WANT google traffic you optimize your site as best you can and try to beat the others.. if someone ranks higher its for one reason , THEY ARE BETTER THAN YOU , the best advice is copy their method..and do it better..
explain to me how "decent" webmasters dont lose money from google images ?
I'll answer that for you .. they add advertising to offset the cost and optimize the page ( whoops cant optimize against google TOS )
So im forced to put up advertising on a page that was free just to offset googles thievery ? get real... THEY STOLE the shit from me, not the other way around.. how the fuck do you justify that??.. you dont!! its called stealing in any civilized society..
if you don't like it, add google to robots.txt... problem solved...
and you are just fucking around, right? if not, you are the only webmaster I've seen that complains about google traffic...
Why would you care if anyone was "cheating". Who put you in charge of policing search results. The only reason I can think of is that they are outranking you and you don't know how to go over the top.
if you don't like it, add google to robots.txt... problem solved...
and you are just fucking around, right? if not, you are the only webmaster I've seen that complains about google traffic...
Smokey is a dumbass, so of course he's being serious in this thread.
He isn't the great business mind that GFY is led to believe. That part is just a board character to get sig views. I'm telling you, this fool makes more money off his sig than his actual sites. Mark my words.
Smokey is a dumbass, so of course he's being serious in this thread.
He isn't the great business mind that GFY is led to believe. That part is just a board character to get sig views. I'm telling you, this fool makes more money off his sig than his actual sites. Mark my words.
so are you saying my screensht is false ? who do you trust on this board they can log into any of my sponsors stats RIGHT now and see. so unless i make 1/4 a mill on my sig then i say your fulll of shit..
anyone who doubts my authenticity has my authorization to verify those stats with nastydollars i posted , im not going to post every stat but you get the picture
i hereby authorize anyone from nastydollars to verify those numbers are correct to anyone who from gfy that asks ( that posts here first )
In this case, I don't trust anyone who you'd trust to look at your stats. Obviously you won't let them look, and they'll just come back here and post what you told them to post.
game set match.. btw you needn't get you panties in a bunch dude. i was just pointing out the futility of your original thread statement. Dont get all ofended i'm not
I dont claim to be anything more than i am. a guy who likes to help. thats it. im no better than many on the board. i dont claim to be anything im not . if you choose to hold me to a higher standard then thats your hangup
In this case, I don't trust anyone who you'd trust to look at your stats. Obviously you won't let them look, and they'll just come back here and post what you told them to post.
i just gave YOU authorization from any nastydollars staff to verify those numbers.. try reading.. you cant read my stats because your being a prick , but if you wanna ask nd ill give them permission to verify those numbers to you.. unless you dont trust nd..
When you fuck with peoples income you are asking for enough karma to fuck 3 generations of your family. Tell your great great grandkid it's your fault he lives in the ghetto.
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