To be honest before I realized how business works I was a good person and now this is turning me into a ferocious beast and I don't like it. So to answer your question I saw when he said on the log if things are not right he will make it right. I kept messaging him online after I saw things were not right. I also never got the site live. After a couple months I stopped messaging him and moved to other projects knowing I would come back to this project. I called him once and he said he would check on it. As months past he never called back, never gave me more messages. Its my fault for not keeping the pressure on him to make good on the deal I know that. But it shouldnt have to be my fault this should of been handled like a business back then and he doesnt care or something. Maybe I didnt spend enough money with him that's just speculation. Because a bunch of other people sticking up for him say "yeah we love the content blah blah" yeah maybe its because you spend $40,000 with him and you're his life line and I'm just spending 18k. The content is great which is why I went with him. Why he has the balls to say he doesnt even fuckin remember me when he went to PRAGUE for me is beyond me.

I bet you think this is complicated on my end. I don't mean to make it too complicated sometimes I have a problem explaining myself. There are other facts such as how he said he would re film the content as you can see in the log. A year past with no calls or messages but I messaged him and said "I am going to get the site live can I be reassured you will still shoot the content when I pick the girls I want' and his message back was 'OK'. I didnt think there was a problem when Im dealing with a good person. I thought Joe was cool and respectable and I just want what's mine.

I think it's 2

GFY=less paperwork

bump for you ry0t

The only way to do business with strangers on the Adult Net is money changes hands after delivery or charge it to your card. Especially on content

Too many times we see these threads.

As for taking it to court that has been answered many times.

Damn :/ that sucks

We do see this far too often.

On the topic of what Paul said:
I'll know this for the future. I'd like for you to tell me the outcome of what the answer is since the court topic has been answered many times? That's for my reference each case is unique of course.

Which one? There are alot below your message.:winkwink:

I guess it wasnt 50 sorry. Alright that was strange I guess it is 50.

owning money sucks... And not getting money you should have is even worse...

did anyone see teh dates if these ICQs ??

2003/2004 why wait till now.

Read my answers then you're allowed to type again. :upsidedow

Looks like you paid for his trip to Italy for the Olympics, as well as paying for his fat ass to get laid.

Sorry to hear he ripped you off.

Regardless of dates and all the other shit .. point is that he bought the content and didn't get it.

Who in their right mind shoots exclusive content and sends the originals to the client without making any backups.

THAT IS THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD.

He probably does have backups but may have sold that content to someone else so now he can't give it to you as exclusive and doesn't want to take the time to shoot all new stuff for you.

I really hope you get your money or the content. This is bullshit.

$5000 is a lot of money for stuff you didn't get. You have a lot more patience than me and good luck getting what you are owed.

Adam, there is WAY more to this story dude, don't believe everything you read on GFY

What's way more? What am I not explaining dude? The last package arrived with 4 scenes missing. Granted I waited a long time but don't think I didnt contact him every month for a long while with nothing done. Joe probably knows hes wrong he's offering me $3000 worth of content from amacontent but Im not accepting that bullshit. I want my $5000 or my 4 content scenes. He also says hes going to counter sue me for slander on this board when Ive done nothing but state the facts. Granted you cant believe everything you read on the board but not about this. I just want whats rightfully mine and right now Im getting fucked hard by this.

No matter who it is, or what it is about, I think it is silly for people to believe something that is one sided. My point is just that Joe doesn'tpost on here except to draw business, and for good reason, this place is filled with non-webmasters and barely any business at all....so him not posting has nothing to do with you, it has to do with not getting sucked into the drama of gfy....and for anyone to come in this thread and believe only a single side of something is just unprofessional and not a proper way of getting the full story

I suggest anyone that knows Joe's icq or email him and get his side of the story also

fact remains though, this is drama between Joe and you that needs to be settles in a court of law, and anyone interfering is just nosey or can't live without some daily drama....and well, that is just plain sad

I understand I can agree with you on these points you're actually right. The simple fact is that I wanted to spare myself court costs by trying to go public but now since this doesn't seem to be working I definitely need to go to court.

He doesnt have a side of the story though and Im sick of the bullshit that he tells me. He says he sent me the master tapes for all 7 and I got 3. Its bullshit and Im not going to put up with it any longer.

I agree 100%....I think anyone that claims to have been ripped off for that much money needs to be filing some sort of court docs....

More facts are that he shoots good content and people will probably still go about their normal business dealings with him. Nothing will probably change because of my thread. Thats why Im using common sense and not going around saying dont use joe he sucks he fucked me because that's stupid. that doesnt change the fact that im left here alone and i was screwed. And its my word against his that I recieved the one package with only 3 tapes. Although I do have proof he said he mailed two packages and fedex specifically said only one package was mailed.

I've done plenty of business with joe. he never wronged me. Could this posibly be a misunderstanding?

DUke

No and believe me I dont know why it has to be like this either. All that happened was I didnt get 4 scenes and he told me he would make it right and didnt.

Because I keep saying to him I only got 3 scenes and he keeps saying no I sent the 7 masters. But thats not true because I didnt recieve 7. But he doesnt want to believe me on that. Its also weird because he said two packages with 3 scenes and 4 scenes were sent. I got one package with 3 scenes. Fedex said only one package was shipped. Maybe he meant 2 packages within that one big package I dont know but all I know is I didnt get it and he's not doing anything for me but offering me $3000 worth of non exclusive content.

So where the hell is that chubby bitch.

ahhhh weekend afternoon drama!!!

I made a similar post a few weeks ago if you guys remember, and it got somewhat settled... so I hope this works out for you too ry0t!

I am not one to post in "drama" threads, but don't you state in your ICQ log that "someone" might have stolen it while it was at your door step? Just that possibility will give a Judge reason to not order Joe to pay you anything.:2 cents:

bottom line is that he didnt get hsi content, so he deserves his money back.

hmmm no reply yet?

He is online, he just contacted me on ICQ to tell me he's not chubby anymore.

What a special threatment, Ryot you paid for his diet bro. :pimp

Btw I put him on ignore. :1orglaugh

How do you know he didnt get his fucking content. Do you live next door to him. Are you his brother and happened to be there when he opened fed ex. DO you have cameras pointing at his house.

Ryot , send me invoices and cancelled checks and I will do what my attorney says.

And youre just full of hate because I fired you because of shitty product you delivered to me.

I can identify with that:Oh crap
I hope this gets resolved

You fired me? Now this is all new to me Joe. But then again, we all know you are full of lies. I quit working with you since you were such annoying person to deal with in the first place. :)

But keep on spreading the lies man.

were you a graphic designer for him? nice logos you got

2003????

Yeah i guess im annoying when i expect to get a design im happy with. You begged me to keep using you.