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Old 03-01-2006, 10:41 PM   #1
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Preparing for pandemic: know how to bury your dead

Man... WTF is this shit being posted @ reuters?


MINNEAPOLIS, Feb 15 (Reuters) - When burying a body in the backyard, don't put it too close to the septic system. That was one piece of advice offered on Wednesday to a business conference on preparing for a potentially lethal bird flu andemic.

Preparations for a global flu pandemic, which many experts believe is overdue, have begun but the grisly details are horrific and the number of sick could quickly overwhelm the health care system.

Needed supplies of even common medical supplies such as surgical masks and gloves are in doubt, not to mention the syringes needed for an as-yet undeveloped vaccine and costly mechanical ventilators.

The H5N1 avian flu virus that has infected flocks on at least three continents and killed 91 people could be the virus that experts fear will mutate into a highly pathogenic form that kills hundreds of millions of people in a matter of weeks or months.

In Seattle, public health officials are weighing the ramifications of hospitals overwhelmed by hundreds of thousands of sick people and the need for thousands of body bags.

"We talk about how people should bury their dead in their backyards, how far from the septic systems," said Dorothy Teeter, director of the King County public health department in Seattle. "In case you're wondering, it's $20 apiece for high-quality body bags. In New Orleans (after Hurricane Katrina) they had to double-bag bodies."

Refrigerated trucks will be needed to ship and store food and medicines and will not be available for corpses, a mistake made by federal authorities who commandeered trucks after Katrina, said James Caverly of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

Communicating the truth will be important to deter civil unrest, several experts told the conference. Up until six months ago, the Department of Health and Human Services was planning privately for a pandemic but saying little publicly, said communications consultant Peter Sandman.

The shift may be due to President George W. Bush reading John Barry's "The Great Influenza," an account of the 1918 influenza pandemic during which government assured the public that it was just another seasonal flu outbreak, Sandman said. At the time, Barry said many communities were brought to a near standstill, with people afraid to talk to each other or care for the sick.

"When you mislead people, when you over-reassure people ... they feel less trusting, and they behave much worse," Sandman said.

Conference participants from corporations, interest groups, and government met to discuss revising just-in-time supply concepts in order to stockpile, shutting down and restarting facilities in pandemic-hit countries, and cross-training employees and bringing back retirees to replace a significant portion of their employees that might become sick, decide not to come to work, or die. Continued ...

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Old 03-01-2006, 10:43 PM   #2
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Old 03-01-2006, 10:44 PM   #3
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OMG! Bird Flu's coming right for us! We gotta lock up our pets now too after a German Cat died from it...
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Old 03-01-2006, 10:48 PM   #5
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Shit, why i quitted smoking??... !!
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Old 03-01-2006, 10:58 PM   #6
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Shit, why i quitted smoking??... !!
I might take it up again :/

This is sooo not looking good. I have to agree with you Spunky, this might just be one of those threads that will have a whole different feel to it in a year or two from now.


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Old 03-01-2006, 11:06 PM   #7
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Damn, I just got over SARS but I can't go outside anyhow because of all the Killer Bees. I have Ramen noodles dropped off by plane so this shouldn't affect me.
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Old 03-01-2006, 11:09 PM   #8
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Man... WTF is this shit being posted @ reuters?
It's all bullshit. How can I tell?

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The shift may be due to President George W. Bush reading...
I call bullshit.
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Old 03-01-2006, 11:22 PM   #9
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Canned food, Plenty of bottled water & a motherfuckin AK-47

Fuck your gas masks, just stay inside till its over.
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Old 03-01-2006, 11:33 PM   #10
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Old 03-01-2006, 11:38 PM   #11
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Old 03-01-2006, 11:47 PM   #12
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Damn, I just got over SARS but I can't go outside anyhow because of all the Killer Bees. I have Ramen noodles dropped off by plane so this shouldn't affect me.
It's also amazing that we can even get online to discuss this horrible situation. I mean after the Y2K bug nearly destroyed civilization who would have thought we'd be where we are 6 years later?
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:14 AM   #13
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It's also amazing that we can even get online to discuss this horrible situation. I mean after the Y2K bug nearly destroyed civilization who would have thought we'd be where we are 6 years later?
Sometimes, however, things do go wrong. The Spanish Flu, WWI & II, Czernobyl, AIDS, 9/11, Vietnam, smoking turning out to cause cancer, the Great Depression - you would have been the guy who said "it's just a flu", "this war will be won in no time", "that Hitler guy isn't all that dangerous", "nuclear energy is perfectly safe", "it's just some exotic disease", "those islamic cavemen pose no threat", "we'll beat the backward commies in no time", "smoking is harmless", "it's just a small, temporary dip in the economy".

Think about that
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:17 AM   #14
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there's a good reason I've been stockpiling munitions for years... bring on the chaos!
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Sometimes, however, things do go wrong. The Spanish Flu, WWI & II, Czernobyl, AIDS, 9/11, Vietnam, smoking turning out to cause cancer, the Great Depression - you would have been the guy who said "it's just a flu", "this war will be won in no time", "that Hitler guy isn't all that dangerous", "nuclear energy is perfectly safe", "it's just some exotic disease", "those islamic cavemen pose no threat", "we'll beat the backward commies in no time", "smoking is harmless", "it's just a small, temporary dip in the economy".

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Think about this, there's not a fucking thing we can do! Well, I guess if you agree with grounding international flights, building a 20 foot wall around your borders, and dropping enough nukes to decinigrate any continent where animals carry this potentially dangerous virus into dust then there is something. Bullshit news articles put out to help sell bullshit surgical masks and Tamiflu don't help.

While we're doing the above we should also build a shield around the earth so those pesky meteors can't destroy civilization.

Of course, I prefer the hype so I can watch everyone running around screaming yet again about something that, even if true, cannot be stopped.
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:20 AM   #16
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P.S.S. There's a fucking hole in the ozone layer, we have 2 days to live!?!?!?
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Old 03-02-2006, 02:57 AM   #17
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You have a bigger chance being hit my a lightning than to get birdflu.
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Old 03-02-2006, 03:35 AM   #18
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Think about this, there's not a fucking thing we can do! Well, I guess if you agree with grounding international flights, building a 20 foot wall around your borders, and dropping enough nukes to decinigrate any continent where animals carry this potentially dangerous virus into dust then there is something. Bullshit news articles put out to help sell bullshit surgical masks and Tamiflu don't help.

While we're doing the above we should also build a shield around the earth so those pesky meteors can't destroy civilization.

Of course, I prefer the hype so I can watch everyone running around screaming yet again about something that, even if true, cannot be stopped.
Actually, there is quite a bit that can be done, such as vaccinating poultry, keeping poultry from coming into contact with wild birds, destroying birds in areas with outbreaks of the virus, warning people not to come into contact with potentially ill birds, quarantining infected humans, etc. Basically, there are loads of things that can be done.

Sure, it is impossible to prevent all problems, but in most cases, effective action can be taken.

Now I agree with you that there is little use in wild newspaper articles, but then again, in the face of dangers it is only natural for people to worry and have the desire to know about the threat. It's news, after all.
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You have a bigger chance being hit my a lightning than to get birdflu.
Right now, yes. However, the current situation isn't what people are fearing. What people are fearing is that the virus will evolve into one not only capable of infecting and killing humans, but also of being transmitted between humans.

In the event that that happens, it might kill tens or even hundreds of millions of people - giving you a really good chance of getting killed by it.
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fuck,i got chicken for today
Heating it well will eliminate any possible dangers of eating it - which are extremely small in the first place.
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Old 03-02-2006, 03:53 AM   #23
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damn shame they don't put people in jail for trying to spread bullshit
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that news is so scary and I think I should stop eating chicken for the meantime and start loving veges.
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damn shame they don't put people in jail for trying to spread bullshit
actually, i think they're trying to pass a law like that for serious issues
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