you hit the nail on the hat....but at the same time i think that his whole point
was more that nobody seems to know and use the possibility to do it. Especially
that you would think that this is something that a lot of programs would like
to do if they knew they could and/or how to do it.

It's something I run into a lot of times....documentation from third party
software seems always to be at least 3 versions behind....anything before
a third version usually comes with no manual at all.......Every single coder
I know hates documenting his stuff...they're either too busy, too lazy, or
simply can't realize that others don't understand their shit like them by
just looking at it.......the worst ones though are the ones that refuse to
document anything because without it they feel that their position is more
powerfull as without them to ask stuff their software would be useless
when it doesn't have a manual to go with it..... :thumbsup

Another reason may be they just keep bumping it simply for the fact that
even after a year they didn't get an answer which doesn't look too good
from a company that has the quite an important role and position for
so many people and programs that uses their software.......

My guess it's a mix of both.....but that's just my best guess :Oh crap

i'd tell TMM about this too so they can inform their clients about this and/or
add it to their knowledge base or faq :winkwink:

Other than the date sort, which I think can be added to the dump template, this is the same tool as the master gallery dump. With both you have to set the site and program.

I think, people are wanting a one click type option, select a program and get gallery codes for every site.

Doc,

Don't bother with ServerGenius. He seems to like to bash us left & right to try to drum up business for himself. He seems to be turning it up a notch lately too. Its kind of like the MCSE guys who knock Microsoft yet sell people their services. If thats what he needs to do I can live with it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you're very much mistaken Sir. I have nothing
against you or your products. I don't have business that competes with yours
so I have no interest or benefit bashing you or your products. It seems you
have a problem with anything anyone says or thinks about your products.

In fact it's rather the opposite. I have several clients that use your products
which means I work with it and know a thing or two about it. The better your
products are the easier and better it is for my business too. So if i gave you
the idea that I'm trying to bash your products than I assure right now that
that is a misunderstanding.

I'm actually working on something that could benefit your products instead
of hurting them. I'm doing this for my clients I would be more than happy
once it's ready to give it for free to you without any restrictions. If you
think some of your clients regardless if their also a client of my could benefit
from it could use it you're free todo so.....if you think it's crap just let me
know and delete it...I have no problem with that either.

If you consider my opinions or question I raise about your or other products
as a personal attack or ploy to gain personal benefit then you really are
wrong. If I make wrong or false statements please correct me and proof
me wrong.....it's possible that I'm wrong or mistaken at times as well.
Anything I mention is based on personal experience and if anything I only
address them so they can be improved.

Please show any of my posts where I say your software sucks and that
people shouldn't be using it....I'm sure I've never said something like that.
Today I posted a long post that basically the advantages of leasing or
buying third party software instead of developing something like affiliate
software in house from scratch.

I consider Nats and even Carma amongst the less than a handfull products
that are worth buying/leasing even if someone was capable of developing
something similar themselves as apart from a few disadvantages it has
for example the fact that instead of making something optimized and designed
for just doing the things that 1 company may need would be more efficient
than something like nats which is build to do all the different things that any
company would want which I'm sure you agree is a lot more complex as building
something fit for the requirements that a single company would want.

But that doesn't outweigh the benefits of still using your software because
for example that your software is improved and more secure because having
such amount of different people using it and analyzing all the data that
provided is worth imho than going through the process of trial and error
yourself before it would even come close to the quality of products like
yours.

So no I'm not out to bash you, no I don't have any benefit or personal gain
by doing so, Yes I consider your products amongst the top3 available in it's
kind......but if asked if it's perfect and if there's no room for improvement
then I say no..software is never perfect and never will be as long as it's
being used...there's ALWAYS room for improvement mainly because the
more it's being used the more people will try somehow to see if it can be
abuses....and especially that fact is one of many things that gives you the
edge...as it enables you guys to discover and adjust any weaknesses much
faster than someone who is a miniscule fraction of data to work with.

Whether you think I'm an asshole or not doesn't bother me at all....I just
wanted to explain that your opinion regarding anything I have said wasn't
meant to bash you or your business....if you think it is then that's fine with
me as by now I can be sure that it can't be caused by a misunderstanding.
I've noticed similar responses to others as well when anything about your
products was discussed.....seriously you should be happy that people talk
about it even if it's critical coz apart from the trolls and idiots it means
nothing more than that people care and question any concerns of problems
they experience which helps you to react quickly on it by either solving those
people their problems either by explaining them if they do something wrong,
informing them about features or methods they weren't aware off or worst
case to fix things when it really turns out to be something software wise
that causes errors or danger for getting exploited.

People who really believe your products suck don't use it and don't care
discussing it or any of it's problems as they simply wouldn't care. People
who have no other interest than bashing your products without solid
arguments or accusations made on thin air won't change the minds of anyone
that uses your products or is serious interested in becoming your clients. Any
of those educate themselves on a lot more and other information than by just
deciding not to use you because a few people post on GFY that you are
ugly as hell and that your software is shit because of that......if anyone
would really base his decision on that you're probably better off without
them anyway as people who have no clue what they buy and what to
expect are the ones that give you headaches and drive you nuts time after
time when having to try explain them the problem is their ignorance instead
of your product.

If you would have contacted me directly I wouldn't have posted this shit
here but since you mistakingly accused me publically and implying that I'm
trying to benefit myself by bashing and attempting to hurt your business
I decided to reply here in case other people misunderstood me too just
like you....

No offense meant and I hope this cleared up your opinion about me. If it
doesn't than I'm sorry about it but then I know I explained my intentions
and be sure that your opinion isn't based on a simple misunderstanding.
Feel free to contact me if you feel like it to answer or correct me in case
you feel I'm mistaking on something I have said. I'm open for discussion
or correction of any kind as long as I'm treated respectfully regardless if
we agree or not.

One last time...nothing in this post nor previous ones was intended in
any way you accused me for....if you show me wrong I'll gladly rectify
and apologize here publically for doing so.

:thumbsup

shit I have to figure out a way to get paid per word i post instead of by amount of posts I make :1orglaugh

I didn't even read all of this. I know you work with our products as I've heard Mike M. mention you several times. That is why I found it so odd you take all the little stabs at us for silly things.

I have no problem with people making constructive comments about our software. Recognizing our faults and correcting them is what has gotten us to where we are today.

I stopped paying attention to you when I noticed you take all the little jabs you could at us whenever you could such as the copyright date on our site. The silly little comments are a waste of time.

With I didn't read it I should also so I will in the morning. Just got in from a night out (for once) and not going to spend the rest of it on here :)

Just checked a MM email and allthough they might send the correct settings (pps, console free, etc) they don't send me UNencoded codes wich we have as a setting! So the whole email is still useless as we always use UNencoded nats codes. So that would be another thing to add to the todo list I asume?


See thats exactly what I mean, you say it is doable but you aren't saying anythign else. So you can do it but its not done yet? Meaning its not ready yet so basically thats a no on this option right?

Don't get me wrong just trying to work with the system and trying to give some ideas wich woudl be very handy for more webmasters.

Roald,

That sending you all FHG's by email with the correct revshare etc is possible...We do it actually:) However, the default campagin is selected..Most programs just don't send the FHG's with revshare/pps/ppc etc in one mail, because the mail would be very long...

It will look like

pps links
FHG1
FHG2

revshare
FHG1
FHG2

PPC
FHG1
FHG2

etc, when you have 100 galleries, it will mean, you get 300 url's in the mail...

What would be a nice feature, is that in the admin of nats, program owners can send out galleries to affiliates, to prices/programs that are currently in USE. When none of the programs are in use, revshare would be used as default(for example)

Hoopefully John is reading this, and won't ignore me, because I'm some sort of troll :D

I know it is possible to some way as I said already, MM is doing it but NOT and I repeat NOT in the UNencoded NATS form.

thnx for nothing you troll :upsidedow

It may be doable :) to have un-encoded codes within emails. I will hit up Wizzo to see what I can come up with. Nobody has asked me, so I haven't looked into it.

However, making it so it detects your code settings and making it auto build the codes in for the administrators would have to be coded in by nats directly.

Correct, the option isn't added yet. You can not dump all websites hosted galleries at once based on the program, that I am aware of at least.


I think NATS does a rather well job keeping up with webmaster and client requests. 3-4 major updates a year is pretty good. If they updated clients any quicker they wouldn't be able to stay up with the new features, hell sometimes I can't even stay up with everything that changes.

Just wondering, are you affiliated with NATS?

Just asking cause Johns reply gives me the idea all is doable but nothing is being done ;)))

Tell me if if this is what ur looking for:

To place this in the MAIL ADMIN for NATS:
URL of hosted gallery/?nats={$nats_code[p][s]}
Where the 'p' is the program ID and 's' is the site ID.

So thefore if u want to display all the links for Console-Free, and the program is 23 and the site u want to promote is XXX.com and the site id is 52 then ur link would be:
URL of hosted gallery/?nats={$nats_code[23][52]}

As far as unencoding it.... i think i can work on that, and try to test it out:
Simply do the same thing, but remember that it is case sensitive:
URL of hosted gallery/?nats={$nats_code}:programname:sitename

I haven't tested it, and since i do a lot in a day, hit me up and I can see if i can help:
168-431-167

I am the local nats lobbyist, for all sides :)

No, I am not affiliated with tmm. I am a consultant for many NATS clients and I have assisted NATS with different aspects of the software.

QuaShe this isn't a support board for TMM and you aren't even a client.

If a program or programs you are using isn't doing something you want them to do you need to speak with them about it and if they need help they can ask us for help.

I can't give you advice on how to fix a sponsor program.

NATS is not a hosted solution. It is also setup and utilized differently by the hundreds of sponsor programs using it. We can't just flip a switch and make them all do the same thing.

If you have a problem with a program please talk to them about it. If they want to do what you want and need help with it we're here for them.

Hopefully this explains why there is "no answer for a year" here. We're not ignoring you, its just not something that someone can just post an answer to.

Great ideas!!!

Wow, always that friendly? Webmasters often have to work with NATS, they give you input. What is wrong with that. Not only 'clients' should give you input, but also the ppl who USE nats as affiliates...:Oh crap

I'd also like the option to have descriptions included as well.

Agreed. Your clients' clients should be very important to you, esp in this industry. And esp high traffic clients like Freeones.

It wasn't meant to be in an unfriendly tone. People just like to read things here that way.

From what I get he's asking how to configure NATS. I don't think he quite understands how NATS works and I think he thinks we can do something on our end to make all the NATS programs work how he wants them to. That isn't how it works. The programs need to set things up. They all run individually. Its not a question we can just provide an answer to. If he wants something setup in a program the program has to ask us for help and we can help them.

Only thing I wanted to know is if it is possible for a program to do so without having to code anything. SO meaning that you guys have something like this ready for them.

Oh and this line: "QuaShe this isn't a support board for TMM and you aren't even a client." made me giggle a bit thinking about how much traffic we send to NATS programs. Meaning YOUR CLIENTS making money meaning YOU make money indirectly from us too ;)))

Tnx

If I was a programmer and working for you I could make the feautres I did post in my 1st post within 1 week.

After 1 and half year you still didn't do shit and even don't understand what we are requesting.

But hey we will work our way around it by RSS. It's just ridiculous that a program like NATS, who ask thousands of dollars per license, can't make something simple :2 cents:

Wow that woudl be an awesome addition!!!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Its very easy to write your own smarty code and make your own addons for nats, We have made a ton of additions to offer our affiliates plenty of differnt marketing tools and lin grabbers for nats

this is better... NATS is updating woot woot! :D congrats!

Those hundreds of programs we promote are not mine and I therefore can't write any codes for them. Furthermore first I request new features and get as answer that this will be added 1 day. Then I ask when the new features will be added and get as answer that they already exist. But in the end nothing has happend, except that I got 2 BS answers.

My advice to them is; just keep your mouth shut if you don't do anything. That's much better :2 cents:

have a nice day :)