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Old 02-27-2006, 01:05 AM   #1
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Selling my adult "Empire" and more: Domain, content, paysites, affiliate program etc.

I´m selling my adult sites because I have to much to do and other reasons which I will specify if you read through this post.

Domains:
adult-direct.com
babescollection.com
bdsm-sites.com
bdsmcollection.com
bizarcenter.com
bizarcentral.com
bizarcity.com
bizarcollection.com
bondagemoney.com
bondagepass.com
bondagetrack.com
extremecollection.com
fitnessarchive.com
glamourslaves.com
profemdom.com
spankingindex.com
tiedasians.com
voyeurdisplay.com

Affiliate/master Accounts:
Cybernetbucks.com
CCbill Affiliate Account
CCbill Master Accont
Ibill Master Account
Adultdatelinks
CyberAge Affiliate Account
+ some smaller ones not worth mentioning.

Software:
Custom made AVS system
Custom made Blog Software
Custom made Linkscript
Custom made software for adding links across the network.

Content:
About 25,000 pics licensed to most of the domains. 80% of them are bondage pictures. Worth: $15,000
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1 dedicated server with EV1servers.net
1 Virtual account at wizardweb.dk


Overview: You get 18 good domains, some regged back in 99. You get an fully working AVS site with affiliates and a members area that runs on auto. 4 Paysites with members areas running on auto. Custom software making sure things runs on auto. Licensed content. 1 good blog and a few smaller ones. About 30 free sites interlinked and linked with other external sites. Software that lets you add links across the network. 1 mainstream fitness site preloaded with 3500+ articles. These are just some of the highlights, read more here: http://www.bondagemoney.com/sale/

What I´m looking for: Someone to take over the entire package, including the hosting and master/affiliate accounts. Deal to made via escrow.com or payment before delivery.

MORE DETAILS HERE: http://www.bondagemoney.com/sale/
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Old 02-27-2006, 01:09 AM   #2
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i am missing a few things. What does this whole thing make right now a month gross? net?
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Old 02-27-2006, 01:16 AM   #4
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i am missing a few things. What does this whole thing make right now a month gross? net?
Currently about $7K, but i´m not selling based on monthly gross. This should be viewed as a package consisting of sites, graphic, content that can be used further for the undeveloped domains, software that can be resold. Affiliate database that can be cultivated (used to run on IBill, lost a lot of the affiliates when Ibill went bust and never had the time to get them over to CCbill, although some are now). Good domains that also have a value.
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Old 02-27-2006, 02:13 AM   #5
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I don't have money to buy It, but I mean too, that for selling something Is more important part, how much It make, so most details must be not about the "tech" and content things, but about the revenue
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not bad. So what is your asking price? 20k?
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Old 02-27-2006, 02:15 AM   #7
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and never had the time to get them over to CCbill
sorry, but your biz must be in the terrible state
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Old 02-27-2006, 02:57 AM   #8
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not bad. So what is your asking price? 20k?
Ahhh, No. It´s a lot higher.
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sorry, but your biz must be in the terrible state
No, but I only have 24 hours in day and a lot of mainstream do handle as well. The package is great from someone who has a little time do something about it.
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I don't have money to buy It, but I mean too, that for selling something Is more important part, how much It make, so most details must be not about the "tech" and content things, but about the revenue
It is not only about how much it makes, but how much it is capable to make. You can look at this as a content provider selling his content if that makes it easier. If someone can see the potential in these sites, I guess it will be worth more than the revenue
It is all what you do with it...
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Old 02-27-2006, 03:39 AM   #11
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It is not only about how much it makes, but how much it is capable to make. You can look at this as a content provider selling his content if that makes it easier. If someone can see the potential in these sites, I guess it will be worth more than the revenue
It is all what you do with it...
I agree, this network is $7K/month for 30 min. of work a day. The potential with just a little more work is tremendous. The whole thing is set up to go, if I had the time to "go", i would never sell it. Also, to the poster above saying 20K, why would I sell it for 20K when i just keep it for 3 months, put in 30 min. a day and get more than 20K?

An example: The fitnessarchive.com site has 3500+ articles loaded in the database ready to be posted, it´s got 2 backends and the whole setup. It doesn´t make anything, because I haven´t started developing any traffic for it. Traffic can be developed easy with the backends and daily maintance will be 3-4 minutes, you can post 3 article a day for 3,5 years working 3-4 minutes a day. But, right now the site doesn´t make anything does that mean that the site is worthless? I think not. And that´s just an example of one the sites, and you should also take into account the sites that does make money

Another example: Take the bondagepass.com site, it´s a fully developed AVS site with 100´s of sites in the database, hundreds of affiliates in the database. Get in touch with the affiliates and work them a little, perhaps make some new AVS sites yourself and you will see the thing take of. I had another AVS site back in 2001, at it´s peek it made me about $80K a month - this site could do the same if someone had the time cultivate the affiliates and put a little love into the site (which rebills amazingly).

Unfortunately, I don´t have the time to do that (read the reasons I posted earlier). Still, that doesn´t mean that I will give this package away (20K would be giving it away).
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Old 02-27-2006, 03:42 AM   #12
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And therehahaha180;s 4 paysites, doesnhahaha180;t make much right now, because ihahaha180;m the only one sending traffic, but you can consider them Turnkey sites or whatever, slap a webmaster page on the bondagemoney.com domain and start getting affiliates for the sites. Therehahaha180;s more to this that just how much the sites are making right now.
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Why don't you just hire someone at 50% of profit to handle it for you?
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Old 02-27-2006, 03:50 AM   #14
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Why don't you just hire someone at 50% of profit to handle it for you?
That´s an idea, but will require more time just managing the ideas. Besides, as I posted (here it is again):

Why am I selling: Let me start by telling you why i´m selling these "items", because I´m pretty sure the questions will come.

Professionaly: I´m working both adult (since 99) and regular mainstream webdesign. About a year ago, i made my own CMS koncept for smaller mainstream businesses and offers complete packages with graphics and support. At this point i´m getting more customers than i handle and that´s just from people contacting me directly because they heard about me from existing customers. When i started doing "interweb" in 1999 i intended to do mainstream webdesign for local businesses but soon found myself doing adult instead. Adult is doing great for me but i find it more satisfying to get "out" and actually talk to people and develop business relationsships, so doing mainstream works better for me at this point in my life. Besides, my adult sites takes to much of my time, but i still find that coming to GFY and other boards always gives me an excuse to do some more adult, because there are so many opportunities in adult. Therefore I need to cut down a little and concentrate more on the mainstream. There´s just not enough hours in day to do everything that I want to do.


Personally: I have a daughter who is 6 years old and i´m getting a son in April. I just got married and I just bought a new house, which we are moving into in 2 weeks. Getting the house and the new baby will take a lot more of my time and i would prefer to spend time with my children and wife instead of living in front of the PC. I´m not one of the people that tell my family about the adult sites i run, some do that, some don´t. I would like to look my children in the eyes and tell them what I do without having to lie to them. For that reason as well as the others mentioned, I have decided to sell some of my adult sites and domains (and 1 mainstream site)
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i hate this hahahaha shit

good luck with the sale man
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Old 02-27-2006, 04:10 AM   #17
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And therehahaha180;s 4 paysites, doesnhahaha180;t make much right now, because ihahaha180;m the only one sending traffic...Therehahaha180;s more to this that just how much the sites are making right now.
what is up with the hahahaha? Is there any banned words or something?
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Sometimes (not always) hahaha's happen with just apostrophes it's weird
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I agree, this network is $7K/month for 30 min. of work a day.
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...Besides, my adult sites takes to much of my time, ...
make up your mind.
keep the fucker if you can make $7k with 30 minutes per day.
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what is up with the hahahaha? Is there any banned words or something?
I think it is the contractions (spelling?) eg. if I want to contract Does and Not to Doesnt it becomes doesn´t
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keep the fucker if you can make $7k with 30 minutes per day.
I made up my mind, I want to sell but for the right price and 20K is not the right price. That would be bloody stupid since the content alone is $15K factor in about 6 months of income and development that is already in the package, you start getting to the right price.
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keep the fucker if you can make $7k with 30 minutes per day.
exactly. something tells me hes not making 7k with 30 mins a day.

So claude : post stats, ccbill screencaps, hits/ratios whatever. If you wanna sell for 20k+ you gotta be serious and post information.
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I think it is the contractions (spelling?) eg. if I want to contract Does and Not to Doesnt it becomes doesn´t
hmmm.. this time it didn´t do it.
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exactly. something tells me hes not making 7k with 30 mins a day.

So claude : post stats, ccbill screencaps, hits/ratios whatever. If you wanna sell for 20k+ you gotta be serious and post information.
Íf someone contacts me with a serious offer, I´ll be happy to show everything, including the content, a tour of the sites/scripts etc. Also, there´s more info here: http://www.bondagemoney.com/sale/

Here´s screenshot from one of the accounts (the largest from january and december).






That goes a long way toward 7K and there are other accounts, Ccbill, Cyberage, Adult Date Links, some rebills still coming from Ibill and some new ones because IBill blackmailed me into a settlement agreement.
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exactly. something tells me hes not making 7k with 30 mins a day.

So claude : post stats, ccbill screencaps, hits/ratios whatever. If you wanna sell for 20k+ you gotta be serious and post information.
You're right. I bet he pulled the entire figure out of his ass. That way when someone serious contacts him for the info they can see he's full of shit and tell him to stick it up his ass.

You negative fuckers piss me the fuck off.
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You're right. I bet he pulled the entire figure out of his ass. That way when someone serious contacts him for the info they can see he's full of shit and tell him to stick it up his ass.

You negative fuckers piss me the fuck off.
That was my first reaction as well, but then I was thinking: Well, this is GFY so it´s expected

I´ll show everything to a serious buyer, but I´ll not post the entire thing here. Anyone serious can contact me, the info is here: http://www.bondagemoney.com/sale/

I´ll have to leave the office now, got a meeting with customer. Will be back later.
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aff share? so your nett turnover is 7123 minus 4274 aff share? meaning you did less then 3k nett in Jan 2006.

Am I right? Sorry dunno these stats so you gotta help me.

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aff share? so your nett turnover is 7123 minus 4274 aff share? meaning you did less then 3k nett in Jan 2006.

Am I right? Sorry dunno these stats so you gotta help me.


That screenshot is from an affiliate account. In this case i earned 4274 (as an affiliate) from the cybernetbucks account. Add the earnings from the other accounts and you get to 7K a month.
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Just about to leave for a while, but I just totaled up the income for Jan & Feb. and it was $15,265 meaning $7,632,5 for each month. As I have said, ihahaha180;ll show everything to the right buyer who doesnhahaha180;t just look at the monthly income but the entire package. Offers such as 20K will not be considered.
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$100k for $7,000 a month in alleged revenue? You need to sell for what it's worth TODAY, not what you think someone else with the ability to promote it properly might make it worth. That's THIER value in it...not yours.
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Lol are you serious?

Also funny how ppl are selling because they can't look in the eyes of ppl when they do this kinda work..Oh well
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$100k for $7,000 a month in alleged revenue? You need to sell for what it's worth TODAY, not what you think someone else with the ability to promote it properly might make it worth. That's THIER value in it...not yours.
Yeah he should sell for 3 months revenue. Nevermind the content alone is worth most of that.
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OMFG youre kidding right? 100k. Dude if youre selling that for 100k lmk cause Id love to sell dutchteencash to the same person then for say 5 million.

Gotta love them golddiggers.
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OMFG youre kidding right? 100k. Dude if youre selling that for 100k lmk cause Id love to sell dutchteencash to the same person then for say 5 million.

Gotta love them golddiggers.
You are a funny guy. He's asking for barely over a year of revenue for a network with other things of value included and you think it's off the wall? If Dutch Teen Cash is making 4 million clear a year it would sell for 5 million pretty easily.
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Maybe it's cuz I just woke up - but am I the only one that remembers CybernetBucks.com? FuckingMachines.com and Hogtied.com - isn't that part of the program? Anyhow - I'm sure he'll get his price or extremely close to it.


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$100k for $7,000 a month in alleged revenue? You need to sell for what it's worth TODAY, not what you think someone else with the ability to promote it properly might make it worth. That's THIER value in it...not yours.
That´s your opinion, not mine. I know what it´s worth and judging from the emails I´m getting, so does at lot of other people.
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Hi Shuki, I got it. Getting to your questions now and will get back to you.
Shuki, I´m almost there with the screenshots and additional info. I´ll mail you back in about 1-2 hours.
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:44 AM   #46
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Lol are you serious?

Also funny how ppl are selling because they can't look in the eyes of ppl when they do this kinda work..Oh well
Serious as serious can be. Just because I don´t want to look my children in the eyes and tell them that I push porn, doesn´t mean that I should give this away.
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:46 AM   #47
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You're looking for buyers in the wrong place......try Ebay
Have considered that option and other boards, I tried GFY first and so far there´s a lot of interest from different people (and haters - not refering to you here DynaSpain). Thank you for the suggestion
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:47 AM   #48
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Claude, just a question - will you still be operating fuckingmachines & hogtied.com? (I realize it's not part of the deal - but wondering where those sites will be going)
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:48 AM   #49
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Turn on ICQ
Mine is on now, but you are probably directing that to DynaSpain ?
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:49 AM   #50
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Yeah he should sell for 3 months revenue. Nevermind the content alone is worth most of that.
yeah, selling for 3 month revenue would be plain stupid.
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