Business proposal : Paysite Owners Read This! - GoFuckYourself.com

boldy · 04-24-2002, 03:04 PM

I'm the creator and owner of http://www.freetgpsubmitter.com .
Currently the system sends like 100-150 galleries a day to 1000+ tgp sites.

Currently we have 1500+ webmasters signed up and 20% uses my system on dailly basis.

its a 'free' service, but i ask one banner or textlink on each gallery pages, all income made on these banners (100000 dailly) is mine. To make it more nice for my users i'm developing a service which is called 'revshare submitting'.

'RevShare submitting' is still my banner on the users' pages BUT with the users' revshare code attached to it.
I need aff. programs to work with me.

The users signs-up for your aff. program at my site (FTS - FreeTgpSubmitter) . Ofcourse your system have to know it came from FTS, and a special account is created on your system(a revshare account with a 33/33/33 split percentage). 1/3 for u, 1/3 for me and 1/3 for my user. Your system notifies me that a new user have signed up at your system, i verify and the user is ready to rumble.

This will create a FREE submitter, which makes money for free, using shared banners on the pages.

Hit me on ICQ 13605110 if you're interesed

Catalinas · 04-24-2002, 03:07 PM

$100,000 daily??

vidsweb · 04-24-2002, 03:10 PM

He must mean 100,000 hits a day

darksoft · 04-24-2002, 03:11 PM

Or you could pay $45 for G.A.S.S. and keep 100% of the revenue your gallery generates...

boldy · 04-24-2002, 03:11 PM

$100.000 a day, tha would be nice

100.000 banners send out every day ...

SleazyDream · 04-24-2002, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by boldy
$100.000 a day, tha would be nice

100.000 banners send out every day ...

sad

funkmaster · 04-24-2002, 03:14 PM

"Or you could pay $45 for G.A.S.S. and keep 100% of the revenue your gallery generates..."

... boldy took so much time and effort in his system ... and you just killed the dream ...

boldy · 04-24-2002, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by darksoft
Or you could pay $45 for G.A.S.S. and keep 100% of the revenue your gallery generates...

I think there's NOT 1 thread me starting a topic about FTS, without you breaking in 'gass rox, the rest sucks' . Didnt your mother gave you enough attention ?

Catalinas · 04-24-2002, 03:16 PM

As a paysite owner it's not that bad of a deal.. no work.. no bandwidth costs.. extra sales. I don't have an affiliate program at this point, but it'd be extra money..and that's not all bad. Well, except one thing, if it is 33/33/33 before fees, then the paysite owner is left with very little.

kmanrox · 04-24-2002, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by Catalinas
$100,000 daily??

lol... u funny

Catalinas · 04-24-2002, 03:21 PM

I was asking with my head cocked and my eyes rolling.. ; )

JConway · 04-24-2002, 03:38 PM

Yeah, $100,000?

boldy · 04-24-2002, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Catalinas
As a paysite owner it's not that bad of a deal.. no work.. no bandwidth costs.. extra sales. I don't have an affiliate program at this point, but it'd be extra money..and that's not all bad. Well, except one thing, if it is 33/33/33 before fees, then the paysite owner is left with very little.

a 50/25/25 split will work for you ?

Catalinas · 04-24-2002, 06:56 PM

I think that's fair, I would do it.

Kimmykim · 04-24-2002, 07:27 PM

Could be set up for sites CCBill processes using our standard setup btw...

darksoft · 04-24-2002, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boldy

I think there's NOT 1 thread me starting a topic about FTS, without you breaking in 'gass rox, the rest sucks' . Didnt your mother gave you enough attention ?

I think your eyesight needs adjusting. Not once did I ever say G.A.S.S. rox and the rest sucks. In fact, I don't recall EVER blatently slamming ANY product by name in ANY post I have ever made.

But you didn't expect me to pass this by tho did you? I mean, I could mention how something that has free in the name and is touted as being free really ISN'T, but I would never bring that up...

I was merely expressing MY opinion. :D

Snake Doctor · 04-24-2002, 11:26 PM

Let me get this straight.

Russian submitter costs about $25 a month.

TGSW plus one year of updates costs less than $300, or about $25 a month.

You have a *ahem* "Free" TGP submitter and you want a 33/33/33 split with the sponsors and the gallery submitter. Which means the gallery builder gets a 33% cut instead of a 60-70% cut from the sponsor, basically cutting their income in half.

So unless the people who use your system make less than $50 a month off of their galleries, or have incredibly substandard math skills, I don't see how anyone would use your *ahem* "free" submitter over the two I mentioned above.

bhutocracy · 04-24-2002, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by Lenny2
Let me get this straight.

Russian submitter costs about $25 a month.

TGSW plus one year of updates costs less than $300, or about $25 a month.

You have a *ahem* "Free" TGP submitter and you want a 33/33/33 split with the sponsors and the gallery submitter. Which means the gallery builder gets a 33% cut instead of a 60-70% cut from the sponsor, basically cutting their income in half.

So unless the people who use your system make less than $50 a month off of their galleries, or have incredibly substandard math skills, I don't see how anyone would use your *ahem* "free" submitter over the two I mentioned above.

it's just a 33% cut on ONE obligatory banner on the TGP page.. which is 33% they're not currently getting.... it's not 33% of the profits made from all the banners on the page.

boldy · 04-25-2002, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
Let me get this straight.

Russian submitter costs about $25 a month.

TGSW plus one year of updates costs less than $300, or about $25 a month.

You have a *ahem* "Free" TGP submitter and you want a 33/33/33 split with the sponsors and the gallery submitter. Which means the gallery builder gets a 33% cut instead of a 60-70% cut from the sponsor, basically cutting their income in half.

So unless the people who use your system make less than $50 a month off of their galleries, or have incredibly substandard math skills, I don't see how anyone would use your *ahem* "free" submitter over the two I mentioned above.

lenny2 you got it wrong. Currently i put 1 banner on the top of the pages which is mine. The rest of the banner income on the pages is still going to the submitter.

Anyway, i can see why people use my system:

1. Its free to use. Okay one banner on the page, thats it. Anyway i dont see any difference with these so called free-hosts. Fuck with your traffic, and zillions of penispills ads on your page. Still 10000's peeps using free-hosts.

2. I think its a great system to start with, if a newbie and dont want to spend to much money to begin with. If the users are satisfied with my product, they still can buy a monthly subscription, bannerless, $15 a month.

3. We have public submissions, others can post your galleries. Using our scheduler, autoconfirmer (which is at smtp level, no crappy windblows application) and public submitter, people can go on vacation and still submit everyday. Plus there's a recip autoupdater.

4. i'm running 2 month now. And 1500+ subscriptions, so I think there is a reason to use FTS.

Thats my opinion, and i wrote the shit ofcouse

codecrawler · 04-25-2002, 02:58 AM

Not only newbies Boldy

I use it since day one, and it works like a charm.

As I said on my own board every submitter(be it automatic, semi automatic or whatever) has it's strong and weak points.

If you use the strong features you stand for a lot of cash.

For example:

FTS: for all regular submissions and offcourse the credit system which allows my galleries to be submitted even when I don't have time to manage it.

TGSW: Fuck the database it allows you to create your own so I use it to submit to the big ones I entered manualy and offcourse my partner accounts.

Adulthitkit + Shavenferret: good for the no recip subs.

All combined I get hours of submitting done in minutes and over 300k daily to my galleries.

That's not counting the 15k I get to my TGP2 galleries (Submitted with FTS and AHK)

So you bet I'm a happy camper

Now a little note of critisism Boldy:

Now you get a banner on a gallery why not get it all with revshare subs?

Simplified example:

You use sponsor
FTS revshare user signs up under you
FTS revshare user submits galleries promoting that sponsor.

You receive a % of every sale made while the revshare user still get's the full ammount.

You both make $$$ so both are happy.

Now do this example times an X ammount of sponsors offering webmaster ref. cash and do the math ;)

The above has a few advantages over the banner at the top the submitter ads now:

1 without it the gallery looks better and gets accepted more on TGP's

2 With a whole revshare gallery the gallerybuilder can easier make a sale then you can with one banner

3 You both get paid the full monthy ;)

4 It will make your users a lot happier

My

CC

mule · 04-25-2002, 03:57 AM

I just registered, and it seems like a good solid program. It'll definitely help my lazy ass to get some galleries submitted

Snake Doctor · 04-25-2002, 10:55 AM

My mistake.
I thought it was one third of the whole page.

I guess you could call that free. Free submissions in exchange for ad space, they still call them "free hosts" right? LOL

I might have to check out the bannerless deal for $15 a month

SABAI · 04-25-2002, 11:35 AM

codecrawler had given the best idea...i think this would be the best solution for everyone

boldy · 04-25-2002, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI
codecrawler had given the best idea...i think this would be the best solution for everyone

It would be a nice option, i'll have to re-program my whole core system. Anyway, i'll think about it.

Dreamman010 · 04-25-2002, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boldy
Ofcourse your system have to know it came from FTS, and a special account is created on your system(a revshare account with a 33/33/33 split percentage).

Where does the %1 go to?

Steve · 04-25-2002, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by Dreamman010

Where does the %1 go to?

It goes to the Leader, of course!

boldy · 04-25-2002, 02:39 PM

/dev/null ofcourse... and my savings account. Maybe one day i can buy an GFY shirt

SNOW · 04-26-2002, 12:13 AM

Codecrawler contact me..

codecrawler · 04-26-2002, 12:27 AM

Snow: ya got mail

Boldy:

Maybe this is a stupid remark, cause I don't know how you coded the submitter, but to me it seems you allready have the foundation for such an option ready to go.

You allready offer bannerless submissions for a monthly fee.

So IMHO all you have to do is take that option add a check to it when people upload the galleries in the submitter to crosscheck the ref codes used on it with what you have on file (a small sql database would do it)

Saves ya a lot of time policing it and only makes the upload a few seconds slower. BUT saves saves you a whole lot of reprogramming ;)

My

CC

boldy · 04-26-2002, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by codecrawler
Boldy:

Maybe this is a stupid remark, cause I don't know how you coded the submitter, but to me it seems you allready have the foundation for such an option ready to go.

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I cant remember how i did it... But i know i HAVE to rewrite some modules. Database avg +/- 500 queries a second

Anyway, i really like your idea, and take it in consideration...

First i have to do some math ...

L8er

B.

04-24-2002, 03:04 PM	#1
boldy Macdaddy coder Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: MacDaddy pimp coder Posts: 2,806	Business proposal : Paysite Owners Read This! I'm the creator and owner of http://www.freetgpsubmitter.com . Currently the system sends like 100-150 galleries a day to 1000+ tgp sites. Currently we have 1500+ webmasters signed up and 20% uses my system on dailly basis. its a 'free' service, but i ask one banner or textlink on each gallery pages, all income made on these banners (100000 dailly) is mine. To make it more nice for my users i'm developing a service which is called 'revshare submitting'. 'RevShare submitting' is still my banner on the users' pages BUT with the users' revshare code attached to it. I need aff. programs to work with me. The users signs-up for your aff. program at my site (FTS - FreeTgpSubmitter) . Ofcourse your system have to know it came from FTS, and a special account is created on your system(a revshare account with a 33/33/33 split percentage). 1/3 for u, 1/3 for me and 1/3 for my user. Your system notifies me that a new user have signed up at your system, i verify and the user is ready to rumble. This will create a FREE submitter, which makes money for free, using shared banners on the pages. Hit me on ICQ 13605110 if you're interesed __________________ MacDaddy Coder.

04-24-2002, 03:11 PM	#5
boldy Macdaddy coder Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: MacDaddy pimp coder Posts: 2,806	$100.000 a day, tha would be nice 100.000 banners send out every day ... __________________ MacDaddy Coder.

04-24-2002, 11:26 PM	#17
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Let me get this straight. Russian submitter costs about $25 a month. TGSW plus one year of updates costs less than $300, or about $25 a month. You have a ahem "Free" TGP submitter and you want a 33/33/33 split with the sponsors and the gallery submitter. Which means the gallery builder gets a 33% cut instead of a 60-70% cut from the sponsor, basically cutting their income in half. So unless the people who use your system make less than $50 a month off of their galleries, or have incredibly substandard math skills, I don't see how anyone would use your ahem "free" submitter over the two I mentioned above. __________________ sig too big

04-25-2002, 02:58 AM	#20
codecrawler Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: wolfshade's basement Posts: 297	Not only newbies Boldy I use it since day one, and it works like a charm. As I said on my own board every submitter(be it automatic, semi automatic or whatever) has it's strong and weak points. If you use the strong features you stand for a lot of cash. For example: FTS: for all regular submissions and offcourse the credit system which allows my galleries to be submitted even when I don't have time to manage it. TGSW: Fuck the database it allows you to create your own so I use it to submit to the big ones I entered manualy and offcourse my partner accounts. Adulthitkit + Shavenferret: good for the no recip subs. All combined I get hours of submitting done in minutes and over 300k daily to my galleries. That's not counting the 15k I get to my TGP2 galleries (Submitted with FTS and AHK) So you bet I'm a happy camper Now a little note of critisism Boldy: Now you get a banner on a gallery why not get it all with revshare subs? Simplified example: You use sponsor FTS revshare user signs up under you FTS revshare user submits galleries promoting that sponsor. You receive a % of every sale made while the revshare user still get's the full ammount. You both make $$$ so both are happy. Now do this example times an X ammount of sponsors offering webmaster ref. cash and do the math ;) The above has a few advantages over the banner at the top the submitter ads now: 1 without it the gallery looks better and gets accepted more on TGP's 2 With a whole revshare gallery the gallerybuilder can easier make a sale then you can with one banner 3 You both get paid the full monthy ;) 4 It will make your users a lot happier My CC __________________ WE ARE TGP2 RESISTANCE IS FUTILE YOU WILL BE CONVERTED!!! Last edited by codecrawler; 04-25-2002 at 03:02 AM..

04-25-2002, 03:57 AM	#21
mule Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: hamsterdam Posts: 6,085	I just registered, and it seems like a good solid program. It'll definitely help my lazy ass to get some galleries submitted __________________ Converting like a mofo

04-24-2002, 03:07 PM	#2
Catalinas Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 346	$100,000 daily??

04-24-2002, 03:10 PM	#3
vidsweb Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pornland Posts: 698	He must mean 100,000 hits a day

04-24-2002, 03:11 PM	#4
darksoft Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: BumFuck Ohio Posts: 768	Or you could pay $45 for G.A.S.S. and keep 100% of the revenue your gallery generates...

04-24-2002, 03:14 PM	#7
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"Or you could pay $45 for G.A.S.S. and keep 100% of the revenue your gallery generates..." ... boldy took so much time and effort in his system ... and you just killed the dream ...

04-24-2002, 03:16 PM	#9
Catalinas Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 346	As a paysite owner it's not that bad of a deal.. no work.. no bandwidth costs.. extra sales. I don't have an affiliate program at this point, but it'd be extra money..and that's not all bad. Well, except one thing, if it is 33/33/33 before fees, then the paysite owner is left with very little.

04-24-2002, 03:21 PM	#11
Catalinas Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 346	I was asking with my head cocked and my eyes rolling.. ; )

04-24-2002, 03:38 PM	#12
JConway Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 594	Yeah, $100,000?

04-24-2002, 06:56 PM	#14
Catalinas Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 346	I think that's fair, I would do it.

04-24-2002, 07:27 PM	#15
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Could be set up for sites CCBill processes using our standard setup btw...

04-25-2002, 10:55 AM	#22
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	My mistake. I thought it was one third of the whole page. I guess you could call that free. Free submissions in exchange for ad space, they still call them "free hosts" right? LOL I might have to check out the bannerless deal for $15 a month __________________ sig too big

04-25-2002, 11:35 AM	#23
SABAI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: footmaniac.com Posts: 2,880	codecrawler had given the best idea...i think this would be the best solution for everyone __________________

04-25-2002, 02:39 PM	#27
boldy Macdaddy coder Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: MacDaddy pimp coder Posts: 2,806	/dev/null ofcourse... and my savings account. Maybe one day i can buy an GFY shirt __________________ MacDaddy Coder.

04-26-2002, 12:13 AM	#28
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	Codecrawler contact me..

04-26-2002, 12:27 AM	#29
codecrawler Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: wolfshade's basement Posts: 297	Snow: ya got mail Boldy: Maybe this is a stupid remark, cause I don't know how you coded the submitter, but to me it seems you allready have the foundation for such an option ready to go. You allready offer bannerless submissions for a monthly fee. So IMHO all you have to do is take that option add a check to it when people upload the galleries in the submitter to crosscheck the ref codes used on it with what you have on file (a small sql database would do it) Saves ya a lot of time policing it and only makes the upload a few seconds slower. BUT saves saves you a whole lot of reprogramming ;) My CC __________________ WE ARE TGP2 RESISTANCE IS FUTILE YOU WILL BE CONVERTED!!!