fucking asshole drivers

[ldinternet]

TWICE today, entering to motorway, the asshole in front of me broke suddenly to a halt on the slip road for no reason. one guy in a ford sierra, another in a volkswagon.

i mean, twice, what the fuck?

the first guy in the sierra. he went from like 65 down to 0 in only a few seconds. i wasn't even close behind him, but whilst he slams on the breaks as hard as he can near the bottom of the slip road, for no reason (no debris on the road, clear traffic, easy entry, dry conditions), i had to swerve onto the motorway across two lanes (i was still going 65 off of the slip road) to avoid him. good job it wasn't busy... the fucking clown.

the second guy in the volkswagon slowed suddenly to a crawl at the bottom slip road, forcing me to brake as hard as i could to prevent from running into the back of him. again, i wasn't even driving close, but i'm not expecting some asshole on a clear stretch of road, going almost 70mph, at 11pm to just break suddenly at the bottom of the slip for no reason. the traffic was clear. by this time i was major pissed. he tried speeding off uphill on the motorway but my saxo goes like the wind in 3rd gear. i managed to remember his plate number so i'm definately going to report the asshole. whether the cops do anything about it is another matter... but, whatever helps.

has someone got a hit on me? is this some kind of new insurance scam, trying to get the fucker behind to slam into the back of the car?

[JesterUK]

Opppssss sorry mate!

[burn]

Dumb fucking drivers piss me off more than anything. These people that pull out in front of people and drive half ass need there heads crushed in with a bat.

Don't even get me started on these assholes that drive while talking on the cell phones.

[ldinternet]

seems that some people can't just drive up to a red light and stop like a normal person would.

there's always someone that has to start breaking like a hundred metres before they even reach the lights (especially true at the end of a dual carriageway), and the other breed of asshole that slows to a crawl about 20 metres from a red light, then creeps to the lights for another 20 metres at like 2mph.

[3Jane]

Never underestimate the power of the moronic driver(s).

[yys]

whats a slip road?

[Forkbeard]

there's always someone that has to start breaking like a hundred metres before they even reach the lights

Hey, that's me!

I was taught to do this as a money saving technique. The abrupt braking from high speed used by most drivers is very expensive in brake shoes, pads, drums, and discs. Gentler braking doubles or triples the life of your brake system.

Gentle braking is also safer defensive driving. If my brake lights come on several seconds before my vehicle seriously begins to slow down, it helps alert the snoozing guy behind me that there's a stop light coming up. In other words, it reduces the chance that some moron will ram me from behind.

[ldinternet]

it also causes traffic behind to crawl.

breaking gently is all well and good... i was taught to break as softly as possible. but when i say 100 metres at the end of a dual carriageway, i'm not kidding.

[Forkbeard]

it also causes traffic behind to crawl.

To me, that's a good thing. In the USA, at least, virtually all congested traffic is moving ten to twenty miles an hour faster than is safe.

But I think "dual carriageway" is a Britishism -- I dunno what that is. So maybe 100 yards is too early when driving on one, can't say. :-)

[ausboy]

Typical, a driver calling others a moron is the one who was driving like one.......

If you were driving defensively, what these other drivers were doing would not have mattered because you would have been:
a) maintaining a safe distance between your self and the other driver.
b) not speeding.
c) not playing with sound system/phone.

If you plow into someone's rear end then the fault is ALL yours for driving aggresively, whether the driver in front was being a moron or not.

And for the "I said I was travelling a fair way behind" comeback....

. i wasn't even close behind him, but whilst he slams on the breaks as hard as he can near the bottom of the slip road, for no reason (no debris on the road, clear traffic, easy entry, dry conditions), i had to swerve onto the motorway across two lanes (i was still going 65 off of the slip road) to avoid him.

....get your POS car off the road til you get your brakes fixed then.

[hyper]

i am so tempted to slam on the brakes when these assholes drive right on my tail.

After all it would be their fault, just really dont want to have my truck totalled, although it is worth double what i paid for it

[Amputate Your Head]

whatta you expect from someone who in all reality, got a license for five bucks and zero effort..... welcome to America. We issue license to any dumbass that comes along with a $5 dollar bill. And as soon as they get it in their hot little hands, they suddenly think they're fucking special.

[hyper]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
whatta you expect from someone who in all reality, got a license for five bucks and zero effort..... welcome to America. We issue license to any dumbass that comes along with a $5 dollar bill. And as soon as they get it in their hot little hands, they suddenly think they're fucking special.

$5
it's like $80 here in ma
15 for the learner permit $25 for the roadtest and $40 for the license

[JFPdude]

280 dollars for a commercial CDL in mass too

Thank god I moved to the sticks of PA where it's 64 dollars

[bunky]

10 bucks here for a reguler license. a cdl is 10/year and a motorcycle is 10 hehe cheap state i reckon I WANT A LOTTERY HERE!


bunky

[Amputate Your Head]

my commercial here in Cali ran me right at about $150.... full endorsements, motorcycle included.

[hyper]

Originally posted by bunky
10 bucks here for a reguler license. a cdl is 10/year and a motorcycle is 10 hehe cheap state i reckon I WANT A LOTTERY HERE!


bunky

we can thank the "Big Dig" for that shit here

[ldinternet]

huh?

i had 56 lessons here before i applied for the test, and passed 1st time (after passing the theory) with 2 minor faults... that is, not checking the wing mirrors on a roundabout, and not checking the mirror enough at a junction. the average here is 9 minor faults. i know when i'm driving to close, and i sure wasn't driving too close. why would i report this down at the station if i was driving too close? i fucking hate people that drive too close.

don't forget that a slip road is only short, but the intention of it is to gain the same speed as the traffic moving on the motorway. at least thats what i was taught... and i passed my theory test on that basis. down the slip road, maintaining a good distance from the car in front, going 60 to 70 on entrance (i.e, using the slip road for what it has been made for) it is still required for a driver to check their blind spot on entrance to make sure the road is clear...

the two second rule states that someone should be at least 2 seconds away from the car in front at all times... but don't forget, taking a good look over the shoulder takes about 1 to 2 seconds on entrance to the motorway to check the blind spot. if i was driving too close, after looking back from over my shoulder, then i would have been in the back of the guy.

imagine you're driving at 70, and driving at a good distance from the guy in front. you look over the shoulder to check your blind spot for a second, and when you look back, the guy in front of you has slammed his brakes on and stopped near dead in your path. if you were driving too close in the first place, then you'll be in his ass. if you were a fair distance, as i was, you'll not be quite in his ass after looking back, but you'll be pretty close to him and approaching pretty fast. by the time you look back from over your shoulder, the foot won't even be on the brake yet. stationary shit approaches fast when you're on the motorway. don't forget, you're still doing 70... you'll need to swerve to avoid the stopped fucker in front. try and imagine it when you're out on the road.

as for the car's brakes... the car is brand new, only 700 miles on the clock so far. they DO test this shit before they put it out on the road, you know.

[ausboy]

O brother, how the hell did you pass a license test?

A safe distance is NOT 2 seconds' gap, it is a gap large enough to allow you adequate stopping distance in the prevailing conditions.
This includes weather, road conditions and surrounding traffic.

There's a good reason so many kids get buried because of car accidents, understanding/obeying the rules theoretically and applying them practically are 2 very different things.

as for the car's brakes... the car is brand new, only 700 miles on the clock so far. they DO test this shit before they put it out on the road, you know.

No, really? 2 points:

You wouldn't have even bedded the fuckin things in yet, of course if you're slamming the brakes on all the time because you have no idea how to drive, they're already fucked.

If you are running the standard factory shit on your car, unless it's a real exotic, go and change it now. Brakes and suspension especially.

[ldinternet]

"Definition: The minimum distance that should be kept between two vehicles traveling in the same direction on the same road. When the vehicle ahead passes a road marker or sign, the car behind it should pass the same marker or sign roughly two seconds later. In the case of poor road conditions the time lapse should be three or four seconds. "

in dry conditions as they are, it is a fact, the safe minimum distance is indeed two seconds to be safe.

checking the blind spot is going to take 1 to 2 seconds. the average human response to any stimulus is 1 second, before the brakes are in action. meaning that i was at least 3 seconds away, and if i would have been exactly 3 seconds away then i would have hit the guy. the fact that i didn't means that i was more than 3 seconds away... besides the fact that i had to hit the brake an then swerve, i was at least 5 seconds away from the guy. moving at 65 mph is the same as moving at 95 feet per second. being 1 second behind the guy in front means being 95 feet away. being 2 seconds away, the minimum, is being 190 feet away. being that i was a minimum of 3 metres away (otherwise i would have hit the guy), means that i was at least 285 feet away.

being more than 3 seconds away means that i was at least 4 to 5 seconds away from the guy. any less and i would have hit him. being 5 seconds away is being approximately 450 feet away from him.

that means i was driving 135 metres behind him. the facts are there... 135 metres is not close, d00d. consider that there are 3 seconds shaved off of that and it'll be only 2 seconds before i'm in his ass. i've got 2 seconds to slow down and swerve. he sure stopped fast, but he did not decelerate slowly (his deceleration was not equal to mine... but much faster, as he did not have to account for reaction time nor observation), nor uniformly, and was most certainly going 0 to 5 mph by the time i started to brake.

[ausboy]

Originally posted by ausboy
A safe distance is NOT 2 seconds' gap, it is a gap large enough to allow you adequate stopping distance in the prevailing conditions.
This includes weather, road conditions and surrounding traffic.

Your maths means nothing, you nearly hit the guy, you were following too close for the conditions..... surely it isn't that hard to understand?

[VeriSexy]

Old people scar me the most. I got side swiped by some old lady. I noticed it at the very last second. She suddenly moved right into my lane when I was right beside her. (Didn't check her blind spot) I thought it was ok cause I thought I stopped in time. Major skidding happened and no crunch sound so I kept driving and pulled over and found millions of tiny scratches on my clear coat. No paint scrapped off so I think I buffed most of them out.

STAY AWAY FROM OLD PEOPLE!!!

[ldinternet]

being 135 metres away is not following too close. a combination of me following the correct procedure to check the blind spot on entrance, and of his incorrect driving procedure (there is no stopping on a slip road) is what brought me too close to him.

he is the one at fault here... may i remind you that there is NO stopping on a slip road (this is clearly marked on entrance by a blue circle with red outline and red crosses), and this rule is in place for a reason. broken down? broke down drivers don't slam on the brakes to stop dead in the path of oncoming traffic. they put on the warning lights and move to the side of the road. the fact is that he stopped intentionally. the guy at the desk in the station had no problem in making a "record" of my report, and took the reg number off of me for the VW which i had written in case i forgot... after explaining the mathematics of the situation at the desk (studying advanced level physics for two years helps), we were in agreement that i was not at fault, otherwise the situation would have been a whole lot worse. no stopping on an entrance road, period.

[ausboy]

You don't seem to understand this, the math means fuck all, drive by theory and you will die, quite simple. Theory doesn't include irrational acts by other drivers, and who gives a flying fuck if you were right if you're dead?

I quoted this:
A safe distance is NOT 2 seconds' gap, it is a gap large enough to allow you adequate stopping distance in the prevailing conditions.
This includes weather, road conditions and surrounding traffic.

You keep missing this:
This includes weather, road conditions and surrounding traffic.

You took your eye off the most important car on the road relative to you, the one you nearly hit........
Now had you been driving for some years you would damn well know that at least 50% of people have no idea that a slip road allow them to match speed with, then merge into the traffic. They think it gives them time to stop to check traffic.

You nearly hit the car infront of you, because you did not pay attention to the surrounding traffic. You were to close to allow you time to check your blindspot, and stop if you had to.

Had you hit that car that was stopping to check traffic, damn right you would have been in the wrong.

[DigitalPimpShit]

Come to south Florida....this where for six months out of the year, every old person from around the U.S. comes to escape the cold. Every one of them drives a big car and can't see over the dashboard. They all drive 20 in a 40, 40 in a 70, its obserd. I used to work in a "retirement community" called Century Village, which is like a big apartment complex, and they average 3 to 5 accidents a day inside the village.

[Rip]

Where do you all live, I wanna send some bad drivers, to you from here, we have too many here already

[ldinternet]

Originally posted by ausboy
You keep missing this:
This includes weather, road conditions and surrounding traffic.

Originally posted by ldinternet
no debris on the road, clear traffic, easy entry, dry conditions

* ahem * ...

the road was near empty, which is just as well. also you don't seem to know that british roads are not ever so wide... just because one side of the road has two lanes, doesn't mean that it is possible to fit two cars down there.

i was 135 metres away from the guy, maybe more. how fucking far away can a person be? the bottom of the slip road where it connects to the motorway is long for a reason, that is, a person is meant to drive along the bottom of the slip road until they can fit into the traffic. clear traffic, there is no reason to stop at the top of the part where the slip road merges with motorway. he didn't slow down, he stopped hard. its a slip road, clear traffic, NO stopping at all. exactly why the interconnecting part of the slip road is long. this incident shows why a slip road is a NO stopping zone. why else would it be a no stopping zone? yet he found a reason to slam on his brakes and stop.

[fantasyc]

I am suposed to wear glasses just to drive and when I went in to take my driving test, they actually helped me cheat on the eye exam! The US have some awful drivers. Just the other day, a two men were having a spat on the freeway and one guy shot the other in the face.