BYOT is just AVS in disguise.

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  • Pornwolf
    Drunk and Unruly
    • Jan 2002
    • 22712

    #1

    BYOT is just AVS in disguise.

    Over the years I have seen a lot of people knock AVS. I see these same people happy about BYOT programs.

    Isn't it really the same thing?
    I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

    Webair, bitches.
  • SomeCreep
    :glugglug
    • Mar 2003
    • 26118

    #2
    Originally posted by Pornwolf
    Over the years I have seen a lot of people knock AVS. I see these same people happy about BYOT programs.

    Isn't it really the same thing?
    Not at all, why do you consider it the same thing?

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    • After Shock Media
      It's coming look busy
      • Mar 2001
      • 35299

      #3
      AVS you bring your own tour and content areas.
      BYOT is typically a generated tour someone creates that promotes a sponsor controlled back end.

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      • Manowar
        jellyfish  
        • Dec 2003
        • 71528

        #4
        they are similar, not the same though

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        • chadglni
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2002
          • 6924

          #5
          You are comparing apples and bobsleds.


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          • $5 submissions
            I help you SUCCEED
            • Nov 2003
            • 32195

            #6
            BYOTs kick ass.

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            • baddog
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2001
              • 107089

              #7
              not quite the same

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              • Pornwolf
                Drunk and Unruly
                • Jan 2002
                • 22712

                #8
                Building the AVS tour & backend takes about the same amount of work building a decent BYOT. At the end of the day with both all you are doing is building a front end for the larger backend network that is full of sites and plugins.

                Both have programs where you can get paid if someone sends a sale through your site.

                I just don't see why people piss on AVS but pledge thier love for BYOT. It's the same thing.
                I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                Webair, bitches.

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                • czarina
                  Webmaster Extraordinaire
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 10752

                  #9
                  there is nothing similar about them. With BYOT you simply make a tour that is different from the regular sponsor-designed tour, to attract surfers making them think it is a fresh site. With AVS, you simply protect a small area that you have put together yourself

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                  • u-Bob
                    there's no $$$ in porn
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 33063

                    #10
                    Originally posted by chadglni
                    You are comparing apples and bobsleds.

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                    • Blizzard
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 200

                      #11
                      Why not just start your own paysite? I first started with 4free type of sites and progressed to pay sites. Amazing the amounts of type in sales yet I never linked to the site without a tracking link. Makes you wonder how much these sponsors are making from type in sales and why they seriously enforce the "do not remove watermarks" rule.

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                      • Pornwolf
                        Drunk and Unruly
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 22712

                        #12
                        No, it i the same thing. Sure, some people do make a small site that they use te AVS script to protect and bil their surfers... but the vast majority of folks just build targeted front ends (with only the required amount of content inside) to send traffic to the AVS network and get paid.

                        There's no difference. There's a little more functinality available to the AVS maker but at the end of the day you are still building a front end for the overall program.

                        Actually, looking at the extreme rebills that AVS provides and the high payouts that sites like www.NetVerifier.com pays making the AVS sites makes more sense if you really want to buld something.

                        Ya still gotta send your own traffic to your site/tour either way.
                        I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                        Webair, bitches.

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                        • Hue G. Pness
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1237

                          #13
                          AVS used to be major bank. Mad ratios around 1:50.
                          GFY Voice of Reason

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                          • Claude
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 1036

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Hue G. Pness
                            AVS used to be major bank. Mad ratios around 1:50.
                            Still is

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                            • Semi-Retired-Dave
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 11190

                              #15
                              People Knock AVS's all the time, especially this board since its more of a TGP board. But its been over 10 years that I have been in the AVS biz and there are thousands of webmasters not knocking it, I promise you that.

                              Ratios have changed from the 1:50 but let me tell you, it's still pretty close.

                              People don't change, they rather pay 24.95 for a two year access to a network of over 100,000 sites then 24.95 for one site for one month.

                              It's not rocket science, it's been working for over a decade and I am proof of it because I see the daily sales on all three of our AVS's.

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                              and of course, 4 time CyberSocket Award Winner...
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                              • Tempest
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • May 2004
                                • 10217

                                #16
                                Frankly I think BYOT is just another idiotic way to milk some money out of the surfers while making them less and less likely to buy porn because they're afraid of being scammed... Think about it beyong the quick buck you might be making. All these BYOT "sites", have different names etc. but lead to the exact same backend. How many times will a surfer be tricked into signing up to the same site before they stop signing up to anything. Just another idiotic idea to get some quick bucks without any thought to the long term consequences.

                                At least with AVS/AEN you got a "real" site and then all the others.

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                                • Pornwolf
                                  Drunk and Unruly
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 22712

                                  #17
                                  Yeah, it does.


                                  Lemme borrow your Lamborghini next time I'm in town Dave. ;)
                                  I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                  Webair, bitches.

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                                  • shuki
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2004
                                    • 3070

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                    People Knock AVS's all the time, especially this board since its more of a TGP board. But its been over 10 years that I have been in the AVS biz and there are thousands of webmasters not knocking it, I promise you that.

                                    Ratios have changed from the 1:50 but let me tell you, it's still pretty close.

                                    People don't change, they rather pay 24.95 for a two year access to a network of over 100,000 sites then 24.95 for one site for one month.

                                    It's not rocket science, it's been working for over a decade and I am proof of it because I see the daily sales on all three of our AVS's.

                                    CyberAge.com
                                    CyberSexNetwork.com
                                    and of course, 4 time CyberSocket Award Winner...
                                    UGAS.com

                                    It works guys, It just works.

                                    AVS god
                                    Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

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                                    • shuki
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 3070

                                      #19
                                      I need to build some sites for your network soon
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                                      • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Apr 2004
                                        • 11190

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                        Yeah, it does.


                                        Lemme borrow your Lamborghini next time I'm in town Dave. ;)
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                                        • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Apr 2004
                                          • 11190

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by shuki
                                          AVS god
                                          Not sure about AVS god, but I may know a few things about AVS/AEN.
                                          Support a Good Cause

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                                          • PR_Dave
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 2792

                                            #22
                                            Check here:

                                            www.buildyourowntour.com

                                            We have both options. Sites you create that belong to a network and sites that are 100% stand alone paysites with their own .com's.

                                            PimpRoll does BYOT right!

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