TGP vs Bought Traffic - GoFuckYourself.com

MrChips · 03-03-2006, 10:59 AM

Hey all.

Ive been pondering this thought.

What if I got a gallery listing on thehun - and it made 5 sales. I would think thats ok as a benchmark of the quality of the gallery and the sponsor.
(No laughing please - I didnt say good or bad - merely "benchmark".)

Ok - so lets say the gallery was in the niche of "Big Tits" - and I purchased the same number of clicks I got from thehun - for niche traffic of "tits".

Does anyone know if I would expect to get a couple more sales from purchased niche TITS traffic - over say - thehun traffic.

Just thinking outloud - any comments appreciated.

Chips

Babaganoosh · 03-03-2006, 11:01 AM

If it worked like that there would be no such thing as a traffic seller.

MrChips · 03-03-2006, 11:04 AM

But surely then - if what you say is true - why would ANY tgp owner allow free gallery posts to their sites from webmasters.

I surmise that what you say is incorrect - no offense - may I offer the theory that infact the traffic seller would not have time to gain revenue from all his/her traffic in this manner - and instead makes the most of it via selling clicks instead?

Which also irradicates any risk of non-performing galleries due to guaranteed cash from the purchaser of clicks?

DamageX · 03-03-2006, 11:05 AM

With all other things being equal, you should *theoretically* expect better sales on the niche traffic.

However, that would be grossly oversimplifying things. Here are a number of factors you need to take into consideration: Hun doesn't skime/trade, thus his surfers will be more likely to trust an ad. Most sites you'd buy traffic from (perhaps as a mix through a broker) will skim pretty hard, thus making the traffic you get more frustrated and much less inclined to whipping out the plastic. Furthermore, the amount of sales would also depend on sponsor, tour quality, gallery layout, content used, etc., just to name a few. Not all traffic is created equal, as aren't all galleries. Some type of gallery will do better on the Hun, some will do better on niche traffic. To sum it all up, there's no easy way to analyze this, so a mere guesstimate would be the closest you'd come to any half-decent conclusion. My personal opinion, based on experience, would be that the one getting traffic from the Hun will outsell the one getting niche traffic. But don't take my word for it.

AmateurFlix · 03-03-2006, 11:06 AM

too many variables to consider really... keep in mind that purchased traffic, even niche traffic, usually comes from a large variety of sites. so even if you purchase niche big tit traffic you might be getting traffic from big tit milf, big tit teen, big tit babe, bbw, etc etc.

MrChips · 03-03-2006, 11:11 AM

Frig - I hadnt thought of half of that - cheers for that.

Back to the drawing board.

Babaganoosh · 03-03-2006, 11:15 AM

Chances are a TGP owner needs some submitted content to populate his site with porn. Without a sufficient amount of wank material, the TGP would have no traffic and therefore make no sales via the ads on their site.

You are right. Selling traffic is guaranteed income. Trying to sell something TO that traffic is a gamble. If the seller had traffic that actually converted on a regular basis, he either wouldn't want to sell it or would sell it at an appropriate price. The price of purchasing QUALITY traffic usually negates the income from sales.

MrChips · 03-03-2006, 11:20 AM

Interesting babaganoosh that a tgp owner would feel the need for submitters. Most sponsors have FHG's now - I collected about 50,000 recently and stuck them in my own DB - at the rate of just 67 galleries posted per day - that would suffice for the hun for two years of content.

I anticipate being able to collect around another 100,000 FHG urls under my own sign in within the next week or two.

Tricky business this.

Babaganoosh · 03-03-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MrChips

Interesting babaganoosh that a tgp owner would feel the need for submitters. Most sponsors have FHG's now - I collected about 50,000 recently and stuck them in my own DB - at the rate of just 67 galleries posted per day - that would suffice for the hun for two years of content.

I anticipate being able to collect around another 100,000 FHG urls under my own sign in within the next week or two.

Tricky business this.

FHGs are stale. Surfers see them a lot. Most don't convert. There are a few exceptions but for the most part FHGs are seriously, seriously overused and overrated.

MrChips · 03-03-2006, 12:18 PM

FHGs are stale.

Yeah - I guess so - but I still see a lot being used around the major tgps - and to get the best stuff - I just join the programs with galleries I like the look of - and there they are.

Then its a case of keeping on top of the updates.

I just get a sneaky feeling that the days of TGP submitters are numbered - which is of course a sad thing.

I'd like to do something about that - one day.

Adult-biz · 03-03-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

If it worked like that there would be no such thing as a traffic seller.

Using your argument, Google and Yahoo would use all their traffic for their own projects which we both know is nonsense.

The above is an extreme case obviously and the majority of bought traffic from brokers and networks cannot even begin to compete with the likes of such traffic as Google / Yahoo.

This statement is always mentioned... "if traffic was any good, brokers wouldn`t sell it" but nothing could be further from the truth.
Many times, brokers and providers just do not have the time to test all traffic particularly when you are selling several hundred thousand visitors a day. I myself send some traffic to programs but lack of time is not on your side when managing traffic effectively.

It`s also worth mentioning that traffic is used nowadays in so many ways. For example, people who purchase feeder traffic do so to build a general TGP. This is often blind traffic and obviously not recommended for tour pages etc.

Likewise you wouldn`t send targeted clicked search engine traffic to a gallery or TGP.

MrChips · 03-03-2006, 09:07 PM

Imagine it - Yahoo send all their www.yahoo.com hits to nastydollars.gallies/wlt1.htm

I'd say on a large lesbo scale the world would be a much nicer place to live in

ry0t · 03-03-2006, 09:15 PM

You need to have a lot of experience and skill to convert the traffic if you are marketing other peoples sites through their affiliate program. This is what you need to do to make money. If you own the adult site then paid spots are good because you keep those members. In my opinion I wont be buying any spots unless I own the adult website that Im trying to get members for. When marketing I use partner accounts. Some are paid and some have been built on a relationship I've had over the years with the webmaster of that site. Start making friends with people a little conversation can go a long way to help you get the spots you need and help them get the content they need to make sure future surfers bookmark their site.

Babaganoosh · 03-03-2006, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexus

Using your argument, Google and Yahoo would use all their traffic for their own projects which we both know is nonsense.

The above is an extreme case obviously and the majority of bought traffic from brokers and networks cannot even begin to compete with the likes of such traffic as Google / Yahoo.

This statement is always mentioned... "if traffic was any good, brokers wouldn`t sell it" but nothing could be further from the truth.
Many times, brokers and providers just do not have the time to test all traffic particularly when you are selling several hundred thousand visitors a day. I myself send some traffic to programs but lack of time is not on your side when managing traffic effectively.

It`s also worth mentioning that traffic is used nowadays in so many ways. For example, people who purchase feeder traffic do so to build a general TGP. This is often blind traffic and obviously not recommended for tour pages etc.

Likewise you wouldn`t send targeted clicked search engine traffic to a gallery or TGP.

Your post sounded pretty ridiculous until I noticed you sell traffic. Then it was just hilarious.

GTS Mark · 03-04-2006, 12:31 AM

BUY TRAFFIC!!!

DH

Walrus · 03-04-2006, 12:56 AM

Hey, Drinking. Thanks for posting that. Since blog traffic is 100% better than TGP I might give it a try. Hopefully all the blogs selling the traffic only get SE traffic along with the people they are trading with.

- Walrus

reyz007 · 03-04-2006, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

BUY TRAFFIC!!!

DH

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Adult-biz · 03-04-2006, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Your post sounded pretty ridiculous until I noticed you sell traffic. Then it was just hilarious.

Ignorance is a funny thing.

03-03-2006, 10:59 AM	#1
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	TGP vs Bought Traffic Hey all. Ive been pondering this thought. What if I got a gallery listing on thehun - and it made 5 sales. I would think thats ok as a benchmark of the quality of the gallery and the sponsor. (No laughing please - I didnt say good or bad - merely "benchmark".) Ok - so lets say the gallery was in the niche of "Big Tits" - and I purchased the same number of clicks I got from thehun - for niche traffic of "tits". Does anyone know if I would expect to get a couple more sales from purchased niche TITS traffic - over say - thehun traffic. Just thinking outloud - any comments appreciated. Chips

03-03-2006, 11:01 AM	#2
Babaganoosh ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: /home Posts: 15,841	If it worked like that there would be no such thing as a traffic seller. __________________ I like pie.

03-03-2006, 11:05 AM	#4
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	With all other things being equal, you should theoretically expect better sales on the niche traffic. However, that would be grossly oversimplifying things. Here are a number of factors you need to take into consideration: Hun doesn't skime/trade, thus his surfers will be more likely to trust an ad. Most sites you'd buy traffic from (perhaps as a mix through a broker) will skim pretty hard, thus making the traffic you get more frustrated and much less inclined to whipping out the plastic. Furthermore, the amount of sales would also depend on sponsor, tour quality, gallery layout, content used, etc., just to name a few. Not all traffic is created equal, as aren't all galleries. Some type of gallery will do better on the Hun, some will do better on niche traffic. To sum it all up, there's no easy way to analyze this, so a mere guesstimate would be the closest you'd come to any half-decent conclusion. My personal opinion, based on experience, would be that the one getting traffic from the Hun will outsell the one getting niche traffic. But don't take my word for it. __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

03-03-2006, 11:06 AM	#5
AmateurFlix Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 7,762	too many variables to consider really... keep in mind that purchased traffic, even niche traffic, usually comes from a large variety of sites. so even if you purchase niche big tit traffic you might be getting traffic from big tit milf, big tit teen, big tit babe, bbw, etc etc. __________________

03-03-2006, 11:15 AM	#7
Babaganoosh ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: /home Posts: 15,841	Chances are a TGP owner needs some submitted content to populate his site with porn. Without a sufficient amount of wank material, the TGP would have no traffic and therefore make no sales via the ads on their site. You are right. Selling traffic is guaranteed income. Trying to sell something TO that traffic is a gamble. If the seller had traffic that actually converted on a regular basis, he either wouldn't want to sell it or would sell it at an appropriate price. The price of purchasing QUALITY traffic usually negates the income from sales. __________________ I like pie.

03-03-2006, 11:04 AM	#3
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	But surely then - if what you say is true - why would ANY tgp owner allow free gallery posts to their sites from webmasters. I surmise that what you say is incorrect - no offense - may I offer the theory that infact the traffic seller would not have time to gain revenue from all his/her traffic in this manner - and instead makes the most of it via selling clicks instead? Which also irradicates any risk of non-performing galleries due to guaranteed cash from the purchaser of clicks?

03-03-2006, 11:11 AM	#6
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	Frig - I hadnt thought of half of that - cheers for that. Back to the drawing board.

03-03-2006, 11:20 AM	#8
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	Interesting babaganoosh that a tgp owner would feel the need for submitters. Most sponsors have FHG's now - I collected about 50,000 recently and stuck them in my own DB - at the rate of just 67 galleries posted per day - that would suffice for the hun for two years of content. I anticipate being able to collect around another 100,000 FHG urls under my own sign in within the next week or two. Tricky business this.

03-03-2006, 12:18 PM	#10
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	FHGs are stale. Yeah - I guess so - but I still see a lot being used around the major tgps - and to get the best stuff - I just join the programs with galleries I like the look of - and there they are. Then its a case of keeping on top of the updates. I just get a sneaky feeling that the days of TGP submitters are numbered - which is of course a sad thing. I'd like to do something about that - one day.

03-03-2006, 09:07 PM	#12
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	Imagine it - Yahoo send all their www.yahoo.com hits to nastydollars.gallies/wlt1.htm I'd say on a large lesbo scale the world would be a much nicer place to live in

03-03-2006, 09:15 PM	#13
ry0t So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 4,160	You need to have a lot of experience and skill to convert the traffic if you are marketing other peoples sites through their affiliate program. This is what you need to do to make money. If you own the adult site then paid spots are good because you keep those members. In my opinion I wont be buying any spots unless I own the adult website that Im trying to get members for. When marketing I use partner accounts. Some are paid and some have been built on a relationship I've had over the years with the webmaster of that site. Start making friends with people a little conversation can go a long way to help you get the spots you need and help them get the content they need to make sure future surfers bookmark their site.

03-04-2006, 12:31 AM	#15
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	BUY TRAFFIC!!! DH

03-04-2006, 12:56 AM	#16
Walrus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,150	Hey, Drinking. Thanks for posting that. Since blog traffic is 100% better than TGP I might give it a try. Hopefully all the blogs selling the traffic only get SE traffic along with the people they are trading with. - Walrus Last edited by Walrus; 03-04-2006 at 12:57 AM..