How long will your host keep your sites up with no payment? - GoFuckYourself.com

baddog · 02-24-2006, 04:34 PM

Just wondering, how long can you put off paying your bill before your host will suspend your service?

lagwagon · 02-24-2006, 04:37 PM

lmao just dont pay yours.

who · 02-24-2006, 04:38 PM

Mainstream host once let me go an entire month over. Adult host told me to fuck off after a few days.

Maybe there's a trend... or I need a new host for adult stuff..

who · 02-24-2006, 04:39 PM

Or maybe I need to pay my bills.

Tanker · 02-24-2006, 04:39 PM

It probably depends on how much you cost them a month by not paying!

Niklas · 02-24-2006, 05:02 PM

Probably also depends on how long you've been with them. Ive been with my host for a few years and have a good relationship with them so Im sure they would let my sites run even though I couldnt pay them right away.

chadglni · 02-24-2006, 05:04 PM

I unknowingly missed 2 months of payments on 2 different hosts when a c/c I never use was put on hold and neither of them cut me off. Had another host turn my shit off when it was 1 day past due date.

After Shock Media · 02-24-2006, 05:06 PM

I could go several months for small amounts I suppose if I asked my host. I know I have gone almost two months before and owing in the low five figure range. (couldnt get checks cashed and partner was very tied up)

I think the key thing is communication, honesty, track record, and trust.

baddog · 02-24-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I could go several months for small amounts I suppose if I asked my host. I know I have gone almost two months before and owing in the low five figure range. (couldnt get checks cashed and partner was very tied up)

I think the key thing is communication, honesty, track record, and trust.

Communication goes a long way. It is sad that FINAL NOTICE and actual suspension of service is the only way to get some people's attention.

mikeyddddd · 02-24-2006, 05:40 PM

I've been with my host for several years. I do not recall the exact details, either my credit card expired or I changed cards, but some info that had changed was entered incorrectly into their system so it was declined. It took about a month before it was straightened out.

jeffrey · 02-24-2006, 05:50 PM

I missed 2 months once when the cc on account expired. I didnt even know anything was wrong till a week after the second payment was due the host contacted me and asked if I would be able to update the info in time for the next bill. I felt bad and payed it right then. I think the fact that half my bill is payed by refferals helped too though.

SpeakEasy · 02-24-2006, 06:59 PM

First of all everyone should pay their hosting bills upon receipt. After 5% of the month which is like 36 hours into the month the host is on the hook for any bandwidth that you used, so if you don't pay by that time they are really extending you credit, and then add to this equation, data center, techs, etc... costs and you are really sticking it to them.

Basically I don't think any host should really allow anyone to not pay ontime. Of course their are and will be some exceptions to any rule like after shock media has stated.

SmokeyTheBear · 02-24-2006, 07:05 PM

Theres really only 2 possibilities.

A) They made a mistake and a bill got forgot ( it would be hosticide to shut a users account off because of this )
or
B) They are short on funds..

In either case i would notify them and tell them of the problem and to give an exact date they will pay their bill.. If they are late by even a minute. shutoff the account because they broke a personal contract.. By forgetting topay they broke a "technical contract" but those mistakes can happen , you can't break a personal contract by mistake.. ( unless you got hit by a bus )

czarina · 02-24-2006, 07:08 PM

30 days. But we have to have told them why. we actually had it happen once when we had a card stolen, and could not get the new numbers.

sigurman · 02-24-2006, 07:19 PM

I always pay on time...

necoeds · 02-24-2006, 07:20 PM

7 days for me.

chadglni · 02-24-2006, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeakEasy

First of all everyone should pay their hosting bills upon receipt. After 5% of the month which is like 36 hours into the month the host is on the hook for any bandwidth that you used, so if you don't pay by that time they are really extending you credit, and then add to this equation, data center, techs, etc... costs and you are really sticking it to them.

Basically I don't think any host should really allow anyone to not pay ontime. Of course their are and will be some exceptions to any rule like after shock media has stated.

I hate to break this too you noble one but business just doesn't work like that. If you decide not to work with people that pay on net 30, net 60, and everything in between you are shorting yourself a lot of business. I can't remember one B&M business I've ever been involved with where every bill got paid on the due date. Shit happens, and pretty much any company you don't pay is extending you credit. It's not like hosting is the only one with expenses and employees to worry about.

Biggy · 02-24-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by necoeds

7 days for me.

thats because you have a stellar record of non-payment.

fris · 02-24-2006, 09:33 PM

maybe it depends how good of a relationship you have with your host, how long you have been with them, your monthly costs, etc.

split_joel · 02-24-2006, 10:20 PM

We try to keep our clients up as long as possible depending on there attuides, we try to be understanding and caring of the situation. If you have a rough month or two and you come to us and are whilling to work out a payment plan or plan to make a payment plan or work off your debt no problem we wont shut you down, but there are those assholes who are just jerks and refuse to pay we shut them off within a month.

chaze · 02-24-2006, 10:27 PM

Hey baddog,

Our system is automated we email them 10 day before any bill and 3 days before until the date and if declined then we email then everyday for 10 days then if they don't contact us the system changes the site to a updating page...

Then we remove the site after 30-90 days from the past due amount.

If they contact us then the time we give past the 10 days days by default varies.

Brad Mitchell · 02-24-2006, 11:38 PM

I use my own judgement. How much slack I will give a client depends a lot on the history, relationship, reason and communication. I am quicker to cut off deadbeats now... as defined by recurring lateness and issues collecting. This is another reason why it's good to have full contact info. It's one thing to email someone or send an ICQ message, quite another to be leaving messages on their phone line. I'll let just about anyone go 30-60 days or more if we are communicating, 30 days or less if we're not. It's often just a judgement call where you find yourself weighing in what is your margain and what is the risk associated with your cost of continuing to provide service.

Good luck collecting!

Brad

blazin · 02-25-2006, 12:20 AM

Always pay my bills on time... though I recently lost my wallet and had to cancel all my cards.... my host isprime was more than happy to wait a few weeks till I had been issued with new cards so I could make a payment. I have never been late with a payment though in the 2-3 years I've been hosting with them.

sandman! · 02-25-2006, 12:24 AM

i have kept 1 persons server up for like 8 months without payment.

ffmihai · 02-25-2006, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

i have kept 1 persons server up for like 8 months without payment.

ouch thats a lot!

TheJimmy · 02-25-2006, 01:04 AM

With the one that I've been with for over 5 years, colo, with tons of resources on the box....they'll let me fly for a week+ as that has only happened once during a move...most hosts about 3-4 days grace period, tops...

xlogger · 02-25-2006, 01:05 AM

one week

baddog · 02-25-2006, 02:34 AM

It is funny that it is always the same people, and they never respond to the first 2 notices. Only when I say "you have 24 hours to contact me" do they reply. I extend credit very easily, just don't jack me around or lie to me.

I understand shit happens, but if you don't communicate . . . well . .

I did have to laugh when I came home and had a couple ICQ's from people that thought it was them I was talking about. It wasn't.

Hentaikid · 02-25-2006, 01:02 PM

Heh, webgemshosting suspended my account even though I had paid, they got confused and closed the account, shut down the sites.

When I informed them they wanted to keep billing me again

but that bird had flown, baby.

It was no big deal, just a bunch of unused sites, but since I wasn't using the account they just cancelled an easy rebill, not too clever.

Wiggles · 02-25-2006, 01:07 PM

i've seen some host that overpopulate vhosts totally forgetting you are a customer and never shutting down accounts.

baddog · 02-25-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiggles

i've seen some host that overpopulate vhosts totally forgetting you are a customer and never shutting down accounts.

They must be sharing IP's. We don't do that.

02-24-2006, 04:34 PM	#1
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	How long will your host keep your sites up with no payment? Just wondering, how long can you put off paying your bill before your host will suspend your service?

02-24-2006, 04:37 PM	#2
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02-24-2006, 05:02 PM	#6
Niklas Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 352	Probably also depends on how long you've been with them. Ive been with my host for a few years and have a good relationship with them so Im sure they would let my sites run even though I couldnt pay them right away. __________________ Need big boob traffic? Contact me I make money with JuggCash

02-24-2006, 05:04 PM	#7
chadglni Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: PEI, Canada Posts: 6,924	I unknowingly missed 2 months of payments on 2 different hosts when a c/c I never use was put on hold and neither of them cut me off. Had another host turn my shit off when it was 1 day past due date. __________________ Sign up here - Dating Site affiliate program

02-24-2006, 04:38 PM	#3
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	Mainstream host once let me go an entire month over. Adult host told me to fuck off after a few days. Maybe there's a trend... or I need a new host for adult stuff..

02-24-2006, 05:06 PM	#8
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	I could go several months for small amounts I suppose if I asked my host. I know I have gone almost two months before and owing in the low five figure range. (couldnt get checks cashed and partner was very tied up) I think the key thing is communication, honesty, track record, and trust. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

02-24-2006, 05:40 PM	#10
mikeyddddd Viva la vulva! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself Posts: 16,557	I've been with my host for several years. I do not recall the exact details, either my credit card expired or I changed cards, but some info that had changed was entered incorrectly into their system so it was declined. It took about a month before it was straightened out. __________________ AdultStarProfits AmbyaCash AnilosCash AzianiGold ColdHardCash FlashTheMoney IdolBucks MediumPimpin NSCash Nubiles PussyCash ScoreCash Sextronix SpunkyCash TubeTitans Twistys

02-24-2006, 05:50 PM	#11
jeffrey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 1,864	I missed 2 months once when the cc on account expired. I didnt even know anything was wrong till a week after the second payment was due the host contacted me and asked if I would be able to update the info in time for the next bill. I felt bad and payed it right then. I think the fact that half my bill is payed by refferals helped too though.

02-24-2006, 06:59 PM	#12
SpeakEasy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Internet Posts: 2,681	First of all everyone should pay their hosting bills upon receipt. After 5% of the month which is like 36 hours into the month the host is on the hook for any bandwidth that you used, so if you don't pay by that time they are really extending you credit, and then add to this equation, data center, techs, etc... costs and you are really sticking it to them. Basically I don't think any host should really allow anyone to not pay ontime. Of course their are and will be some exceptions to any rule like after shock media has stated.

02-24-2006, 07:05 PM	#13
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	Theres really only 2 possibilities. A) They made a mistake and a bill got forgot ( it would be hosticide to shut a users account off because of this ) or B) They are short on funds.. In either case i would notify them and tell them of the problem and to give an exact date they will pay their bill.. If they are late by even a minute. shutoff the account because they broke a personal contract.. By forgetting topay they broke a "technical contract" but those mistakes can happen , you can't break a personal contract by mistake.. ( unless you got hit by a bus ) __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

02-24-2006, 07:08 PM	#14
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	30 days. But we have to have told them why. we actually had it happen once when we had a card stolen, and could not get the new numbers.

02-24-2006, 07:19 PM	#15
sigurman Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: WWW Posts: 665	I always pay on time...

02-24-2006, 07:20 PM	#16
necoeds Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,453	7 days for me.

02-24-2006, 09:33 PM	#19
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	maybe it depends how good of a relationship you have with your host, how long you have been with them, your monthly costs, etc. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

02-24-2006, 10:20 PM	#20
split_joel Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,270	We try to keep our clients up as long as possible depending on there attuides, we try to be understanding and caring of the situation. If you have a rough month or two and you come to us and are whilling to work out a payment plan or plan to make a payment plan or work off your debt no problem we wont shut you down, but there are those assholes who are just jerks and refuse to pay we shut them off within a month. __________________ E-mail marketing - Automation Scripting - IP Space AIM: splitjoelp ICQ: 254759453 skype - splitjoelp 702-941-6465

02-24-2006, 10:27 PM	#21
chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	Hey baddog, Our system is automated we email them 10 day before any bill and 3 days before until the date and if declined then we email then everyday for 10 days then if they don't contact us the system changes the site to a updating page... Then we remove the site after 30-90 days from the past due amount. If they contact us then the time we give past the 10 days days by default varies.

02-24-2006, 11:38 PM	#22
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	I use my own judgement. How much slack I will give a client depends a lot on the history, relationship, reason and communication. I am quicker to cut off deadbeats now... as defined by recurring lateness and issues collecting. This is another reason why it's good to have full contact info. It's one thing to email someone or send an ICQ message, quite another to be leaving messages on their phone line. I'll let just about anyone go 30-60 days or more if we are communicating, 30 days or less if we're not. It's often just a judgement call where you find yourself weighing in what is your margain and what is the risk associated with your cost of continuing to provide service. Good luck collecting! Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

02-25-2006, 12:20 AM	#23
blazin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,781	Always pay my bills on time... though I recently lost my wallet and had to cancel all my cards.... my host isprime was more than happy to wait a few weeks till I had been issued with new cards so I could make a payment. I have never been late with a payment though in the 2-3 years I've been hosting with them. __________________ I don't endorse a god damn thing......

02-25-2006, 12:24 AM	#24
sandman! Icq: 14420613 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: chicago Posts: 15,432	i have kept 1 persons server up for like 8 months without payment. __________________ Need WebHosting ? Email me for some great deals [email protected]

02-25-2006, 01:04 AM	#26
TheJimmy ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0 Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,747	With the one that I've been with for over 5 years, colo, with tons of resources on the box....they'll let me fly for a week+ as that has only happened once during a move...most hosts about 3-4 days grace period, tops... __________________ Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

02-25-2006, 01:05 AM	#27
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02-25-2006, 02:34 AM	#28
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	It is funny that it is always the same people, and they never respond to the first 2 notices. Only when I say "you have 24 hours to contact me" do they reply. I extend credit very easily, just don't jack me around or lie to me. I understand shit happens, but if you don't communicate . . . well . . I did have to laugh when I came home and had a couple ICQ's from people that thought it was them I was talking about. It wasn't.

02-25-2006, 01:02 PM	#29
Hentaikid Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,249	Heh, webgemshosting suspended my account even though I had paid, they got confused and closed the account, shut down the sites. When I informed them they wanted to keep billing me again but that bird had flown, baby. It was no big deal, just a bunch of unused sites, but since I wasn't using the account they just cancelled an easy rebill, not too clever.

02-25-2006, 01:07 PM	#30
Wiggles Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 14,423	i've seen some host that overpopulate vhosts totally forgetting you are a customer and never shutting down accounts. __________________ no sig