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Evil Chris · 02-20-2006, 02:12 PM

I never heard of them until today.
How are their sites?

dissipate · 02-20-2006, 02:13 PM

Honestly theyre one of my favorite sponsors, if you can push them the right traffic it converts like crazy

02-20-2006, 02:14 PM

hot!!!!!!!!!

Relish XXX · 02-20-2006, 02:20 PM

It is a nwes group service with a web based front end.

TheGoldenChild · 02-20-2006, 02:36 PM

ANYwebcam.com loves GUBA.
Great program run by some great people.

Hentaikid · 02-20-2006, 02:38 PM

They don't have sites, they just offer an archive of content from usenet. p2p stuff. Great business model, no need to pay for content, ever!

KRosh · 02-20-2006, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris

I never heard of them until today.
How are their sites?

chris.. long time no speak

go to their site and see..they are not your average affiliate program

Mickey_ · 02-20-2006, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh

chris.. long time no speak

go to their site and see..they are not your average affiliate program

Hey Kourosh, hit me up when you have a minute.

Probono · 02-20-2006, 02:48 PM

Newsgroup content is often copyrighted, if they use that content and sell it they are not exactly clean.

JFK · 02-20-2006, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE

Hey Kourosh, hit me up when you have a minute.

burning the midnight oil??

Screaming · 02-20-2006, 02:50 PM

never heard of them either

RawAlex · 02-20-2006, 02:52 PM

GUBA is not a primary producer of Usenet content and is therefore exempt from the provisions of 18 U.S.C. hahaha167;2257

Newgroup reseller.

I don't suspect they have too many licenses for the content they sell access to, from what I can see.

Alex

Matt Collins · 02-20-2006, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hentaikid

They don't have sites, they just offer an archive of content from usenet. p2p stuff. Great business model, no need to pay for content, ever!

If this post is correct, then its all stolen content and no it's NOT a great business model.

"No need to ever pay for content" WTF, are you kidding me????

I hope this is not true as I can't imagine anyone building a business on such a shaky concept.

Matt

justsexxx · 02-20-2006, 02:56 PM

guba, sell memberships so your surfers can view stolen pics whoohoo

Spunky · 02-20-2006, 02:56 PM

Who is the old dude in the corner?

emmanuelle · 02-20-2006, 02:57 PM

Apparently selling easy access to stolen content is profitable

After Shock Media · 02-20-2006, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky

Who is the old dude in the corner?

I think they kidnapped him off of the six flags commercial production lot.

DamageX · 02-20-2006, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

guba, sell memberships so your surfers can view YOUR stolen pics whoohoo

Corrected for accuracy.

Forkbeard · 02-20-2006, 03:25 PM

Somebody's got to speak up for GUBA, since there seems to be a lot of hatred and misunderstanding going on. I guess I'm a good somebody to speak up, since GUBA sends me a huge check every two weeks.

Long story short: Don't believe all these folks who slam GUBA. The "stolen content" rap is total bullshit; in the niches I promote, the *vast* majority of the content in the newsgroups is actually put there by the content owners to drive traffic to their websites.

Remember, GUBA is just a friendly interface to the paleolithic part of the internet. Usenet newsgroups, the uncensorable built-to-survive-nuclear-war part. GUBA sells no content and thus is in no position to steal any. It's just an easy way to get at the newsgroups for folks who aren't techie wizards.

I've had dinner with GUBA's head lawyer, and I'll tell you what: they have the legal shit covered. There's nothing illegal in what they are doing; if there were, some of the rich loudmouths here on GFY would have already sued them back to the stone age.

Now for the good part: As an affiliate, GUBA is simply awesome to deal with. GUBA has been very very good to me. Their recurring billings are particularly sweet -- they recur at much higher percentages than anything else I've ever promoted. As for service, they are always johnny-on-the-spot for me by email or phone whenever I have a question or issue.

Quality folks to deal with, great conversions, and the best rebills I've ever encountered. What's not to like?

My advice: Ignore the haters, and give GUBA a try.

u-Bob · 02-20-2006, 03:26 PM

guba = thieves like imagecash, fusker,...

Probono · 02-20-2006, 03:29 PM

Folkbeard

We market on newgroups and GUBA has no license to resell our content. Therefore if they are reselling it they are violating our copyrights. I am not going to waste my time or money to pursue them but it is still not within the scope of legal.

Forkbeard · 02-20-2006, 03:33 PM

Of course my point is that they aren't reselling content.

Rolo · 02-20-2006, 04:05 PM

Much like ethics the law is based on "intent"... The Digital Millennium Copyright Act and the EU Copyright Directive could probably be used to go after GUBA like it was done when Napster was rulled illegal.

Lawyers will usual tell you the story they have been paid to tell, however judges are not ignorant people

SilentKnight · 02-20-2006, 04:51 PM

Evil Chris · 02-20-2006, 05:01 PM

hey that looks like my dog!

Kimo · 02-20-2006, 05:07 PM

guba bubba

RayBonga · 02-20-2006, 05:19 PM

please don't hit me

circlekhabib · 02-20-2006, 05:25 PM

" I am not going to waste my time or money to pursue them"
and that's why they will continue to be in business.
you can be part of the solution or part of the problem.
thanks for making the right choice.

Forkbeard · 02-20-2006, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Probono

Folkbeard

We market on newgroups and GUBA has no license to resell our content. Therefore if they are reselling it they are violating our copyrights.

And if they aren't reselling it, they aren't violating anything.

And they aren't. They are selling a freakin' interface tool.

Your beef is with the folks who post your stuff on UseNet. Why not focus your anger where it belongs?

PixeLs · 02-20-2006, 06:35 PM

Ok, cool down people. The old skin is back.

BV · 02-20-2006, 06:39 PM

Hentaikid · 02-20-2006, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Collins

"No need to ever pay for content" WTF, are you kidding me????

I hope this is not true as I can't imagine anyone building a business on such a shaky concept.

Matt

Heh, well I don't pay for my content either, I make it picture by picture. Makes me feel like a mug with all the "clever" people around who offer "interfaces" to stuff that's just "lying around"

VicD · 02-20-2006, 06:55 PM

Whuba? Wtf!

sniperwolf · 02-20-2006, 07:10 PM

whoa.. that was quick after tremendous GUBA threads...

Evil Chris · 02-20-2006, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

hahaha... good one.

02-20-2006, 02:12 PM	#1
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02-20-2006, 02:13 PM	#2
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02-20-2006, 02:38 PM	#6
Hentaikid Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,250	They don't have sites, they just offer an archive of content from usenet. p2p stuff. Great business model, no need to pay for content, ever!

02-20-2006, 02:48 PM	#9
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	Newsgroup content is often copyrighted, if they use that content and sell it they are not exactly clean.

02-20-2006, 02:52 PM	#12
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	GUBA is not a primary producer of Usenet content and is therefore exempt from the provisions of 18 U.S.C. hahaha167;2257 Newgroup reseller. I don't suspect they have too many licenses for the content they sell access to, from what I can see. Alex

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02-20-2006, 03:25 PM	#19
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	Somebody's got to speak up for GUBA, since there seems to be a lot of hatred and misunderstanding going on. I guess I'm a good somebody to speak up, since GUBA sends me a huge check every two weeks. Long story short: Don't believe all these folks who slam GUBA. The "stolen content" rap is total bullshit; in the niches I promote, the vast majority of the content in the newsgroups is actually put there by the content owners to drive traffic to their websites. Remember, GUBA is just a friendly interface to the paleolithic part of the internet. Usenet newsgroups, the uncensorable built-to-survive-nuclear-war part. GUBA sells no content and thus is in no position to steal any. It's just an easy way to get at the newsgroups for folks who aren't techie wizards. I've had dinner with GUBA's head lawyer, and I'll tell you what: they have the legal shit covered. There's nothing illegal in what they are doing; if there were, some of the rich loudmouths here on GFY would have already sued them back to the stone age. Now for the good part: As an affiliate, GUBA is simply awesome to deal with. GUBA has been very very good to me. Their recurring billings are particularly sweet -- they recur at much higher percentages than anything else I've ever promoted. As for service, they are always johnny-on-the-spot for me by email or phone whenever I have a question or issue. Quality folks to deal with, great conversions, and the best rebills I've ever encountered. What's not to like? My advice: Ignore the haters, and give GUBA a try. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

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02-20-2006, 03:29 PM	#21
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	Folkbeard We market on newgroups and GUBA has no license to resell our content. Therefore if they are reselling it they are violating our copyrights. I am not going to waste my time or money to pursue them but it is still not within the scope of legal.

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02-20-2006, 04:05 PM	#23
Rolo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 555	Much like ethics the law is based on "intent"... The Digital Millennium Copyright Act and the EU Copyright Directive could probably be used to go after GUBA like it was done when Napster was rulled illegal. Lawyers will usual tell you the story they have been paid to tell, however judges are not ignorant people __________________ Surfmastering : a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery

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