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Old 04-21-2002, 04:11 PM   #1
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:mad france is fucked up....

i'll move to another coutry

17% of voters voted for a fucking nazi who will now run for the second turn...

the only alternative we have now is the plague or the cholera..

right wing or nazi extremists.... for the first time of my life i will have to vote for the right wing...

then i'll move out to another country...

i'm ashamed to be french
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Old 04-21-2002, 04:13 PM   #2
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argh that sucks. fucking nazis should all the put in a gas chamber and fried over hell's fire afterwards.

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Old 04-21-2002, 04:15 PM   #3
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"i'm ashamed to be french"

... welcome to the club !
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Old 04-21-2002, 04:15 PM   #4
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you need only 17%?
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17% is fucked up.
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Old 04-21-2002, 04:37 PM   #6
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yeah 28.3% of brainless fuckers didn't bother to go vote and we had 16 candidates this is why 17% is enough for the nazis to run for second turn
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Old 04-21-2002, 04:49 PM   #7
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http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe...ion/index.html

"J'ai dit que les chambres à gaz étaient un POINT DE DETAIL
de l'histoire de la deuxieme guerre mondiale.
Je dénie que ces propos aient quelque caractère antisémite.
Je les maintiens.

JEAN-MARIE LEPEN (the nazi candidate)"

translation:
"I said that the gaz chambers were a detail in history of world war two
i deny that these words are antisemit and i maintain them"
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http://www.adl.org/international/LeP...roduction.html

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/lepen.htm

http://www.scarabee.com/EN/990817.html

http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/lepen.html

http://www.jewish.com/news/french0211.shtml

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people...n-marie//press

http://cci.wmin.ac.uk/jnet/samfin/lepen.html

if you want to know more about this dickhead
etc...etc...etc...
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Old 04-21-2002, 05:31 PM   #9
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Old 04-21-2002, 05:33 PM   #10
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lol thanks for making me laugh in such a situation
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that?s probably because there are so many muslim emigrants in france
people might be afraid that one day they'll start asking for more rights/'rights'
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Old 04-21-2002, 06:27 PM   #13
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no,
i think its just because french politicians are lame that 28% of assholes didn't do their citizen'z duty by going to vote...

they tend to forget that millions died for the right to vote and millions still do die to obtain this right...
its a shame
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Old 04-21-2002, 06:52 PM   #14
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they tend to forget that millions died for the right to vote and millions still do die to obtain this right...
its a shame

hehe, and none of them were french. When things get tough, the french have a hissy fit and run.
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Old 04-21-2002, 07:03 PM   #15
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lol

hey 12 dicks,
go back thru your history books a look what happened with french partizans....
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hey 12 dicks,
go back thru your history books a look what happened with french partizans....
let him also read some about WW1
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hey 12 dicks,
go back thru your history books a look what happened with french partizans....
"frrench partizans"
you mean the groups that the US armed but then the (I believe it was 2) factions were too busy fighting each other to fight the nazis? once the french knew the US was going to saved their asses, they were busy positioning themselves for post war "heroics"

where were those valliant Gaullist Armee Secrete and Communist Franc Tireurs et Partisans when it counted?

they were hiding.


oh, also. Do you guys know that in france a "right wing zealot" is someone who doesn't believe in socialism? hahahahaah
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Old 04-21-2002, 07:35 PM   #18
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I read these and.

Jesus A Christ shit fire and save match's...
The French are screwed big time if this guy gets in office..... Man O Man...

I remember when I was in the Army and the French got out of Nato and said Don't worry if the Russian's
decide to come across WE CAN STOP 'em.... HELLO

I played war against them and they were Useless not worth shit.. they couldn't stop Sweden if they tried... much less Russia
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I read these and.

Jesus A Christ shit fire and save match's...
The French are screwed big time if this guy gets in office..... Man O Man...

I remember when I was in the Army and the French got out of Nato and said Don't worry if the Russian's
decide to come across WE CAN STOP 'em.... HELLO

I played war against them and they were Useless not worth shit.. they couldn't stop Sweden if they tried... much less Russia

what do you expect from a country who has a hero called the "scarlet pimpernel"
hahahaha
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"frrench partizans"
you mean the groups that the US armed but then the (I believe it was 2) factions were too busy fighting each other to fight the nazis? once the french knew the US was going to saved their asses, they were busy positioning themselves for post war "heroics"

where were those valliant Gaullist Armee Secrete and Communist Franc Tireurs et Partisans when it counted?

they were hiding.


oh, also. Do you guys know that in france a "right wing zealot" is someone who doesn't believe in socialism? hahahahaah

i am with 12clicks on this one. france is probably the most proud nation in the world. yet, in WW2, it took the nazis less than 24 hours to take the entire country, and instead of resistance, what the french people oferred was a government of colaboration with the nazis (Vishi).

if it wasn't for the Brits and later the Americans - the proud french people would speak german today...

france is the world anti-semitic capital today. there are more anti-semitic violence in france today than there has been in pre WW2 Nazi Germany. this is BEFORE these elections, so don't give me this 28% didn't go to vote.

a nation that accepts and incourages hate for minorities should not be surprised that it turns Nazi.

stop being so naive. you had some revolutions in the past. i think it's time for another one. instead of being proud for proud-sake, make a revolution and be proud for a reason.

p.s.

your wine is quite good though. and your women (i mean, those who shave and take showers) are babes.

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Hey Sabai, Don't worry "Ils ne passeront pas!"
Right?
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that?s probably because there are so many muslim emigrants in france
people might be afraid that one day they'll start asking for more rights/'rights'
Don't you know that Napoleon is a moslem too?!
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some simple facts :

I don't vote for him. I don't like him.

But

le pen is not a nazi. It is completely stupid to say that.

The last nazi died in 1945.

Le pen is in the right wing like president bush.

He says French people first. he is not a racist. He want to protect french people like bush does with american people now.

His bodygards are black !

French Governement was on the left with communist and socialist until now. Can you believe a government with communist people ?

people hate that.

The real big problem in France now is insecurity and people vote for someone who will protect them.

This has nothing to do with racism.
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that?s probably because there are so many muslim emigrants in france
people might be afraid that one day they'll start asking for more rights/'rights'


Exactly


Unlike the Brits, at least the French have the balls to stand up and speak out.
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some simple facts :

Le Pen is not a nazi. It is completely stupid to say that....

His bodygards are black !

...This has nothing to do with racism.

Of course his body guards are black. Do you want a French Nazi to put WHITE people in the line of fire?!?!?!

I can tell you one thing: I am in favour of Le Pen. At least he says what he wants and what he means and who he is and what his agenda is. Unlike the socialists and the Trotzkis and the Communists, that for all the human right slogans they shout all day, have somehow managed to head the most anti-semitic and full-of-hate government in French history.

Way to go Le Pen. I am sure he will liberate France and the French people from having to hate behind closed doors. I think from now on the burning of Jewish temples will be legalized so you don't have to do it late at night any more.

At last someone who hates the Jews and the Muslims equally!
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Le Pen is a fascist, there is no doubt about that.
If he gets into office, it won't be Jews or Arabs who are going to suffer... it will be democracy. You can kiss the République Française goodbye.
There is a huge amount a variables that propelled this guy to the second round.
This man has used fear and hatred as his muscle for over 30 years. And lately the whole country has suffered a barrage of this so-called fear and hatred that has been fueled by the media and brought to light in a very badly run election by the politicians. Le Pen fested on it like a pig in shit and his electorate followed him to the urnes whereas the left wing and right wing were just as divided as ever and this time they shot themselves in the foot.
The turn out of voters was a record low. The French political class has a lot to be blamed for this. Especially the party programs that left the voters indifferent. The overall feeling yesterday was that it was going to be Chirac and Jospin in the second round whatever happened. Well, everyone sort of conveniently forgot Le Pen, thinking that he might do his percentage and then shut his trap for the next few months.
Everyone was wrong and unfortunately, we'll be hearing a lot from him in the next 2 weeks.
Whatever the turnout, I think the most justified thing said was from Dominique Stauss-Kahn:"The political class perhaps deserves what happened to it, but the French people don't deserve Jean-Marie Le Pen".
No shit!
On Sunday we, the French people, fucked up and hopefully May the 5th we won't decide to slide further into decadence and the end of our democracy.
VOILA TRUTH!!!
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hmmm i never heard of such a hero......
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hmmm i never heard of such a hero......
It is a musical. not sure what mister 12clicks meant with his hero comment.

http://www.thepimpernel.com/
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this must be cananadian its certainly not french...
like the french ticklers, french toast , french bread etc etc
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12clicks,

Couldn't you come up with a more recent example? ;-)

"Scarlet Pimpernel" was a 1793 revolutionist it looks like.
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some simple facts :

France is a democracy.

Lots of people are bad looser.

Election was between the right wing and the left wing as usual but a third one comes and eliminate one of the left wing.

France will always be a democracy even if Le pen wins.

Le pen is not a fascist. he will protect jewish and muslim place.

In france racist acts against jewish are made by muslim people.
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hey did you forget that french government sued yahoo for selling nazi collectibles and that its yahoo , an american company, that refused to take them down?...
i don't know what is the problem in the american newspapers but there are more nazis and right wing extremists or white supremacists in america (proportionally) than in the whole europe... so you would better clean in the front of your own door befor saying that the neighbour's door is dirty
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le pen is not a nazi. It is completely stupid to say that
man did you read the links i gave you?

if le pen is not a nazi why is he friend with a whole lot of former waffen ss officiers? why do he go to the fuhrer's birthday parties in germany every 20 of april and sing nazi songs with former "das reich colonels" why does he edit nazi songs on records...??

i could give you a thousand proofs that he is a nazi and white supremacist

you don't know shit about him.....instead of watching cnn you'd better open some newspapers
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Damiano, t'as voté toi?
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hey did you forget that french government sued yahoo for selling nazi collectibles and that its yahoo , an american company, that refused to take them down?...
i don't know what is the problem in the american newspapers but there are more nazis and right wing extremists or white supremacists in america (proportionally) than in the whole europe... so you would better clean in the front of your own door befor saying that the neighbour's door is dirty
i agree... but i think it was on yahoo.fr - not yahoo.com, which is why the french government intervened (but i am not sure).

having said that, for all the red-necks and KKKs in the US, do you know how many sinagogues are burnt each year in the US? do you know how many jews are being physically attacked in the US each year over being jews? and do you know how many in france? it is not the numbers of racists, it is what the population is willing to accept. in the US, the authorities and people will not accept that, not because they love jews, but because it makes the society weak. in france, physical attacks on jews and on sinagogues are a daily occurance which is not viewed as a terrible thing, because the victims are jews. this is a sign of a sick society, and le pen showing 20% support is just a symptom.
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Couldn't you come up with a more recent example? ;-)

"Scarlet Pimpernel" was a 1793 revolutionist it looks like.
no.
one hero every 3 hundred years is about all they can muster.
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what the fuck is wrong with Jews? they don't sell drugs and they don't multiply like rabbits

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your wine is quite good though. and your women (i mean, those who shave and take showers) are babes.
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BTW 12clicks, who was the great American hero?
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Sorry, I meant the last great Amercian hero?
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Socialist around the world are becoming Endangered Species ,
which is not that bad...
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Old 04-22-2002, 07:40 AM   #47
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Hey Sabai
if the immigrants didnt commit so many crimes in france
this would never happend
do you think people will accept this "imported" crime
forever ??
the french people tries to help refuges and the thanks
they get is robbery and violence back
now they said STOP . NO MORE
and denmark did the same
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Old 04-22-2002, 07:55 AM   #48
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I don't understand why this is such a big deal. If 17% had voted for a communist party nobody would care. Afterall it is a democracy and people have the right to vote for whatever party they want.

Besides that, if there is everything right with france, people wouldn't vote for a right wing man/party, so try to check what problems in france have caused that so many people voted for le pen.

Btw., many of those that voted for jospin will vote for chirac on may 5th and everything will be fine again.
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Old 04-22-2002, 08:00 AM   #49
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Btw., many of those that voted for jospin will vote for chirac on may 5th and everything will be fine again.
Let's just wait and see...
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Old 04-22-2002, 09:57 AM   #50
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Sorry, I meant the last great Amercian hero?
the guys that overpowered the towel heads heading for DC and crashed the plane in PA.

do they count?
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